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LTTP: Half -Life 2

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how is it with the 360/ps3 controller? i played hl2 on the pc when it first released and i loved it but i never beat it. i want to get it on a console, but im a little weary about how the game plays w/o a kb/m.

and which version is better? ps3 or 360?
 
bdizzle said:
^^^ LTTP Late to the Party

how is it with the 360/ps3 controller? i played hl2 on the pc when it first released and i loved it but i never beat it. i want to get it on a console, but im a little weary about how the game plays w/o a kb/m.

and which version is better? ps3 or 360?
The Ep2 demo on XBL convinced me to buy the 360 version, meaning you should download it too and see for yourself. The controls are very smooth and responsive IMO, and the sensitivity is adjustable to your liking. I had already played through the PC version, but sometimes I like playing with a controller on a bigger screen.

I am also looking to get the PS3 version, and I've been trying to get impressions on how it controls with the sixaxis, but haven't gotten much response yet... what little feedback I did get back was at least positive. The only cons I've read from actual users are the slightly increased load times and sometimes the framerate drops, but is mostly smooth. Its too bad there isn't the same demo on PSN.
 
cool, i didnt even know there was a 360 demo. im usually pretty good at keeping up with the demos of games im interested in. ima dl it now and see whats good

thanks man
 
No prob, and if I didn't make it clear, the 360 version is the superior one, especially from a technical standpoint. I am just looking into the PS3 version because I sit close to my consoles and the 360's dvd-drive is too fucking loud.
 
I played HL2 when it was first released. From a gameplay perspective, it was excellent through and through; the pacing was nice enough. The main star of the game was the gravgun, and playing around with the environment with physics was a lot of fun.

Narrative-wise, though, it was pretty mediocre. Aside from the occasional cool NPC (Father Gregorius, Lamar the headcrab, Dog), everyone else was pretty dull and uninteresting. The 'drama' was rather lame. The one NPC which grated me the most was Alyx, though. Not that she was such a despicable character on her own, but the spotlight that Valve decided to shine on her (esp in Ep1, urg) made the story portions of the game very unenjoyable. Some people think she's great, but urg.

Ep1 I found not as good. It was shorter, yes, but they also condensed more Alyx into it. And there weren't any battle scenes as fun as some of the original's best.

Particularly memorable moments were:
Hovercraft chase scene
Ravenholm with only the gravgun
Gunship battles with homing rockets
Turret defense
Strider battles
Super gravgun levels

Ep2 may potentially be good, but I'll pass. The 360 demo shoved Alyx right in my face from the getgo. HI GORDON LET ME HELP YOU WITH THE GRAVGUN HAHA HERE YOU TAKE IT YOU PROBABLY KNOW HOW TO USE IT BETTER THAN I DO!!! The silent protagonist doesn't work well for me, especially since my Gordon would be telling her to go fly a freaking kite. Did Alyx singlehandedly ruin the series for me? If she didn't, it certainly feels like it. I'm blowing it out of proportions, of course, but that element is frustrating enough that the series' cons probably outweigh its pros.

EDIT: I did like HL2 deathmatch quite a bit. I went mostly for gravgun only, grabbing items throughout the levels to get opportunistic kills or create escape routes when the opponent was outgunning me. It was loads of fun. Alas, lack of players/maps kind of killed it.
 
perryfarrell said:
Half-Life 2 is a smart game. The characters, the dialogue, the settings, the story... it all has a clever, updated feel to it. Makes it fun to interact with the world.

Gameplay-wise the game isn't perfect. The tedium of clear the room, progress, clear the next room, etc. can get a little old. Also, as somebody already pointed out, the guns aren't that great. Not all the enemies are equally compelling. But that's just nitpicking.

I guess I find the dialogue and characters very memorable, especially compared with what's on offer in most games today. Compare for instance the cheeseball pulp dialogue from Resident Evil 4 with Alix's lines from Half-Life 2. Night and day.

Agreed. I also disliked the loading screens popping in every so often in the start of the game, they really broke from the immersion. They became more sparse later, but gave a slightly bad first impression to me.
 
Quick update because I feel... excited. I am on Episode 2. Before I go to the good stuff, I have one small whine: They extended too much the Antilons, and when the guardian followed me I nearly crapped.

Now.. the real... good... unexpected stuff that made it all worthwhile:

When Alyx is recovering (nice graphics too) and the GMan appears out of nowhere. That must be one of gaming's greatest moments or something. I felt immersed, it was like an epiphany to me. No game had ever done this for me

I squealed like a little girl when he appeared. Really, that was fucking cool, a nice touch, and my hype to get to White Forest is 10 times bigger than ever. Now, I feel bad beating this game, but I'll return and replay everything. Still, awesome gaming moment. I am loving Episode 2, even more than Episode 1 (even though it runs kinda crappy on my PC, my average is like 27FPS =P). I love Valve.
 
madmook said:
No prob, and if I didn't make it clear, the 360 version is the superior one, especially from a technical standpoint. I am just looking into the PS3 version because I sit close to my consoles and the 360's dvd-drive is too fucking loud.

i think they took the demo off xblm. i searched and couldnt find it. i guess ill rent it or something
 
So, I just finished the first 19 levels of Portal. OMG... that was great. Really great. I need more, gonna play the Bonus Maps, but it was great. Especially 19 and that "battle". Awesome. Great. Perfect. Its near to being my GOTY, but SMG beats it by a bit. Awesome game, EVERYONE should play it.
 
Well, it took me a while (lots of stuff to do) but I finally finished Episode 2.

Opinion? My favorite so far. Shit at the final chapter and HOLY shit at the Ending. That was totally unexpected. Great game, they nailed the driving. The last chapter was pure adrenaline, fucking shit... that was great. The antlions cave looked awesome, and I really liked it. Hell, the only complaint I have is a wish it would have been longer.

At the end I was annoyed by performance issues (the low FPS at the strider battles got to my nerves) and the fact that I had to put textures to medium. Fear not, I will be getting a 8800 soon and beat the game, in Hard, with everything High... at 60FPS.

Valve, GREAT game. Really really GREAT. NOW... when is EP 3 coming?
 
This thread made me go back and start to play Half Life 2 to see if my hate was actually misplaced.

Right around the time where you get to command antlions (prison breakout) I stopped playing again.. This game's gunplay is TEH SUCK and the pacing is simply godawful. No tension, every weapon feels like you're shooting with water pistols and every single enemy is stupid be it combine soldiers or ant lions, they just act like they've been lobotomized.

I want to finish it, seeing as I own it and I don't like leaving games unfinished, but this is the third time I restarted it.. This time I got further than ever - tell me, does it become more fun? And how much longer do I have to suffer? :lol

More importantly, are there any more vehicle levels left? Because the hovercraft and buggy levels made me want to cut my own throat.
 
OK here's the deal duderz:

I just got done playing HL2, HL2:EP1 and HL2:EP2(PC version of The Orango Box).

In a word, MARVELOUS!!!!!!!

Totally freakin awesome games! But man, some of those sections were just. plain. hard. Played them on normal, and don't even wanna THINK of playing them again on hard. Jesus, the part HL2 where
you gotta kill TWO freakin gunships at that military base section
was just major torture. But nothing....and I mean NOTHING folks, could prepare me for the asskicking I took once
I got to the end of ep2 where you gotta defend the Silo base against something lime a dozen striders and FUCKLOAD of hunters!
I defy ANYONE to tell me they didn't at least contemplate turning on GOD mode during this section!

I beat them yesterday and boy, am I glad that's over! The Hunters are the most mind numbingly tedious enemies to kill in the whole series. They're just a stright PITA.

Anyway the games ran fairly well on my PC and I can safely say I am now a first person shooter convert! GoW didn't do it, Bioshock didn't do it, it was Half Life that's finally bitten me in the ass with the FPS bug.

I am now playing Half-Life 1:Source off steam....boy oh boy does this feel dated compared to 2 :lol: But despite that, you know what I can't help but notice? Just how smooth the game runs. I mean I am getting somewhere between 200 and 250fps and the animation is buttery smoooooth! Even when I was getting upwards of 100fps in HL2, it still didn't appear to look as buttery smooth as HL1 looks. Why is that? It makes me wonder if infact, our eyes can actually tell the difference in framerate beyond 60fps. I'm starting to believe so.

Anyway HL1 is pretty cool so far. Is it easier or harder than HL2?

Also what FPS game would you guys recommend going to from here? I still gotta play play Portal but I hear it's 2 hours long or something :lol:

What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?
 
isamu said:
What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?

Nope, you've played the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

Just give up the FPS genre now.
 
Quake 2 is the only one with a real single player component, and it's worth a play through. F.E.A.R. was also good if those kinds of movies scare the shit out of you (like the do to me).

Your best bet is to look around on steam and try out a few demos, find something you like, then buy it.
 
isamu said:
OK here's the deal duderz:

I just got done playing HL2, HL2:EP1 and HL2:EP2(PC version of The Orango Box).

In a word, MARVELOUS!!!!!!!

Totally freakin awesome games! But man, some of those sections were just. plain. hard. Played them on normal, and don't even wanna THINK of playing them again on hard. Jesus, the part HL2 where
you gotta kill TWO freakin gunships at that military base section
was just major torture. But nothing....and I mean NOTHING folks, could prepare me for the asskicking I took once
I got to the end of ep2 where you gotta defend the Silo base against something lime a dozen striders and FUCKLOAD of hunters!
I defy ANYONE to tell me they didn't at least contemplate turning on GOD mode during this section!
It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.
Fall back early. Take advantage of the respawning ammo. Hunters go down quick with rockets. Kill them first, they'll prevent you from attaching the thingies to the striders.

I agree with the general sentiment though. The single-player content in that package is sooooo good.
Also what FPS game would you guys recommend going to from here? I still gotta play play Portal but I hear it's 2 hours long or something :lol:

What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?
For some genre-defining fps experiences, play NOLF 2 (Noone Lives Forever), or heck, even NOLF 1 for some really polished, awesome "earnest" fps action (it's actually comedy, story-wise, but the game design is not). Serious Sam: The Second Encounter for well-balanced but stupid, ballsy non-stop carnage. Max Payne 1/2 are third-person, but pretty high quality shooters. Ya know, the games that invented "bullet time".

Quake 2 is probably the best of the Quakes, and it becomes completely awesome after a few hours, but it starts quite slow and boring.
Doom 3 is more a house-of-horrors kind of simulated theme park ride. It's overall too easy and too repetitive to be really good. I say skip it.
You can skip Unreal as well. Unreal I didn't age well, doesn't have the benefit of being considered innovative anymore. The graphics and levels of AI and scripting were impressive when it was new, but it doesn't do much beyond that. It's okay, but not more. Unreal II on the other hand is complete garbage by any standards.
 
Finally ordered Orange Box PC yesterday and can´t wait to play it. Loved HL1, started playing HL2 on the original Xbox because of lacking a decent PC at that time but didn´t finish the game because it felt so gimped. Now, finally I have a decent PC again and will be able to play the game in all its glory :D .
But I´ve got a question: As far as I know there have been some nice graphical features implemented into Ep1 and Ep2 due to an upgraded version of the Source engine being used (HDR and other stuff I can´t remember).
Is there a way - a mod or something- to update the visuals in the original HL2 as well?
 
I enjoyed a lot of this game, especially episode 2. Episode 2 was beyond pretty. I've never seen such a awesome looking fps with so much color and pop. I want more of it, and I really wanted ep3 right after it was over.
 
So I'm playing the game as well. I made it to Ravenholm.

I have very mixed feelings about it. There things I like (graphx, characters, story)

but man the gameplay is broken. At least by current standards. I really struggle accepting the fact that I keep shooting an enemy and there's barely any feedback. The enemy just stays there, burst of blood and it doesn't matter where you shoot it.

Also the puzzles, at least so far, are very meh. If I see another lever puzzle I'll go straight to ep1 :P
 
TemplaerDude said:
hl2 is pretty good. episode one kind of sucks. episode two is great.
I agree by fixing HL2.
HL 2 was FUCKING GREAT ONE OF THE BEST FPS EVER
Ep.1 kind of sucks
Ep.2 is, again, FUCKING GREAT etc. :P
 
1) Half-Life 2, annoyingly boring (I have no gripes with linear games, but my god, keep the linearity interesting and diversive) and it wasn't even close to what I expected from a Half-Life game. There was some cool things, but overall, in my opinion, it disappointed. I didn't recognize the Half-Life I played years ago, let alone, anything that made it sequel worthy.
2) Episode 1, more of the same.
3) Episode 2, YES! Half-Life gameplay everywhere and more. It was exciting and fun (lots and lots of variety in game-play and overal style). Totally redeems Valve for the first two pieces of misplaced development time, for me. Drama, story and some of the best and fun FPS action I ever enjoyed.
 
isamu said:
OK here's the deal duderz:

I just got done playing HL2, HL2:EP1 and HL2:EP2(PC version of The Orango Box).

In a word, MARVELOUS!!!!!!!

Totally freakin awesome games! But man, some of those sections were just. plain. hard. Played them on normal, and don't even wanna THINK of playing them again on hard. Jesus, the part HL2 where
you gotta kill TWO freakin gunships at that military base section
was just major torture. But nothing....and I mean NOTHING folks, could prepare me for the asskicking I took once
I got to the end of ep2 where you gotta defend the Silo base against something lime a dozen striders and FUCKLOAD of hunters!
I defy ANYONE to tell me they didn't at least contemplate turning on GOD mode during this section!

I beat them yesterday and boy, am I glad that's over! The Hunters are the most mind numbingly tedious enemies to kill in the whole series. They're just a stright PITA.

Anyway the games ran fairly well on my PC and I can safely say I am now a first person shooter convert! GoW didn't do it, Bioshock didn't do it, it was Half Life that's finally bitten me in the ass with the FPS bug.

I am now playing Half-Life 1:Source off steam....boy oh boy does this feel dated compared to 2 :lol: But despite that, you know what I can't help but notice? Just how smooth the game runs. I mean I am getting somewhere between 200 and 250fps and the animation is buttery smoooooth! Even when I was getting upwards of 100fps in HL2, it still didn't appear to look as buttery smooth as HL1 looks. Why is that? It makes me wonder if infact, our eyes can actually tell the difference in framerate beyond 60fps. I'm starting to believe so.

Anyway HL1 is pretty cool so far. Is it easier or harder than HL2?

Also what FPS game would you guys recommend going to from here? I still gotta play play Portal but I hear it's 2 hours long or something :lol:

What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?

If you really liked the HL series I'd recommend trying FEAR. It's very 'half lifey' but with horror elements.

Personally my favourite FPS of all time is DOOM 3. But that's a very unpopular opinion and most people hate it. I wouldn't recommend any of the Quake games either these days. Quake 2 is in my top 10 games of all time but not for the single player element. It's because I played it for 2 years multiplayer. Still unmatched if you ask me.

Something else to consider would be COD4. One of the best FPS games I've played for a long time. You'd have to be into the 'realistic' one shot equals death type of gameplay though. It gets pretty frustrating.

As far as the HL series and me are concerned. I recently finished Ep 1 and 2 myself. I really loved Ep 1 but thought Ep 2 was a little boring. The last section as well I thought was very badly designed. Surprising because everything else in the series is polished beyond belief.

So for me, I'd rate the entire series HL2 > Ep 1 >>>>>>> Ep 2.
 
Mar_ said:
If you really liked the HL series I'd recommend trying FEAR. It's very 'half lifey' but with horror elements.

Personally my favourite FPS of all time is DOOM 3. But that's a very unpopular opinion and most people hate it. I wouldn't recommend any of the Quake games either these days. Quake 2 is in my top 10 games of all time but not for the single player element. It's because I played it for 2 years multiplayer. Still unmatched if you ask me.

Something else to consider would be COD4. One of the best FPS games I've played for a long time. You'd have to be into the 'realistic' one shot equals death type of gameplay though. It gets pretty frustrating.

As far as the HL series and me are concerned. I recently finished Ep 1 and 2 myself. I really loved Ep 1 but thought Ep 2 was a little boring. The last section as well I thought was very badly designed. Surprising because everything else in the series is polished beyond belief.

So for me, I'd rate the entire series HL2 > Ep 1 >>>>>>> Ep 2.

bcn-ron said:
It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.
Fall back early. Take advantage of the respawning ammo. Hunters go down quick with rockets. Kill them first, they'll prevent you from attaching the thingies to the striders.

I agree with the general sentiment though. The single-player content in that package is sooooo good.For some genre-defining fps experiences, play NOLF 2 (Noone Lives Forever), or heck, even NOLF 1 for some really polished, awesome "earnest" fps action (it's actually comedy, story-wise, but the game design is not). Serious Sam: The Second Encounter for well-balanced but stupid, ballsy non-stop carnage. Max Payne 1/2 are third-person, but pretty high quality shooters. Ya know, the games that invented "bullet time".

Quake 2 is probably the best of the Quakes, and it becomes completely awesome after a few hours, but it starts quite slow and boring.
Doom 3 is more a house-of-horrors kind of simulated theme park ride. It's overall too easy and too repetitive to be really good. I say skip it.
You can skip Unreal as well. Unreal I didn't age well, doesn't have the benefit of being considered innovative anymore. The graphics and levels of AI and scripting were impressive when it was new, but it doesn't do much beyond that. It's okay, but not more. Unreal II on the other hand is complete garbage by any standards.

Mar and bcn-ron thanks for the replies you guys RAWQUE!

Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.

Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?

Any of you played S.W.A.T.? What do you think of it as a single player game?

How about Far Cry?

DuesEX?
 
bcn-ron said:
It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.
Fall back early. Take advantage of the respawning ammo. Hunters go down quick with rockets. Kill them first, they'll prevent you from attaching the thingies to the striders.


Hmm thats actuallr a food stratgey! I shoulda done it what way.
 
isamu said:
Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.

The impressions you've heard are pretty much spot on. To be honest, the closest game to compare it to is Halo cause the two games are all about the combat and no exploration or puzzle solving. But the game has even less level variety in Halo which at least has a different environment for each level. The game still might be worth trying cause the enemy AI and firefights are awesome for the first couple of hours, but after that you'll probably get sick of playing.

isamu said:
Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?

I'm playing through Stalker right now, and it's a great game with a lot of annoyances. I haven't encountered too many bugs (I have the Steam version so I assume it's updated with the latest patch) and the performance is great (though I have an 8800GT). Really the main problem for me is difficulty, cause for the first 5 hours or even more you get guns that are incredibly inaccurate and for the whole game you have to use headshots to kill. The other problem is you have large open worlds and your only form of transportation is on foot. There's also a few antiquated gameplay mechanics (e.g. you can only carry a certain weight of items). Approach the game like single player WoW with shooting for combat, and if that sounds interesting for you I'd try it.

isamu said:
How about Far Cry?

I only played the demo and didn't enjoy it, and from everything I heard the game hasn't held up well.

isamu said:

Probably no game has ever held up better. BUY AND PLAY IMMEDIATELY!
 
isamu said:
Mar and bcn-ron thanks for the replies you guys RAWQUE!

Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.

Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?

Any of you played S.W.A.T.? What do you think of it as a single player game?

How about Far Cry?

DuesEX?

Yeah I'm going to offer the opposing viewpoint to Mar over here. I loved HL2, it's the first game that blew through non-stop from beginning to end, ep2 included, in a long time. However, FEAR I bought and it's been sitting on the shelves after a couple of sessions.

IMO Fear was a horrendous game. People laud it for its gunplay and terror elements but I thought only the former was done well. Taking a cynic's view, FEAR essentially had you run around the exact same dark warehouses and buildings in between the occasional firefights. The horror elements are boiled down to out-of-nowhere "boo" moments and the occasional heythewaterthatI'mwadingthroughturnedintoblood scenarios. I mean the bulk of the enemies are literally clones, and I'm saying this fully realizing that the HL2 enemy lineup is a step-down in terms of diversity from HL1. The game is polished, it's just that there's not all that much under said polish.

It's fantastic if you love gunplay and...not much else. To put into perspective, HL2's weak gunplay is supplemented by it's strong atmosphere, tension, and storytelling. If FEAR didn't have it's gunplay, it'd have...not a whole lot.

I haven't played Stalker, so you might want to give that a try. However, I definitely don't recommend FEAR if you're looking for a somewhat comparable experience to HL2. If you're just looking for more good FPSs, out of what I played I'd suggest Crysis, COD4, Bioshock, etc...nothing extraordinarily leftfield.
 
I'm almost done with Half-Life 1. Turning out to be an awesome game so far with a couple of nagging issues:

I hate not being able to pick up object at ALL! That sucks! No gravity gun, no zoom, and no sprint button also suck.

Gun accuracy can be HORRIBLE at times(especially the SMG).


The jumping physics are wierd. Why do I have to jump and duck at the same time to hop on a box/ledge/etc? That's retarded. I spent hours at this one part in the subway where you gotta jump onto and over these green boxes to get to these stairs, and was wondering why the fuck I couldn't hop on them, not knowing about the jump/duck combo routine. It's crap.

OMFG OMFG OMFG the ladder physics...can you say, BROKEN!!!!!!!!!?????????? For the love of God please kill me now if I see another ladder I gotta climb down! Climbing down ladders in this game S-U-C-K-S RINO NUTS! Why the fuck can't I attach myself to the damn ladder instead of falling off the ledge and killing myself? Why isn't there a "connect to ladder" button like there is in HL2? If you tallied up the total figure representing the number of times I've fallen to my death instead climbing down a ladder properly, it'd be in the 1000's :lol

The AI is pretty stupid sometimes. I've gone right up to guards and blasted them right in the face with my shotty. :lol Fun shit.

Other than those issues I'm loving it :)

I wonder if DeusEX is better than HL1.
 
isamu said:
The jumping physics are wierd. Why do I have to jump and duck at the same time to hop on a box/ledge/etc? That's retarded. I spent hours at this one part in the subway where you gotta jump onto and over these green boxes to get to these stairs, and was wondering why the fuck I couldn't hop on them, not knowing about the jump/duck combo routine. It's crap.

The tutorial tells you how to do that. ;p

My personal recommendations would be Quake 1 and the Serious Sam series, but then I'm a big fan of pure run n' gun action.
 
Since you are playing Half Life, get Opposing Forces. That game owns so much its ridiculous. In a lot of spots, its like a better version of Half Life.
 
isamu said:
I'm almost done with Half-Life 1. Turning out to be an awesome game so far with a couple of nagging issues:

I hate not being able to pick up object at ALL! That sucks! No gravity gun, no zoom, and no sprint button also suck.

Gun accuracy can be HORRIBLE at times(especially the SMG).


The jumping physics are wierd. Why do I have to jump and duck at the same time to hop on a box/ledge/etc? That's retarded. I spent hours at this one part in the subway where you gotta jump onto and over these green boxes to get to these stairs, and was wondering why the fuck I couldn't hop on them, not knowing about the jump/duck combo routine. It's crap.

OMFG OMFG OMFG the ladder physics...can you say, BROKEN!!!!!!!!!?????????? For the love of God please kill me now if I see another ladder I gotta climb down! Climbing down ladders in this game S-U-C-K-S RINO NUTS! Why the fuck can't I attach myself to the damn ladder instead of falling off the ledge and killing myself? Why isn't there a "connect to ladder" button like there is in HL2? If you tallied up the total figure representing the number of times I've fallen to my death instead climbing down a ladder properly, it'd be in the 1000's :lol

The AI is pretty stupid sometimes. I've gone right up to guards and blasted them right in the face with my shotty. :lol Fun shit.

Other than those issues I'm loving it :)

I wonder if DeusEX is better than HL1.

I really didn't like HL1 at all. Got about a third of the way through it and never went back.

It's interesting seeing peoples views on FEAR in this thread. It has been a long time since I played it but I don't remember it being horrible. On the contrary, it was one of the few FPS games I finished post Quake. Granted, I do enjoy games with a good story and atmosphere even if the gameplay is horrible.

In fact I'd have to be honest and say I'd be the last person anybody should ask what they should play after HL2. My gaming tastes are incredibly different from anyone else that I know.
 
isamu said:
Mar and bcn-ron thanks for the replies you guys RAWQUE!

Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.

Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?

Any of you played S.W.A.T.? What do you think of it as a single player game?

How about Far Cry?

DuesEX?

I enjoyed both FEAR and Far Cry. Both games are very different than Half Life though as their focus is more on the gunplay than the story/atmosphere/puzzles. FEAR's gunplay is especially visceral and engaging, although the environments can get repetitive. Far Cry is as open as you're going to get out of an FPS and still holds up very well IMO.

Assuming you don't have a 360, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 are also must have's.

I haven't played Deus Ex, but from what I hear, it's amazing and you must play it now.
 
IronicallyTwisted said:
Nah. It holds up better, but it wasn't better back then.
I'd say it was. It had big levels with multiple ways to play through them, amazing "interactive" story and so on. That game was and is full of awesome. Come on, do you remember when you went into a female restroom and after a while someone told you that you shouldn't do that?:lol
 
The only problem with HL2 is that it tries too many different things. That makes the game not feel very solid. EP1 was a nice addition. EP2 is impressive, the best FPS valve has made
 
Arch said:
I enjoyed both FEAR and Far Cry. Both games are very different than Half Life though as their focus is more on the gunplay than the story/atmosphere/puzzles. FEAR's gunplay is especially visceral and engaging, although the environments can get repetitive. Far Cry is as open as you're going to get out of an FPS and still holds up very well IMO.

Assuming you don't have a 360, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 are also must have's.

I haven't played Deus Ex, but from what I hear, it's amazing and you must play it now.


I already played Bioshock on the 360. To me, that game is perfection. I mean seriously....I loved loved LOVED Biosock to D-E-A-T-H. It was unbelievably awesome, and I'm sorry but rips HL2 and its episodes a new one in my opinion. I was going to start my FPS journey on the PC by replaying Bioshock again on the PC, but changed my mind at the last minute and decided on the orango box instead, since I never played any of the HL games before. But now I'm tempted to go back and re-play Biosock again for the 4th time.

These varying opinions on DeusEX has me intrigued. Let me ask a few questions about that game in comparison to HL1.:

1)Which has better graphics between DeausEX and HL1?
2)Which came out first?
3)Does DeusEX use the HL1 or HL2 engine?
4)Can you pick up objects and throw them at people?
5)Which game is more intuitive?
6)Which game is harder?
7)Which game is longer?
8)Which game has better animation?
 
isamu said:
I already played Bioshock on the 360. To me, that game is perfection. I mean seriously....I loved loved LOVED Biosock to D-E-A-T-H. It was unbelievably awesome, and I'm sorry but rips HL2 and its episodes a new one in my opinion. I was going to start my FPS journey on the PC by replaying Bioshock again on the PC, but changed my mind at the last minute and decided on the orango box instead, since I never played any of the HL games before. But now I'm tempted to go back and re-play Biosock again for the 4th time.

These varying opinions on DeusEX has me intrigued. Let me ask a few questions about that game in comparison to HL1.:

1)Which has better graphics between DeausEX and HL1?
2)Which came out first?
3)Does DeusEX use the HL1 or HL2 engine?
4)Can you pick up objects and throw them at people?
5)Which game is more intuitive?
6)Which game is harder?
7)Which game is longer?
8)Which game has better animation?
1) Deus Ex is technically superior but Half-Life has cleaner and more consistent art direction. Since the visuals for both games can be upgraded it is pretty much a wash.
2) Half-Life
3) Neither, Unreal
4) Deus Ex - yes. Half-Life - no.
5) Half-Life, because it is simpler. But if you have played any at least one FPS and one RPG before Deus Ex will not confuse you.
6) Deus Ex
7) Deus Ex. It is one of the longest FPSes ever made, especially since it is so replayable.
8) Deus Ex is technically better but there is not much difference between the two. Half-Life's power loader may be the best animated character in either game but since you only see it once for about 10 seconds it doesn't really matter much.

You might want to read up a bit on why Deus Ex is the greatest game ever made



 
can you get Deus Ex through Steam by any chance?

im finishing playing through Opposing Force now. its great. ill probably be playing Blue Shift afterwards. Gearbox is cool.
 
This thread will NEVER die I think =P. I have been considering Deus Ex, and for that price... consider me fucking tempted.
 
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