The Ep2 demo on XBL convinced me to buy the 360 version, meaning you should download it too and see for yourself. The controls are very smooth and responsive IMO, and the sensitivity is adjustable to your liking. I had already played through the PC version, but sometimes I like playing with a controller on a bigger screen.bdizzle said:^^^ LTTP Late to the Party
how is it with the 360/ps3 controller? i played hl2 on the pc when it first released and i loved it but i never beat it. i want to get it on a console, but im a little weary about how the game plays w/o a kb/m.
and which version is better? ps3 or 360?
Jaded Alyx said:HL2 Deathmatch isn't all that great. Getting killed by a flying filing cabinet or worse, a toilet, can be annoying![]()
perryfarrell said:Half-Life 2 is a smart game. The characters, the dialogue, the settings, the story... it all has a clever, updated feel to it. Makes it fun to interact with the world.
Gameplay-wise the game isn't perfect. The tedium of clear the room, progress, clear the next room, etc. can get a little old. Also, as somebody already pointed out, the guns aren't that great. Not all the enemies are equally compelling. But that's just nitpicking.
I guess I find the dialogue and characters very memorable, especially compared with what's on offer in most games today. Compare for instance the cheeseball pulp dialogue from Resident Evil 4 with Alix's lines from Half-Life 2. Night and day.
madmook said:No prob, and if I didn't make it clear, the 360 version is the superior one, especially from a technical standpoint. I am just looking into the PS3 version because I sit close to my consoles and the 360's dvd-drive is too fucking loud.
[This year's] holiday seasonRelix said:... when is EP 3 coming?
isamu said:What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?
It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.isamu said:OK here's the deal duderz:
I just got done playing HL2, HL2:EP1 and HL2:EP2(PC version of The Orango Box).
In a word, MARVELOUS!!!!!!!
Totally freakin awesome games! But man, some of those sections were just. plain. hard. Played them on normal, and don't even wanna THINK of playing them again on hard. Jesus, the part HL2 wherewas just major torture. But nothing....and I mean NOTHING folks, could prepare me for the asskicking I took onceyou gotta kill TWO freakin gunships at that military base sectionI defy ANYONE to tell me they didn't at least contemplate turning on GOD mode during this section!I got to the end of ep2 where you gotta defend the Silo base against something lime a dozen striders and FUCKLOAD of hunters!
For some genre-defining fps experiences, play NOLF 2 (Noone Lives Forever), or heck, even NOLF 1 for some really polished, awesome "earnest" fps action (it's actually comedy, story-wise, but the game design is not). Serious Sam: The Second Encounter for well-balanced but stupid, ballsy non-stop carnage. Max Payne 1/2 are third-person, but pretty high quality shooters. Ya know, the games that invented "bullet time".Also what FPS game would you guys recommend going to from here? I still gotta play play Portal but I hear it's 2 hours long or something :lol:
What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?
I agree by fixing HL2.TemplaerDude said:hl2 is pretty good. episode one kind of sucks. episode two is great.
I thought, since it's about old games, "Link to the Past".ckeur said:Seen it a lot, picked up on the meaning by context clues, but what is LTTP? Late to the ____ ?
isamu said:OK here's the deal duderz:
I just got done playing HL2, HL2:EP1 and HL2:EP2(PC version of The Orango Box).
In a word, MARVELOUS!!!!!!!
Totally freakin awesome games! But man, some of those sections were just. plain. hard. Played them on normal, and don't even wanna THINK of playing them again on hard. Jesus, the part HL2 wherewas just major torture. But nothing....and I mean NOTHING folks, could prepare me for the asskicking I took onceyou gotta kill TWO freakin gunships at that military base sectionI defy ANYONE to tell me they didn't at least contemplate turning on GOD mode during this section!I got to the end of ep2 where you gotta defend the Silo base against something lime a dozen striders and FUCKLOAD of hunters!
I beat them yesterday and boy, am I glad that's over! The Hunters are the most mind numbingly tedious enemies to kill in the whole series. They're just a stright PITA.
Anyway the games ran fairly well on my PC and I can safely say I am now a first person shooter convert! GoW didn't do it, Bioshock didn't do it, it was Half Life that's finally bitten me in the ass with the FPS bug.
I am now playing Half-Life 1:Source off steam....boy oh boy does this feel dated compared to 2 :lol: But despite that, you know what I can't help but notice? Just how smooth the game runs. I mean I am getting somewhere between 200 and 250fps and the animation is buttery smoooooth! Even when I was getting upwards of 100fps in HL2, it still didn't appear to look as buttery smooth as HL1 looks. Why is that? It makes me wonder if infact, our eyes can actually tell the difference in framerate beyond 60fps. I'm starting to believe so.
Anyway HL1 is pretty cool so far. Is it easier or harder than HL2?
Also what FPS game would you guys recommend going to from here? I still gotta play play Portal but I hear it's 2 hours long or something :lol:
What about any of the Quake games? Are they any good for single player? Doom 3? Rainbow 6: Vegas? S.W.A.T.? COD4? Unreal?
Mar_ said:If you really liked the HL series I'd recommend trying FEAR. It's very 'half lifey' but with horror elements.
Personally my favourite FPS of all time is DOOM 3. But that's a very unpopular opinion and most people hate it. I wouldn't recommend any of the Quake games either these days. Quake 2 is in my top 10 games of all time but not for the single player element. It's because I played it for 2 years multiplayer. Still unmatched if you ask me.
Something else to consider would be COD4. One of the best FPS games I've played for a long time. You'd have to be into the 'realistic' one shot equals death type of gameplay though. It gets pretty frustrating.
As far as the HL series and me are concerned. I recently finished Ep 1 and 2 myself. I really loved Ep 1 but thought Ep 2 was a little boring. The last section as well I thought was very badly designed. Surprising because everything else in the series is polished beyond belief.
So for me, I'd rate the entire series HL2 > Ep 1 >>>>>>> Ep 2.
bcn-ron said:It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.
Fall back early. Take advantage of the respawning ammo. Hunters go down quick with rockets. Kill them first, they'll prevent you from attaching the thingies to the striders.
I agree with the general sentiment though. The single-player content in that package is sooooo good.For some genre-defining fps experiences, play NOLF 2 (Noone Lives Forever), or heck, even NOLF 1 for some really polished, awesome "earnest" fps action (it's actually comedy, story-wise, but the game design is not). Serious Sam: The Second Encounter for well-balanced but stupid, ballsy non-stop carnage. Max Payne 1/2 are third-person, but pretty high quality shooters. Ya know, the games that invented "bullet time".
Quake 2 is probably the best of the Quakes, and it becomes completely awesome after a few hours, but it starts quite slow and boring.
Doom 3 is more a house-of-horrors kind of simulated theme park ride. It's overall too easy and too repetitive to be really good. I say skip it.
You can skip Unreal as well. Unreal I didn't age well, doesn't have the benefit of being considered innovative anymore. The graphics and levels of AI and scripting were impressive when it was new, but it doesn't do much beyond that. It's okay, but not more. Unreal II on the other hand is complete garbage by any standards.
bcn-ron said:It's not hard once you died a few times, observing what happens, and then draw the right conclusions for your strategy.
Fall back early. Take advantage of the respawning ammo. Hunters go down quick with rockets. Kill them first, they'll prevent you from attaching the thingies to the striders.
isamu said:Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.
isamu said:Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?
isamu said:How about Far Cry?
isamu said:DuesEX?
isamu said:Mar and bcn-ron thanks for the replies you guys RAWQUE!
Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.
Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?
Any of you played S.W.A.T.? What do you think of it as a single player game?
How about Far Cry?
DuesEX?
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isamu said:The jumping physics are wierd. Why do I have to jump and duck at the same time to hop on a box/ledge/etc? That's retarded. I spent hours at this one part in the subway where you gotta jump onto and over these green boxes to get to these stairs, and was wondering why the fuck I couldn't hop on them, not knowing about the jump/duck combo routine. It's crap.
isamu said:I'm almost done with Half-Life 1. Turning out to be an awesome game so far with a couple of nagging issues:
I hate not being able to pick up object at ALL! That sucks! No gravity gun, no zoom, and no sprint button also suck.
Gun accuracy can be HORRIBLE at times(especially the SMG).
The jumping physics are wierd. Why do I have to jump and duck at the same time to hop on a box/ledge/etc? That's retarded. I spent hours at this one part in the subway where you gotta jump onto and over these green boxes to get to these stairs, and was wondering why the fuck I couldn't hop on them, not knowing about the jump/duck combo routine. It's crap.
OMFG OMFG OMFG the ladder physics...can you say, BROKEN!!!!!!!!!?????????? For the love of God please kill me now if I see another ladder I gotta climb down! Climbing down ladders in this game S-U-C-K-S RINO NUTS! Why the fuck can't I attach myself to the damn ladder instead of falling off the ledge and killing myself? Why isn't there a "connect to ladder" button like there is in HL2? If you tallied up the total figure representing the number of times I've fallen to my death instead climbing down a ladder properly, it'd be in the 1000's :lol
The AI is pretty stupid sometimes. I've gone right up to guards and blasted them right in the face with my shotty. :lol Fun shit.
Other than those issues I'm loving it
I wonder if DeusEX is better than HL1.
isamu said:Mar and bcn-ron thanks for the replies you guys RAWQUE!
Regarding FEAR....Y'know it's interesting, I considered playing it before HL2, but while reading impressions from people here my interest started waning. People were complaining that FEAR suffers from an insane lack of variety of levels and environments. Is it true the entire game takes place in a wherehouse? WTF is that shit? :lol I'd like to at least go outside or to a different building! People were also saying the game suffers from tons of repetition and that the enemies are all the same. Is there any truth to this? Please clarify and give me a good reason to play FEAR. I want to play it, but not if it suffers from those issues.
Also how about that other game called STALKER? It's fairly new and appears to have gotten good reviews but I hear it suffers greatly from too many bugs, broken gameplay and a sandbox environment that can get fairly boring if not confusing. Are there any truth to these rumors/complaints?
Any of you played S.W.A.T.? What do you think of it as a single player game?
How about Far Cry?
DuesEX?
It definitely is.isamu said:I wonder if DeusEX is better than HL1.
szaromir said:It definitely is.
I'd say it was. It had big levels with multiple ways to play through them, amazing "interactive" story and so on. That game was and is full of awesome. Come on, do you remember when you went into a female restroom and after a while someone told you that you shouldn't do that?:lolIronicallyTwisted said:Nah. It holds up better, but it wasn't better back then.
Arch said:I enjoyed both FEAR and Far Cry. Both games are very different than Half Life though as their focus is more on the gunplay than the story/atmosphere/puzzles. FEAR's gunplay is especially visceral and engaging, although the environments can get repetitive. Far Cry is as open as you're going to get out of an FPS and still holds up very well IMO.
Assuming you don't have a 360, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 are also must have's.
I haven't played Deus Ex, but from what I hear, it's amazing and you must play it now.
1) Deus Ex is technically superior but Half-Life has cleaner and more consistent art direction. Since the visuals for both games can be upgraded it is pretty much a wash.isamu said:I already played Bioshock on the 360. To me, that game is perfection. I mean seriously....I loved loved LOVED Biosock to D-E-A-T-H. It was unbelievably awesome, and I'm sorry but rips HL2 and its episodes a new one in my opinion. I was going to start my FPS journey on the PC by replaying Bioshock again on the PC, but changed my mind at the last minute and decided on the orango box instead, since I never played any of the HL games before. But now I'm tempted to go back and re-play Biosock again for the 4th time.
These varying opinions on DeusEX has me intrigued. Let me ask a few questions about that game in comparison to HL1.:
1)Which has better graphics between DeausEX and HL1?
2)Which came out first?
3)Does DeusEX use the HL1 or HL2 engine?
4)Can you pick up objects and throw them at people?
5)Which game is more intuitive?
6)Which game is harder?
7)Which game is longer?
8)Which game has better animation?


Yes. It's only $10 in the US.Daigoro said:can you get Deus Ex through Steam by any chance?