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[Alucard]

So, what was Jacob's end game? What "only ends once"?

My assumption is that Jacob was actually trying to help MiB get off the island by finding a suitable replacement for himself, so he could move on with his life as well. MiB said that it always ends the same, meaning that humans are simply greedy and awful beings, incapable of guarding the world's biggest secret honestly.

Or...not? I don't know, man. Can someone help me out as to what game Jacob was actually playing and how Oceanic 815 fit into it? My brain is just overloaded right now.

 

[CrankyJay]

I know its a tv show but thats what im going to take with me, this guy let go and gave everything to help out his friends and protect people, and he died alone

I wouldn't think of it like that. He ultimately got rewarded.

 

[Baby Milo]

Definitely racism.

Ben gets a pass for killing everyone on the island and Sayid who knows how many people he has killed. Mike pops two people and bam hell for you bro

 

[YoungHav]

:lol thanks

 

[Mr Cola]

Nah, it's a happy ending, IMO (or at the very least bittersweet).

He died for his friends, for the world. He basically fixed the fuck out of everything :lol .

He didn't die alone btw, Vincent was chilling with him!



And though he didn't know it at the time (I think), he did get to see his friends again.

I just watched him wake up and walk through the jungle again after he plugged the hole, so weak and helpless. God damn this shouldnt affect me much but it does, i mean i love it, i really love the conclusion, its just a bit like Locke dying, it just kind of fucking sucks but it had to happen despite that its good tv. I hope im explaining myself well enough. The final scene where he sees the plane go by is beautiful though.

 

[mightynine]

nope nor did they explain the webisode of Christian telling Vincent to wake up his son after the original crash, since he has work to do (which was canon)

I like to think he walked right out of that church, onto the island, got Vincent's attention, and therefore caused the whole ball to get rolling.

A nice little loop.

 

[TrAcEr_x90]

I could have sworn DARLTON said somewhere that Walt would be in the finale?

 

[hamchan]

So I assume everyone is going to heaven...and Ben is going to hell?! That would really suck for him

I quite like the finale though I'm a bit uncomfortable with the religious stuff near the end. Also they didn't answer a lot of stuff but that doesn't bother me so much.

 

[Dragon]

Man you suck at this.

Well yes, I don't have the capacity to be a complete twat like you do. I'll have to let go I guess.

 

[Desiato]

I just saw the finale, and I am really pleased with how it ended. It's expected to see backlash, but I'm actually surprised to see it's such a small amount.

I'm happy with the answers we eventually got, even if some of it is vague. The most important issues have been dealt with (except for the Hurley bird, what the fuck was that????), and at least character wise to show couldn't really have rounded up any better.

I'm happy it concluded like this, but I'm also sad this show is over. Can't wait to do a Lost marathon over the summer. It'll be like watching an entirely different show knowing what we know now.

 

[infinityBCRT]

So, how would you give a Cliff's Notes to someone who would want LOST quickly summed up?

-Plane crashes on an island
-Strangers who mostly suck at life have to work together to survive
-Strangers come into contact with stranger inhabitants
-Strangers develop friendships and feel the island is important to their lives
-Polar bears
-Strangers discover themselves and their purposes on the island
-Time travel, good and evil
-Strangers die but realize the island was the most important part of their lives after death
-Strangers remember who they were in life, and their time on the island
-Hugs and tears

Wait...how did Jacob know that flight 815 was going to crash on the island? Because it's ALWAYS happened and there were other Jacks, Kates, Sawyers, etc. before the ones we see now?

I'd say if you want a Cliff's Notes version you might as well not bother. You have to jump in with both feet forward.

Part of the magic of Lost is not just what happens, but what you think happened and your journey along with the journey of the characters. A Cliff's Notes version would just amount to some dumb fairy tale.

 

[Plywood]

Ben gets a pass for killing everyone on the island and Sayid who knows how many people he has killed. Mike pops two people and bam hell for you bro

He killed Libby, okay. Future Jacob-Hurley does not forgive, does not forget.

 

[Mr Cola]

I wouldn't think of it like that. He ultimately got rewarded.

I know, noble sacrifices have always hit me some, so well acted on his part too, makes you believe in the character that this could actually have happened.

 

[John Harker]

Ratings were like 13.5MM. Sad.

 

[Byakuya769]

Well yes, I don't have the capacity to be a complete twat like you do. I'll have to let go I guess.

People still use that word?

 

[Alucard]

I could have sworn DARLTON said somewhere that Walt would be in the finale?

What? You missed the one second flashback?

J/k. Apparently, we're going to get Walt's arc on the DVD.

 

[Interfectum]

So I assume everyone is going to heaven...and Ben is going to hell?! That would really suck for him

I was under the assumption that Ben was going to stick around in the "flash sideways" until his daughter came around.

 

[Acosta]

Just woke up, are people still misinterpreting this shit like crazy?

No misinterpretation, but is still shit for many of us, you better stop getting offended by it.

 

[criesofthepast]

You know the saddest thing about LOST ending?

Vincent (Madison) is out of a job:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1807667/

I eagerly anticipate His/Her next project.

 

[infinityBCRT]

Ratings were like 13.5MM. Sad.

With the length/timing it doesn't surprise me. Many people will catch up via DVR/download/DVD

 

[Alucard]

Ratings were like 13.5MM. Sad.

So, where does it rank in the "most watched finales" list?

 

[Dragon]

People still use that word?

Dude! Someone just found a mole on Jack's arm on the island that wasn't there in the flash sideways. Holy shit. Lost sucks!

 

[gdt]

So I assume everyone is going to heaven...and Ben is going to hell?! That would really suck for him

I quite like the finale though I'm a bit uncomfortable with the religious stuff near the end. Also they didn't answer a lot of stuff but that doesn't bother me so much.

No, he's staying in LA X for now. I'm guessing he still feels terrible about everything he did, plus he wants to spend more time with Alex/Rouousasousos

I could have sworn DARLTON said somewhere that Walt would be in the finale?

I heard that too. Either they lied, or they had to cut it or something.....

I think they lied, just to throw people off. If Walt was gonna be anywhere, it was gonna be the Church scene. And they can't just photoshop him out of that :lol .

 

[RichardAM]

Walt/MDK spoilers (yes, really):

Spoiler

Malcolm David Kelley was seen on the set used for the Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute (http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/04/new-season-6-finale-set-pics-april-15th.html ), and was believed to be filming scenes for the finale as Walt. Ben was also seen in these images at the same set. There was also a filming report photo of a Santa Rosa MHI van ( http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/04/new-set-photos-april-17th.html). And also in this report ( http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2010/04/latest-from-ryan-podcast-april-18th.html), Walt was described as filming a scene with Ben, Richard Alpert, a receptionist and another teacher. However, none of this was seen, so it's possible that it either will be a deleted scene, or that what Kelley filmed might be something that will appear on the DVDs/Blu Rays as one of the rumored 20 minutes of scenes that will explain mysteries not addressed in the actual episode.

http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19307

 

[thekad]

Or...not? I don't know, man. Can someone help me out as to what game Jacob was actually playing and how Oceanic 815 fit into it? My brain is just overloaded right now.

Find a replacement to protect the island...

 

[CrankyJay]

I hugged my yellow lab after the Vincent/Jack scene.

 

[water_wendi]

Ben gets a pass for killing everyone on the island and Sayid who knows how many people he has killed. Mike pops two people and bam hell for you bro

Thats right. The writers of Lost are saying that if a white man like Sayid kills its ok but if a black man like Michael does, even in the defense of his son, its a bad thing.

 

[YoungHav]

So, what was Jacob's end game? What "only ends once"?

My assumption is that Jacob was actually trying to help MiB get off the island by finding a suitable replacement for himself, so he could move on with his life as well. MiB said that it always ends the same, meaning that humans are simply greedy and awful beings, incapable of guarding the world's biggest secret honestly.

Or...not? I don't know, man. Can someone help me out as to what game Jacob was actually playing and how Oceanic 815 fit into it? My brain is just overloaded right now.

This conversation made sense to me in the context of season 5. I figured that Jacob and MIB were time travelers in a time loop and that MIB never figured how to kill Jacob even though they experienced Lost seasons 1-5 for the past XXXXX amount of yrs.

 

[Hari Seldon]

did anyone think of the film Troy as soon as jack jumped towards locke in that fight haha

Actually Sat night I watched Men Who Stare at Goats and there is a hilarious scene that talks about the flying punch. :lol

 

[Dragon]

Thats right. The writers of Lost are saying that if a white man like Sayid kills its ok but if a black man like Michael does, even in the defense of his son, its a bad thing.

Black smoke = bad

 

[Byakuya769]

Dude! Someone just found a mole on Jack's arm on the island that wasn't there in the flash sideways. Holy shit. Lost sucks!

Interesting, you fail to address what was in my previous post and continue to do that which you accused me of doing...

 

[YoungHav]

Thats right. The writers of Lost are saying that if a white man like Sayid kills its ok but if a black man like Michael does, even in the defense of his son, its a bad thing.

Here's the big twist! We find out Sayid is a black man with a jheri curl... LOST

 

[Alucard]

Found a "most watched finales" list. LOST isn't even close to the top 10.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/05/15/most-watched-tv-finales/

MASH just DESTROYS everything.

 

[Ferrio]

I like to think he walked right out of that church, onto the island, got Vincent's attention, and therefore caused the whole ball to get rolling.

A nice little loop.

That's actually a neat thought.

 

[gdt]

So, where does it rank in the "most watched finales" list?

Nowhere near the top.

 

[McBacon]

Fucking amazing. That's all.

 

[KevinCow]

I love the way he draws Ben. :lol

 

[water_wendi]

Black smoke = bad

Yellow light = good

 

[Catalix]

I feel like I've been Gainax'ed.

feels good man

 

[NimbusD]

I could have sworn DARLTON said somewhere that Walt would be in the finale?

They did say that during the TimesTalk. Fucking liars. (background cameo somewhere?)

 

[Dragon]

Interesting, you fail to address what was in my previous post and continue to do that which you accused me of doing...

I realized after arguing with you that you're way more concerned with being right than actually having a discussion. So being a complete dick to you is deserving I think

Yellow light = good

Yellow = the sun, life sustaining
Black = the unknown

I actually feel bad for the MIB, all he wanted to do originally was experience life outside of Robinson Crusoe.

 

[ZeoVGM]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Baby Milo]

Thats right. The writers of Lost are saying that if a white man like Sayid kills its ok but if a black man like Michael does, even in the defense of his son, its a bad thing.

i was joking about the racism part but why wasn't michael there considering the characters they let in?

 

[Freyjadour]

Rewatching the Ben and Hurley scenes. Other than Jack, I think Ben had the most amazing ending of any of the characters. Especially so for being written in because Michael Emerson was so amazing.

I've always liked Ben, but he was never a favorite throughout all the seasons. Locke, Jack, Desmond, but never Ben. Now I think that he's probably tied with Jack for #1. Fantastic character and fantastic actor. I look forward to anything Emerson touches.

 

[Byakuya769]

I realized after arguing with you that you're way more concerned with being right than actually having a discussion. So being a complete dick to you is deserving I think

so I'll mark you down for - "does not understand that of which he speaks"

Spoiler

and will read this sentence over several times

good job man.

 

[dsister44]

ok, I never thought i'd say this but that beat scrubs as best finale of all time.



Vincent came back and was there at the very end

Richard was alive despite what everyone was saying


GODAMM LAPIDUS CAME BACK!


i'm glad the fans arn't writer, or we;d be getting a finale showing the Egyptians build a statue, the molecualar structure of the light in the island and a scene where people shoot at other people in an outrigger

 

[LCfiner]

I realized after arguing with you that you're way more concerned with being right than actually having a discussion. So being a complete dick to you is deserving I think

um… aren’t most arguments based on people saying what they think is right?

there’s nothing wrong with that as long as they back up how they feel

ok, I never thought i'd say this but that beat scrubs as best finale of all time.

whoa whoa whoa. let’s not set that bar up too high now, shall we?


..seriously? scrubs?

of all time?

 

[Lonestar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXcxctR3gVs

Probably already posted, but the Last Lost Untangled. Another catchy song.

 

[Alucard]

This conversation made sense to me in the context of season 5. I figured that Jacob and MIB were time travelers in a time loop and that MIB never figured how to kill Jacob even though they experienced Lost seasons 1-5 for the past XXXXX amount of yrs.

Yeah, but what did they need to happen in order for the loop to end and for them to get off the island? MiB has always been obsessed with leaving the island, and...ugh, I can't even muster up the brain power to try and make sense of the time travel story again and how it still fits into the story after season 6 and the relationships/motivations of MiB and Jacob.

 

[Van Owen]

i was joking about the racism part but why wasn't michael there considering the characters they let in?

I don't think it's impossible that Michael might find redemption and be able to leave the island. He just wasn't with the group we saw.