All this for the shot that Flux is telling the truth and dies on N2, and lends you a little more credibility? It's a net loss.
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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part
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All this for the shot that Flux is telling the truth and dies on N2, and lends you a little more credibility? It's a net loss.
It being Blawl's reveal, Flux' reveal, Blawl's reasoning...
Th... Ah... I see.
It would still be really weird and counterintuitive to not claim miller and (if I haven't misunderstood you) also think that claiming miller could kill Fluxaisis at night if they really are role cops. I sure as hell wouldn't.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Kawl,
Is there any word on your role name that you could share? Not the whole thing (since you are trying to get flux and time to show up at your boat for investigation) but just a word or two.
Something that we could work with, it's just so far fetched that alignment, role names and tracking would matter in a game with only 15 roles.
Is there any word on your role name that you could share? Not the whole thing (since you are trying to get flux and time to show up at your boat for investigation) but just a word or two.
Something that we could work with, it's just so far fetched that alignment, role names and tracking would matter in a game with only 15 roles.
IDGAF about millers btw.
Without cops, we are all millers.
Also Kark if Flux died early that's really his fault more than anyone else's. Don't really understand your point here.
Without cops, we are all millers.
Also Kark if Flux died early that's really his fault more than anyone else's. Don't really understand your point here.
Why not wait until D2?
HEY I HAVE AN IDEA
What if flux/time check someone RANDOMLY without telling us who they are checking... and blarg/kawl track flux/time?
Then tomorrow blarg/kawl tells us who flux/time visited and flux/time tells us the role name of who they checked. That lets us check both their roles.
Pretty good idea, right?
What if flux/time check someone RANDOMLY without telling us who they are checking... and blarg/kawl track flux/time?
Then tomorrow blarg/kawl tells us who flux/time visited and flux/time tells us the role name of who they checked. That lets us check both their roles.
Pretty good idea, right?
They're likely not going to share that, but it seems clear that "Miller" is not part of their role name. So trying to confirm them with a NameCop is pointless.
Or they could track Flux, and then tell their scumpartners whether or not Flux actually visited them before submitting their kill.
I have no problem with this. The only downside would be timeflux hitting and revealing a town PR. But it does seem to be an elegant solution.
As far as I understood, this plan was only to confirm Flux, not Blawl. They remain unconfirmed (along with literally everyone else)
Again, was never the point to confirm us with a name cop. That's backwards. But also yes, I am not going to share that sorry.
Which doesn't matter because if Flux is confirmed, he dies. We can scold Flux all day for his roleclaim, but collectively following through on bad plans is on us.
I'm bad at explaining thoughts I have:
0. it's night time and both flux/time and blarg/kawl are alive
1. flux/time uses their role check on someone of their choosing, without telling anyone who
2. blarg/kawl track flux/time
3. it's now d2
4. blarg/kawl first tell us who flux/time visited, confirming their tracking ability
5. flux/time tell us the role name of who they visited
6. person flux/time visited confirms/denies their role name, confirming flux/time's role cop ability
7. ????
8. profit?
...are you suggesting they would get their night action results before submitting the NK? What?
Nothing could go wrong here.
LOL
That's not how night actions typically work?
Aren't they resolved all in one go before giving any information?
Yeah it made sense, the potentially huge downside is it reveals another PR
Unless Burb wants to clarify the timing issue, Gafia games have typically allowed night kill submissions after receiving night information (when scum has information roles).
You should know this, it was like that when you were scum in Danganronpa.
Never Forever
Member
7. person flux/time visits is a town power role
8. person flux/time visits gets killed N2
9. ????
10. town loses
Wtf is this bullshit? There is no way in hell you believe a word of that
Zippedpinhead
Member
True couldn't hurt to ask though. Even if they had followed through it likely would have been something like "of".
Probably should have run that by you in chat first right?
Because day 1 we don't have much to talk about except inactivity, role claims and blind guesses. Of the three, I find role claims the most interesting.
I could be wrong, and I'll easily concede this point if I'm mistaken. There's more than enough to grill people about without it.
Just to clarify for anyone that hasn't been scum:
It doesn't work like that. It's NEVER worked like that.
...unless there are any Animal Crossing players in here that want to correct me
Uh...what? AFAIK the night actions occur concurrently, so information shouldn't be given to PRs until the day is ready to start, (I.e., after scum has picked a target).
Yes admittedly there is a lot of "wow I sure hope nothing goes horribly wrong" in my plan. Still wanted to throw it out there.
Blargonaut
Banned
Look, Kark, the subtle means by which you defame us by continually repeating the tactics revolving around facing an early Miller introduction and subsequent natural suspicion resultant, is a hella cheap trick of a lynch push. Because that's what you are. Doing.
This is what we got, and we served it to you. I won't apologize for it being concurrent with the whole Timeflux debacle. Kawl, agree with me
And, you know what; honestly, I don't give a damn if Team Timeflux chooses to peek at us Tonight or not. If we benefit or not, whatevs, and vice versa. That public pre-empting shit's extra to OUR OG Miller claim; they may have been first, but we were First. I mean, do you honestly believe that Kawl and I based OUR flawless tandem debut on their flaccid, uncoordinated entrance? pls
So, like, if you're really feeling that way about us, Kark, then go drop that red already and build your policy traction after the fact. Stop circle-strafing and get to it.
Do it, Kark.
I want you to do it
Or start coming up with more plans on how to use us, because I'm lazy
If that is in response to his action order claim, I find this vote a bit suspect. With out heavy WIFOM, I find it hard to believe Kark would make such a silly mistake as scum. Obviously me and Kark are having a bit of a disagreement here, but don't want to let this slide by. Feels like an exteme low effort vote.
If it's in response to more, expand a bit please.
Things that could go wrong, you've also forgotton about:
Flume killed
Blawl killed
scum switcher
scum roleblocker
FWIW, that's how I ran that game
Seconded. Kark is weird but this vote isn't great either
His approach. This isn't the first time I've voted for Karkador; I had retracted my vote before, but now I'm putting it back. His method of interrogationnot just in regards to yous seemingly to overlook what people are saying so he can construct and push his own story about it. I haven't played against Karkador, though, so I don't know if this is just his playstyle. Reminds me a bit of Darryl in Wolf 1who ended up being Townexcept it's not the arguments he was dismissing, but rationale.
And then there's Zipped, trying to look into Blarg and Kawl's role name for some reason, along with Karkador also being quite insistent on that point.
And I don't like this:
Kill Roy?
Yeah, and both times, your votes were clearly telegraphing "help, I'm in a corner".
Nope.
flume visiting a town power role... doesn't seem terrible unless it's a doctor, we get three more or less confirmed townies instead of 2 question marks.
person flume visits dies n1... sucks but seems improbable.
flume killed... beats having to lynch them eventu
blawl killed... ^
scum switcher... sucks
scum roleblocker... if blawl or flume gets roleblocked they are probably town-aligned
blawl/flume fake claims being roleblocked... sucks
So yeah a lot can go wrong I guess.
El Topo is currently doing research for something completely unrelated because he was stupid enough to promise that he would deliver results today. He realizes that this will probably take until (at least) midnight.
El Topo is also completely baffled people are entertaining the idea of not (really) brutally lynching someone who role-claimed within the first ten minutes of Day 1. Then again, if only that had been the only role-claim.
El Topo also has no idea why he is writing in 3rd person, but he is starting to like it.
