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McBacon said:
Ah, all my subscribed threads are dying!

I still don't have a show to replace Lost. Anything coming up over the horizon that has you guys excited?

The Walking Dead on AMC might be a good option. I'm keeping my eye on that for sure.
 
There are good shows out there, breaking bad, sons of anarchy, etc etc. All great, but none of them suck you in completely like LOST did, i think it has something to do with the mystery.
 
Emerson said:
Response above. But we're left with a ton of unanswered questions, among the most aggravating of which being the numerous hints towards Egyptian civilization on the island, left completely unaddressed.

No, the Egyptian stuff was addressed. It's just not important.

Every group that comes to the island leaves their mark, even after everybody is dead and gone.
Egyptian
Sumerian
Angkor
Roman
Colonial
US Military
DHARMA Hippy Scientists
French
Scottish
815

They all come to the island, play their role, leave their mark, and die. The history of the island goes back thousands of years with countless visitors and no specific known beginning, and will continue even after Jack's death (which is the kind of the point of the epilogue, with
Walt being groomed to be the next protector.
.)

Calantus said:
There are good shows out there, breaking bad, sons of anarchy, etc etc. All great, but none of them suck you in completely like LOST did, i think it has something to do with the mystery.

LOST is one of the few dramas that starts good, which is why it is so damn easy to recommend. None of this "Oh, it starts of slow," or "you need to watch full seasons to appreciate it," or "it is very slow paced." It is exciting and interesting from the very beginning and offers meaningful resolution and satisfaction on an episode-by-episode basis due to its character-centric structure.


Still, for people still trying to fill the gap left, there's a shitload of good television out there still on the air:

Breaking Bad (gets better and better with each season)
Mad Men (slow, but extraordinarily well made)
Dexter (has its problems with the supporting cast, but holy fuck is it suspensful at times. The end of the 4th season and the 5th season previews really give hope that it is all going to pay off).
Fringe (uneven, but the second half of the second season was fucking fantastic and the S3 previews look great. The central mythology is just really damn cool, and comes at a deliberate and measured pace)
Supernatural (I thought it was for teenage girls at first. I was wrong.)

And old classics:
The Wire
The West Wing
Deadwood
Rome
The Sopranos


Goddamn, TV is awesome.
 
Something about seeing this as the final Lost thread possible, ever, really hits me in a depressing way again.

God damnit, Lost-GAF, I DON'T DO TACO NIGHT.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Something about seeing this as the final Lost thread possible, ever, really hits me in a depressing way again.

God damnit, Lost-GAF, I DON'T DO TACO NIGHT.

Oh, please. We're still going to have "Late to the Party: LOST (no spoilers)" threads that turn into complete disasters every six weeks as people blatantly spoil things without fail.
 
Yaweee said:
Oh, please. We're still going to have "Late to the Party: LOST (no spoilers)" threads that turn into complete disasters every six weeks as people blatantly spoil things without fail.
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The amount of cult love this show gets is embarrassing. The writing was always terrible and the acting subpar but everyone kept saying 'just wait for the end, all will be revealed'. Lol not so much.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Something about seeing this as the final Lost thread possible, ever, really hits me in a depressing way again.

God damnit, Lost-GAF, I DON'T DO TACO NIGHT.

Ah, remember, if this thread gets too large, we get a second season.

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"Please don't refer to our threads as seasons."
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
The amount of cult love this show gets is embarrassing. The writing was always terrible and the acting subpar but everyone kept saying 'just wait for the end, all will be revealed'. Lol not so much.
Yea, can't say that ever happened. Was more like "if the last episode was supposed to validate the 120+ hours you already spent watching the series, lol you're a moron."
 
I love people who say the show had awful writing/characters/acting throughout, yet they watched all 121 hours of it.
 
brandonh83 said:
Did they?

If they wanted the final episode to validate the time they spent with the series, then probably. Otherwise, it's kind of stupid to criticize the body of a heavily-serialized drama based on watching random episodes here and there.


I also personally know people who pretty much hated the show, yet they watched every episode that aired for whatever reason. It seem like there are a lot of people on the internet like that, as well.
 
Tim-E said:
If they wanted the final episode to validate the time they spent with the series, then probably. Otherwise, it's kind of stupid to criticize the body of a heavily-serialized drama based on watching random episodes here and there.


I also personally know people who pretty much hated the show, yet they watched every episode that aired for whatever reason. It seem like there are a lot of people on the internet like that, as well.

I don't know, man. Going through the final season again, it hits me even harder how expertly done everything was. It's so odd to me to feel that it was somehow disconnected from the previous seasons, when it was the exact thing they were fighting for the whole time both in the sideways world (a second chance) and on the island (a purpose for them to be on the island in the first place).

It's just so great.

One thing that's really exciting about the box set, I was listening to the Across The Sea commentary and they were talking about how they shot Jacob and TMiB hiding from those hunters the way they shot the Losties hiding from the others and just the simple fact of having everything in the same box makes it really feel more connected. Like "Oh yeah! On Disc 8 of 36!"
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
The amount of cult love this show gets is embarrassing. The writing was always terrible and the acting subpar but everyone kept saying 'just wait for the end, all will be revealed'. Lol not so much.

Your avatar goes really well with what you just said.
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"Sometimes the complaints will be false"
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
I don't know, man. Going through the final season again, it hits me even harder how expertly done everything was. It's so odd to me to feel that it was somehow disconnected from the previous seasons, when it was the exact thing they were fighting for the whole time both in the sideways world (a second chance) and on the island (a purpose for them to be on the island in the first place).

It's just so great.

One thing that's really exciting about the box set, I was listening to the Across The Sea commentary and they were talking about how they shot Jacob and TMiB hiding from those hunters the way they shot the Losties hiding from the others and just the simple fact of having everything in the same box makes it really feel more connected. Like "Oh yeah! On Disc 8 of 36!"

I don't think I'm up for a complete series re-watch since the last one ended right before season 6 started airing, but I think I could definitely enjoy a re-watch of season 6. Pretty sure I'd enjoy myself with it more than I did before.
 
The two year, four and a half month* epic rewatch begins when now?

*one ep per week.

I'm currently about to finish season 2, but feel free to stop me whenever.. Season 1 is soo good, I don't think I'll ever mind starting the series afresh.
 
Iceman said:
The two year, four and a half month* epic rewatch begins when now?

*one ep per week.

Fuck that! Stick to a full 6 season schedule, watching everything on the same exact dates as their original airings except +6 years.
 
Tim-E said:
I also personally know people who pretty much hated the show, yet they watched every episode that aired for whatever reason. It seem like there are a lot of people on the internet like that, as well.
Well sometimes people just want to be "part of the conservation".
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
I don't know, man. Going through the final season again, it hits me even harder how expertly done everything was. It's so odd to me to feel that it was somehow disconnected from the previous seasons, when it was the exact thing they were fighting for the whole time both in the sideways world (a second chance) and on the island (a purpose for them to be on the island in the first place).

It's great. The last season is easily my favorite. Even I was skeptical about some aspects of it at the beginning but the direction the story went makes everything retroactively pretty cool.
 
Yaweee said:
Fuck that! Stick to a full 6 season schedule, watching everything on the same exact dates as their original airings except +6 years.

Can you honestly take the six month long hiatuses that we had to endure again?
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
I don't know, man. Going through the final season again, it hits me even harder how expertly done everything was. It's so odd to me to feel that it was somehow disconnected from the previous seasons, when it was the exact thing they were fighting for the whole time both in the sideways world (a second chance) and on the island (a purpose for them to be on the island in the first place).

It's just so great.
Season 6 had it's holes here and there objectively to be sure, I won't fight anyone who says it's not their favorite, but I love it the most personally. It just encompasses everything Lost has to offer, great/good/middling/poor alike. And even when Lost failed, it was usually in a way that felt like a totally admirable attempt (others will disagree, but I don't care, they're not me). There were very few instances where I was really let down by the show: Faraday's last episode, Across the Sea's execution, the bad episodes of mid-S3, no concrete explanation for the cabin, the vagueness of the sickness and the lack of theme through the first half of S5. everything else works for me, on some wavelength of enjoyment, and S6 seemed to touch on all those notes.
 
Fuck, apparently they awarded best score at the Creative Arts Emmys and fucking 24 won. I once loved 24 deeply, but it's score was never that great, and nothing on television came close to the dope shit Giacchino was dropping every week.
 
Tim-E said:
Fuck, apparently they awarded best score at the Creative Arts Emmys and fucking 24 won. I once loved 24 deeply, but it's score was never that great, and nothing on television came close to the dope shit Giacchino was dropping every week.

I would like to hear the music that they felt made Sean Callery deserve the award over Michael. I like Callery's music a lot, it's awesome and very fitting of the show, but I don't find it particularly memorable or worth listening to that much outside of the material, which is the direct opposite of the music in Lost.
 
Tim-E said:
We are very fortunate they decided to throw in the best thing Giacchino has done in his entire career in as a little extra.
I don't get why this is a big deal. Bonus track or not, it's going to be on the CD anyway.
 
Tigel said:
I don't get why this is a big deal. Bonus track or not, it's going to be on the CD anyway.

To me it demonstrates how clueless the record company is. It's just insulting to the fans and the composer. The soundtrack is flawed all over the place; the music seems to end at the end of The Candidate, with two bonus tracks, one from the finale and god knows what the other one is. It's just very sloppy and unorganized. I'm certainly not buying it because it's incredibly incomplete and does not feature all the music from the season. I know not all the music ever makes it, but there are entire episodes left out-- arguably the best episodes, musically speaking.
 
Tim-E said:
I also personally know people who pretty much hated the show, yet they watched every episode that aired for whatever reason. It seem like there are a lot of people on the internet like that, as well.

That's incredible, a bad show cannot hold this power over people. If it was truly bad, that is to say with no redeeming qualities, it would be ignored and forgotten.

DrEvil said:
Has anyone ever said what was on that mystery disc in the lid of the complete series?

I'll spoilerize it but it's no really necessary:
It's not a mystery disc, it's the full set bonus disc and any specs for the complete set reveal what's on it. It is a really cool way to package the disc though. You use the Dharma black light to reveal an image of the donkey wheel with arrows surrounding it that indicate you have to move the island to find it.
 
brandonh83 said:
To me it demonstrates how clueless the record company is. It's just insulting to the fans and the composer. The soundtrack is flawed all over the place; the music seems to end at the end of The Candidate, with two bonus tracks, one from the finale and god knows what the other one is. It's just very sloppy and unorganized. I'm certainly not buying it because it's incredibly incomplete and does not feature all the music from the season. I know not all the music ever makes it, but there are entire episodes left out-- arguably the best episodes, musically speaking.
I dunno, track 18 Passing The Torch seems to refer to the scenes around the camp fire where Jack becomes the new Protector. Maybe some tracks are not in chronological order.

It'll be a shame if all of the new themes from the last couples of episodes are not included :/
 
One of the big things that I wish they'd have put a little more effort in explaining or having some uniformity in was the powers of the protector and the "rules" the mother put on the siblings. She said they couldn't hurt each other yet Jacob makes his brother his bitch ... twice. She said if you go into the light something worse than death will happen to you. Ignoring the fact Jack didn't turn into a smoke monster and also the fact that you have to actually walk to the light when you reach the bottom of the cave whereas the brother's unconscious body just floated down the waterfall, why is Jacob's body even allowed to float down there when every other instance of a "rule" about to be broken ends with some sort of freak occurrence whereby the outcome is the rule remains intact. Shouldn't the man in black have gotten caught on a rock before floating down the fall into the cave or perhaps the flow of water should have reversed itself?
 
Dali said:
One of the big things that I wish they'd have put a little more effort in explaining or having some uniformity in was the powers of the protector and the "rules" the mother put on the siblings. She said they couldn't hurt each other yet Jacob makes his brother his bitch ... twice. She said if you go into the light something worse than death will happen to you. Ignoring the fact Jack didn't turn into a smoke monster and also the fact that you have to actually walk to the light when you reach the bottom of the cave whereas the brother's unconscious body just floated down the waterfall, why is Jacob's body even allowed to float down there when every other instance of a "rule" about to be broken ends with some sort of freak occurrence whereby the outcome is the rule remains intact. Shouldn't the man in black have gotten caught on a rock before floating down the fall into the cave or perhaps the flow of water should have reversed itself?

Yeah, I disliked some of the the vaguery of the rules. The "You can't hurt eachother," brings up a bunch of wishy-washy debates on who gets credit for what kills. However, I did like that all of Smokey's schemes come from figuring out these exact mechanics and coming up with long-con schemes to abuse them.

I also liked the subtle freak occurrences. It's some fucked up universal reality-bending shit, but I liked all of the failed attempts at suicide throughout the show. It is probably the best demonstration of the show's Fate Vs. Freewill duality, as well as the best hint at the relationship between Walt's and Jacob's summoning ability. I also liked how it played into all of the game symbolism throughout the series; some rules are hard limitations imposed by the island's rulers, while others are merely gentlemanly rules, like the rules dictating the Others' behaviors.

Has anybody made a full list of the rules?
 
I think it only makes sense that they're going to release a separate soundtrack for the last 2-3 episodes. There's just way too much good music in those episodes for them to put a bonus track or two with them included. And speaking of bonus tracks, I think that name gives us a clue. It's a "bonus" track because it's from the special soundtrack for The End. That has to be it.

PLEASE be right!
 
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