CrimsonFist
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Saying that though, Nomadic, any particular reason for not checking in with Natiko much?
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Love Boat 2 [Mafia] |OT| Electric Boogalove
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Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
I forgot about the forum lol
I'm not going to call hypocrisy but I have a feeling when you let mind share go along for too long you'll get things like someone coming back Day 2 and calling for a lynch based on pretense.
I mean, we're early in day 1 so I usually let this go and wait until two days or so has passed, but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from when I say you're projecting. You've said nothing of worth all game besides trying to police the thread.
Prod
Fluffing prod
Nothing
Shade
Second shade (which is odd, given how half the game literally hasn't checked in yet)God save us from the queen, then, because you're trying too hard.
At least your prod vote has said more than what your partner has said so far.
Again, some more shade on Dr. Worm, when Sophia hasn't done much between prod a player, throw shade and give one liners.I mean, Dr. Worm himself has pretty much done nothing but shitpost. Unless someone thinks a couple of votes with no reason is quality discussion...
Fluff
Superficial fluff...this conversation happens every day 1 so eh.
You are really fixated on us for some reason. I joked earlier that you had some agenda but now I'm wondering if there's some reason why.I mean I'm hardly jumping only on to easy topics here, especially when you take into account the private chat me and Crimson are talking with each other.
But remind me again of how much Verelios and Dragonz have added to the game so far? Especially miss "I'm more interested in writing my terrible Game of Thrones fanfiction than actually playing the game"
Walking it back.True, which is why I haven't quite considered them alignment indicative on it's own yet.
(Also I didn't say anything about Fat yet! Or at least not in public ¯\_(ツ
I mean, we're early in day 1 so I usually let this go and wait until two days or so has passed, but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from when I say you're projecting. You've said nothing of worth all game besides trying to police the thread.
Who's this bloke? Are you burning the bridge after crossing and taking a new consort? I can't believe you, I can't believe this.
Sorry for being skeptical of you, while also following slightly different trends than what my partner is doing.
And yeah, I'm playing a bit passively aggressively with the projecting, I don't deny that.
The good old "Don't force scum to lie, they could be PRs!"
If town PR just avoid talking about PR discussions?
kitsunelaine
Banned
Ughhhh i'm so tired but I read through the thread anyway. Good morning, Gafia! I smell MURDER on the horizon, which means it must be my second game. \o/
I'm actually happy Vere posted that because both Sophia and Crimson have been bugging me for some reason and I couldn't really put it in words. I wanna say tryhard, but I dunno. It's like pulling at every little thread to see what sticks.
Also why the fuck am I agreeing with Vere
Also why the fuck am I agreeing with Vere
How much have you checked in there?
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
tbh not all that much
Yeah, Vere is cool imo.
CrimSoph have been bothering me too, but kinda don't wanna put a vote down. Crimson is quite engaging and scum Crimson is a coaster master from memory so it seems odd that he'd ping scummy this early.
Rough number?
Hey now let's not say things we can't take back
So I probably won't have a real read list until at least a few days into this Day Phase. But for now I suggest we aggressively tunnel SophiaCrimson.
CrimsonFist does a joke post to 'randomly' vote for Trigger. But then on the same page takes what seems like another jokey post by Ty4on a little too seriously. I think it's weird.
Sophia saying "you're trying too hard" against MahDragon's early joke post seems weird too.
The slight weird makes my neck slightly itch with slight suspicion. Enough for me to suggest we wait til they both fall asleep and then aggressively turbo. Or not, but anyways this will be my vote at the moment.
vote: CrimsonFist
CrimsonFist does a joke post to 'randomly' vote for Trigger. But then on the same page takes what seems like another jokey post by Ty4on a little too seriously. I think it's weird.
Sophia saying "you're trying too hard" against MahDragon's early joke post seems weird too.
The slight weird makes my neck slightly itch with slight suspicion. Enough for me to suggest we wait til they both fall asleep and then aggressively turbo. Or not, but anyways this will be my vote at the moment.
vote: CrimsonFist
StarSketch
Banned
...Damn it I knew I forgot something.
Hello everyone.
I'm just gonna back read really quick.
Hello everyone.
I'm just gonna back read really quick.
We both got here at the same time...we're already in sync. Reading through as well.
I have to say - you two might be one of the most perfect pairings in this game.
StarSketch
Banned
lol
Uh...
Part of me wants to say "It's day one let people joke"
but the other is like
I am glad that my other part decided to join the game, I will try to catch up but won't be available tomorrow since I won't be in town. Daryll will be there to replace me for tomorrow. I have some small and unimportant reads but will release them as soon as I have made up my mind about these individuals.
It's my first time playing a love boat game so I don't really know how to make up my mind about the technique.
What are your thoughts on this.
If player 1 is acting suspicious, player 2 however is doing a good job in covering his tracks. Is that a good enough reason to kill both of em ?
Or rather this.
If player 1 is a pain in the ass, player 2 however is doing a great town job. Same question. Is that a good enough reason to kill both of them ?
Will go to bed now and will try to come in with some thoughts tomorrow morning and some better posts as soon as I come back.
The amount of posts will be a force to behold thought.
It's my first time playing a love boat game so I don't really know how to make up my mind about the technique.
What are your thoughts on this.
If player 1 is acting suspicious, player 2 however is doing a good job in covering his tracks. Is that a good enough reason to kill both of em ?
Or rather this.
If player 1 is a pain in the ass, player 2 however is doing a great town job. Same question. Is that a good enough reason to kill both of them ?
Will go to bed now and will try to come in with some thoughts tomorrow morning and some better posts as soon as I come back.
The amount of posts will be a force to behold thought.
I'll let you know if Darryl is doing a good job
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I would never pull a Robb Stark on you, my love
CrimsonFist
Member
It's early day 1, poking anything that moves is the best way to start to generate discussion.
I wasn't sure if Ty was joking or not, I queried it and got a decent response, and aside from that, my joke post was when there was literally nothing else to go on, so this is a pretty weak argument.
And Sophia and I are in completely different time zones, so good luck catching us both asleep.
Muffin1611
Banned
I'm a newbie on Gafia, not Gaf.
And I was trying to make them write posts I can get something from. Shitposting and trolling isn't really a great thing to get reads.
I think Ty was just making a joke at my ability to post a lot really really fast, especially when I have a private chat at my disposal.
And I'm keeping most of my opinions to mine and Crimson's private chat for now. I have a slight gut town-lean on Nomadic tho, if only because I feel if he was scum he would have asked the no lynch there instead of here.
That is so easy to fake though and does't even necessarily need to be faked depending on how new Nomadic is. The base assumption here is that people make the most use of their private chats even if we've had seasons of evidence that this isn't the case.
Being a pain in the ass isn't a reason to lynch 99% of the time but to answer the first question. There is no solid answer, you take the boat as a whole which means the pros of a lynch have to outweigh the cons. Which is kind of a non-answer but your question had no substance behind it anyway.
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Nothing in particular I grabbed as a quote but to Verelions, Ouro, and Kitty. Nah, while I do see Crimson and Sophia as being slightly hypocritical (mostly for Crimson calling out things his partner is doing), that's not really a scum tell. They aren't the same person and obviously Crimson isn't going to analyze Sophia, he knows her alignment.
It's kind of a case by case thing, although I'm in favor of looking act the actions of a pair as a whole. In the first Mafia game I unknowingly caught Coppa/Flame because they weren't on the same track together, but neither was acting suspicious on their own.
I would say that I would focus in on the person being suspicious, regardless of how their partner is. I feel like if you see someone that is acting scummy then they have to answer for that. No free passes. Especially since some of the people in this game can do a good job of masking when they're scum.
I think it's very much a "two sides of the same coin" situation. Both players are representing themselves in different ways, and it's up to me to take both into account when deciding whether or not to trust them. For all intents and purposes, it's one "player/role" instead of two, just with more to parse out. Personally, I like the idea of having two different reads on the same role that I'm trying to read.
Gives me more to mull over when I'm drunk.
Also, I don't think I'll find contrasting partners (ie. one helpful, one unhelpful) to be a lynchable offense most of the time. It's more about how they are avoiding things or the way in which they say things that interest me more when it comes to those pairs.
It is, yeah. Hence why it's just a slight gut read. It's possible they faked it, but what I know about Nomadic makes me think that isn't the case for the moment. Plus I feel a little bit confident in it because I came to that gut read in our private chat before Natiko chimed in about the status of their chat.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
I agree
What's Crimson's view?
I guess he can answer himself so Crimson: what is your read of Nomad?
Didn't think of this right away, but why would that be townie? Wouldn't scum!Nomad also fail to check scum chat before asking it and scum!Natiko notice that Nomad doesn't check scum chat?
(I'm assuming scum chat was open for a some days pregame like the boats were)
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Yes how do you read me?
Anything but completely dumb is an awful lie
Anything but completely dumb is an awful lie
I took it as a slight town tell because I figured that Nomad would be more in contact with his scummates if that were the case. Again, it is entirely possible that scum!Nomad failed to ask scum chat at all before asking it, but it just feels like the kind of thing that a scum chat would have reigned in beforehand.
So scum!Nomad would be more in contact with his partners but town!Nomad wouldn't with his lover?
That kinda doesn't make sense. To me it's tells me nothing. And I always add scum points at the one that brings up the no lynch option.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Why do I agree with you on Ty?
I feel like scum has never been the one to bring up "no lynch" first.
If anything, I want to scum read Kark for popping in to say hi and not being here for his favorite conversation piece.
I don't know, why do you?
lol
That's effort?
FWIW Nat hasn't been much of an entity today and Nomad really seems like a player who can slip through the cracks by excusing himself for being a bad player. If he's able to keep a natural play as scum then making that no lynch post isn't very alignment indicative.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
I'm keeping on my eye on Ty4on and Crimsonfist
Retroid (maybe butchering his name, was the partner to Kyanrute) did it in Love Boat 1 iirc
I remember reading that scum chat and Retroid's partner - Flame_AC - commented that he had to react to it because he always reacted to no lynchers.
I'm pretty positive scum proposing a no lynch has happened before in a game I've played, but I don't remember what game it actually was and I think it's only happened once so...
I went back through Ty's posts and the most immediate thing that jumped at me was the fact that there were more shitposts and less reads then I expected. He's had some reads on you near the start, a few reads and questions for me and Crimson, and some questions for Nomad/Natiko (which, as Crimson pointed out, could be taken as slight role fishing)
I mean, if you were playing scum, wouldn't you be more active with discussing strategies and stuff? If one person was just kind of inactive showing up, you'd probably be asking the mod to ping them or something, or to find out if something's wrong. In contrast, Love Boat 1 had a lot of chats that had minimal use.
I could just be projecting how I'd play it if I was scum tho, I guess. *shrugs*
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
smh
Not really. Plenty of chats where some players barely interact. I remember a certain bussing because someone didn't show up~
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Popmafia D1 lynch
Like I said, I agree. So that's not even the issue. Reading Sophia's post below, I know what it is now, it's the discrepancy between how high volume shit post you are/were and how much you suddenly went in on this. Which isn't as bad since you have to move to real play eventually but it still bothered me.
And fair point to love boat 1. I shouldn't have said never, I should have more said that I doubt it's actually indicitive of alignment.
You should see true artists in action
Like poetry in motion
Messy, messy poetry
That's true in a normal game but this is a pair game. The same can be said for both town and scum. Also Nomad was pretty active during the pre game.