LOST 06.17/18/18.5: "The End" (Everything Else Was Just Progress)

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InaudibleWhispa said:
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Seriously, I need this!
Why isn't it available for pre-order on amazon.co.uk yet? :(
If that set ends up being America only there will be hell to pay.
 
Hopefully those disc images are just a temporary thing. I'd hate to have a boxset with different themed disc images for every season :|
 
rhfb said:
Hopefully those disc images are just a temporary thing. I'd hate to have a boxset with different themed disc images for every season :|

Really? I dig that.

Those discs are the same as the regular sets, btw.
 
I just read a theory, and the guy was complaining about answers(suprise, suprise!) and i came across this part:

"instead of the FSW, they could have retold pivotal stories from season one through five only this time from the point of view of Jacob and the man in black. How awesome would that have been?"

Yeah this sounds dandy and interesting but this show is about these characters we have been watching through 5 seasons and I think if they took that away there would be ALOT of uproar on the level of Across the sea, if not more.

Some people want a documentary on the islands history and dont want to look at the big picture of what the show is really about, i think.
 
gdt5016 said:
Really? I dig that.

Those discs are the same as the regular sets, btw.
I'd just prefer something unique and consistent across every disc, and not just the regular discs thrown into a fancy box.
 
Drealmcc0y said:
I just read a theory, and the guy was complaining about answers(suprise, suprise!) and i came across this part:

"instead of the FSW, they could have retold pivotal stories from season one through five only this time from the point of view of Jacob and the man in black. How awesome would that have been?"

Yeah this sounds dandy and interesting but this show is about these characters we have been watching through 5 seasons and I think if they took that away there would be ALOT of uproar on the level of Across the sea, if not more.

Some people want a documentary on the islands history and dont want to look at the big picture of what the show is really about, i think.

That sounds fucking terrible.
 
Just watched the last episode yesterday because 'twas decided to watch it with a group and we couldn't get together untill yesterday.

I dunno, I really liked everything that happened on the island, but thought the dialogue between Christian and Jack was borderline corny. The people coming together at the church felt kinda.. incomplete. I was completely expecting an epic audience with everybody ever on the island attending. Guess that'd be a bit too ambitious.

Dunno what to think of the ending yet, I guess.
 
The Lost adventure game pics just make me sad, because:

a) we basically never get those types of games anymore except the Sam & Max games out of Telltale, and

b) we really need a GOOD Lost adventure game, goddammit. You've got a great setting, great characters, and a nice piece of myth. Most of the background work is already done, and it would make for a fantastic adventure game. They can use the same setting and just give us a completely different storyline, like Via Domus did, except not completely suck as a game in the process. And if you can't get the original actors to do the voices, then at least get people who sound even vaguely like them (Locke in Via Domus... wtf, shit was nightmarish).
 
YoungHav said:
Lost is Shawn Michaels, 24 is Marty Jannetty. Breaking Bad and The Wire are Hall and Nash.

Granted, I haven't watched wrestling since about 1998, but unless something drastically changed after that, you do realize that you just said LOST > BB/TW > 24, right?
 
fna84 said:
How did the Dharma supplies get to the island in the earlier seasons?

They never explain it, but the the characters that had the means and motive to do so were Widmore and Eloise. Thanks to Faraday's notebook they knew about Desmond and how important he would be, so it was in their interest to maintain the swan station after Dharma failed so it would be there when Desmond arrived.

Considering Widmore could convincingly fake the crash of Oceanic 815, it wouldn't be too hard for him to put a bunch of supplies into fake Dharma boxes and then hand them over to Eloise to deliver them to the island.
 
LOST 2 - a completely new show intended for us that demand answers. starts from ancient times, when a Mesopotamian ship first arrives.

i might make it myself in flash, and post it online.
 
gdt5016 said:
But there's nothing to decipher. Christian literally spelled out the entire ending.

Everything that's ever happened on the show=real

Flashsideways="purgatory" for the Losties.


So all the island stuff happened for real?? well he did say that, but when jack managed to put back the corck in the cave, he suddently awakes outside for example......its probably the effect of trying to tie the last 5/6 seasons to everything....
 
:lol @ them not explaining the Egyptian connection in the show but still using hieroglyphics for the box set.

can someone up the "Desmond in the electromagnetic cabin" gif?
 
Maxrunner said:
So all the island stuff happened for real?? well he did say that, but when jack managed to put back the corck in the cave, he suddently awakes outside for example......its probably the effect of trying to tie the last 5/6 seasons to everything....

That's just how it works. Turning the wheel spits you out in Tunisia. Messing around with the cork spits you out outside the cave (unless you're Desmond).
 
YoungHav said:
:lol @ them not explaining the Egyptian connection in the show but still using hieroglyphics for the box set.

Egyptian connection?

What is there too connect, a group of egyptians were either brought to the island many years ago by Jacob or crashed on the island even before that.

They created a civilization here and made statues and temples and wrote hieroglyphics all over the place, because thats what egyptians do.
 
Invisible Peanut Butter is a nice touch.

"Tell me again why you call everyone 'brother'" sounds like something LEC would put in.

His reply would be, "I don't know what you talking about, brother"
 
From the flashsideways...http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Dr._Linus_transcript

BEN: And the worst of it is, as I look out at those ingrates that I'm tasked with watching, I can't help thinking that maybe I'm more a loser than any of them.

ROGER: This isn't the life I wanted for you, Ben. I wanted so much more.

BEN: I know.

ROGER: That's why I signed up for that damn Dharma Initiative and took you to the island, and... they were decent people. Smarter than I'll ever be. Imagine how different our lives would have been if we'd stayed.

BEN: Yes, we'd have both lived happily ever after...

ROGER: No, I'm serious, Ben! Who knows what you would have become?

So Ben had some kind of remembrance of the island in the sideways.
 
Drealmcc0y said:
Egyptian connection?

What is there too connect, a group of egyptians were either brought to the island many years ago by Jacob or crashed on the island even before that.

They created a civilization here and made statues and temples and wrote hieroglyphics all over the place, because thats what egyptians do.

I think the point is that it turned out to be yet another red herring and completely unimportant in the show. :P
 
if you had to pick one favorite theme, which one would it be?

i'd go with ''hollywood & vines.'' no doubt. it just makes me wanna climb mountains and go on this badass adventure and shit. one of my favorite themes of all time. i only wish it was longer.

there was a different version of it in the finale. does anyone know it's called?
 
jett said:
I think the point is that it turned out to be yet another red herring and completely unimportant in the show. :P

Unimportant to the narrative, yes. It's not really a red herring in the sense that it just peeled back the layers on the the history of The Island a bit.
 
jett said:
I think the point is that it turned out to be yet another red herring and completely unimportant in the show. :P
I think Lost fans are the problem. Within the context of the show all that stuff really did was show us people had been on the island forever. But fans were making up wild theories of how it all ties in.
 
Drealmcc0y said:
You thought a fucking statue was somehow a key to the endgame? :lol

It's not just a "fucking statue", the entire show is drenched in Egyptian imagery. Clearly it seemed like it would all be a bigger deal than it turned out to be.

I also suggest you take a look at GAF's TOS.
 
Drealmcc0y said:
Egyptian connection?

What is there too connect, a group of egyptians were either brought to the island many years ago by Jacob or crashed on the island even before that.

They created a civilization here and made statues and temples and wrote hieroglyphics all over the place, because thats what egyptians do.

what's up with all you, not knowing history, i heard this several times on this thread:

Jacob and MiB are about 0BC/AD old, and in that time, so no - they couldnt bring ancient Egyptians to the island.

in 330 BC Alexander the great owned Egypt, and , in 30 BC, Rome declared Egypt as it's province.

so, around the time when brothers were ruling the island, there were no powerful Egyptians, that preserved the culture in order to build all of the fancy stuff on the island.

Great statues in Egypt were built 2000 years BC, a total of 4000 years from today. (if you really believe that Egyptians built them, using Fibonacci sequence, number Pi, golden ratio, and helicopters, obviously)

so - Egypt in lost predates the Brothers. hope that's cleared now (unless the island popped back in time on multiple occasions)
 
Ok, so Egyptians built the Statue. So what?

It's unimportant to the narrative, but there to show a part of the history of The Island.

Egyptians and their statues in no way would, or could, ever affect our Losties.
 
look i love the mythology of the island and the history of it interests me too.

but finding out the history of a bunch of egyptians is not the show, its about another group of survivors
 
bud said:
if you had to pick one favorite theme, which one would it be?

i'd go with ''hollywood & vines.'' no doubt. it just makes me wanna climb mountains and go on this badass adventure and shit. one of my favorite themes of all time. i only wish it was longer.

there was a different version of it in the finale. does anyone know it's called?

Its still Hollywood and Vines, just a new arrangement. Giacchino actually wrote a lot less themes than you'd actually think for the show, but he rearranged them so many times in so many cool ways. Theres No Place Like Home alone has about 6 variations.
 
Solo said:
Its still Hollywood and Vines, just a new arrangement. Giacchino actually wrote a lot less themes than you'd actually think for the show, but he rearranged them so many times in so many cool ways. Theres No Place Like Home alone has about 6 variations.
Inverted TNPLH for when they got off the plane in LA X was pretty dope.
 
Igoritza said:
what's up with all you, not knowing history, i heard this several times on this thread:

Jacob and MiB are about 0BC/AD old, and in that time, so no - they couldnt bring ancient Egyptians to the island.

in 330 BC Alexander the great owned Egypt, and , in 30 BC, Rome declared Egypt as it's province.

so, around the time when brothers were ruling the island, there were no powerful Egyptians, that preserved the culture in order to build all of the fancy stuff on the island.

Great statues in Egypt were built 2000 years BC, a total of 4000 years from today. (if you really believe that Egyptians built them, using Fibonacci sequence, number Pi, golden ratio, and helicopters, obviously)

so - Egypt in lost predates the Brothers. hope that's cleared now (unless the island popped back in time on multiple occasions)

The fact of the matter is that the donkey wheel room has hieroglyphics that weren't there at the time of Across the Sea...because well the room didn't exist then. I guess Darlton got their Egyptian shit wrong.

Like gdt said it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
Igoritza said:
what's up with all you, not knowing history, i heard this several times on this thread:

Jacob and MiB are about 0BC/AD old, and in that time, so no - they couldnt bring ancient Egyptians to the island.

in 330 BC Alexander the great owned Egypt, and , in 30 BC, Rome declared Egypt as it's province.

so, around the time when brothers were ruling the island, there were no powerful Egyptians, that preserved the culture in order to build all of the fancy stuff on the island.

Great statues in Egypt were built 2000 years BC, a total of 4000 years from today. (if you really believe that Egyptians built them, using Fibonacci sequence, number Pi, golden ratio, and helicopters, obviously)

so - Egypt in lost predates the Brothers. hope that's cleared now (unless the island popped back in time on multiple occasions)

Well "Mother" said she crashed on the island too, so its not just people getting brought to the island by Jacob, its been happening for 1000s if not 100,000s of years. Other "games" could have happened before all this Jacob/MiB stuff. Its perhaps an endless cycle
 
Igoritza said:
what's up with all you, not knowing history, i heard this several times on this thread:

Jacob and MiB are about 0BC/AD old, and in that time, so no - they couldnt bring ancient Egyptians to the island.

in 330 BC Alexander the great owned Egypt, and , in 30 BC, Rome declared Egypt as it's province.

so, around the time when brothers were ruling the island, there were no powerful Egyptians, that preserved the culture in order to build all of the fancy stuff on the island.

Great statues in Egypt were built 2000 years BC, a total of 4000 years from today. (if you really believe that Egyptians built them, using Fibonacci sequence, number Pi, golden ratio, and helicopters, obviously)

so - Egypt in lost predates the Brothers. hope that's cleared now (unless the island popped back in time on multiple occasions)
Except that the hieroglyphs above the wheel invalidate that and thus the egyptians could only have arrived in the Island after Jacob and MIB's time(because MIB built the wheel).
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Egyptian Statues = plane wreckage during the credits. Just another footprint to show a civilization had come and gone there.

I would like to think one day another group of people come to the island and find the wreckage of 815 and it would be as big a mindfuck to them as finding the Black Rock was to us :D
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Inverted TNPLH for when they got off the plane in LA X was pretty dope.

The 3 best versions of it are thus:
- Of Mice and Ben
- OG Theres No Place Like Home
- the creepy ass version he used twice this season (Everybody Loves Hugo and The Last Recruit, I think? It was used when Jack and Co finally enter MIB's camp at night, at the end of an episode. Where MIB and Jack have a stare off).
 
The Egyptian stuff serves a few purposes:

1. to add more diversity to the structures and scenery of the locations
2. to show that the Egyptians "left their mark" on the island
3. to illustrate how far back the history of the island goes

but most importantly:

4. to fuck with you
 
brandonh83 said:
The Egyptian stuff serves a few purposes:

1. to add more diversity to the structures and scenery of the locations
2. to show that the Egyptians "left their mark" on the island
3. to illustrate how far back the history of the island goes

but most importantly:

4. to fuck with you
5. Bingo!
 
Drealmcc0y said:
I would like to think one day another group of people come to the island and find the wreckage of 815 and it would be as big a mindfuck to them as finding the Black Rock was to us :D

I think all of the damned explosions would be the thing to fuck with them :lol


Blown up boat in the middle of the Island, blown up hatch with a huge hole in the ground, sub chunks over by where Locke had his fun. After exploring the Island a bit the new survivors would be scared shitless of invisible landmines and rocket launchers.
 
Jacob and MIB were born after all that egyptian shit, so how the hell was there Smoke monster heiroglyphics on the island?

Convenient answer --> when Ben turned the wheel the island went back to ancient egyptian 5000BC time and the egyptians on the island encountered smokey!
 
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