LTTP: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (The Movie)

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My LTTP Thread on the Previous Movie:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487009

Some of you won't be clicking the link so I'll explain a bit of something. Over the years I've kept myself out of any involvement with the Harry Potter phenomena. I read the first book years and years ago and it did not interest me enough to pick up any of the others.

So now, in order to make up for the sins of my past, my SO has decided that we're going to go through each movie in order via Netflix. Last week I watched "And the Chamber of Secrets" and this week I watched:

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Where do I start with this one?

The tonal shift in Azkaban is dramatic and sudden, a bit like the shift that every young person experiences while growing up. The best parts, so far, of the Harry Potter films are watching an 11 year old become a 12 year old become a 13 year old and all the drama an adolescent and famous Wizard growing up and going through puberty brings. At 13 I got my first few little facial hairs and was so proud.

At 13, the Harry Potter movies grew a full manly fucking beard. Riker am cry.

We start, as always with the Evil Family and a set-up for Harry to royally fuck up their evening. The Dursleys seem more somber than before and less comical. The two parents obviously fear Harry and don't seem to be quite as imposing as before. Someone is visiting and Harry hates them and it becomes apparent why very quickly. This scene, if done in the style of the two previous movies, would have been raucous and colorful and bright but here it's done very ominously. Harry is portrayed as much as the boy wizard as he is the misunderstood teenaged Stephen King character and eventually goes full Carrie on the visitor, making her float out of the house as the other's watch, helpless.

I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't laugh once during the scene. It was treated with a seriousness that made it more scary than comical. I like this.

We leave behind Evil Family as Harry runs away and is picked up by a magical bus that takes him to a magical hotel where the minister of magic tells Harry that it's totally cool that he blew up his Aunt and they made a bunch of muggles forget it ever happened.

Oh and Ron and Hermione happen to be here too.

And we get the first instance of someone not being a selfish prick in the entirety of the movies so far as Ron's dad actually WARNS HARRY of danger! Not in some vague poetic way either (I'm looking at your Dumbledork) but in a very specific "Sirius Black wants to KILL YOU and here's what he looks like" way.

Thanks Ron's dad, you're a good adult.

These scenes are filmed with a weight that was completely absent in the other movies. Everything feels more real.

They they ride a train and Potter passes out when one of the Azkaban guards assaults him and this brings me to the major fucking problem with this movie... well one of them.

These damn Guards fly around and assault Harry TWICE with zero reason and nobody fucking does a thing and everyone acts like it's perfectly fine. Are there no laws in the wizarding world that say:

"A dementor may not suck the soul out of some kid no matter how traumatic his past may be and if one were too they will be summarily fired."

Can you fire a dementor? I bet Dumbledore could fire one. But no, he's completely cool with one of his students being assaulted on the way to his school by one of the very creatures that now surround his school. Sounds totally reasonable. At least there is a very spine tingling little chorus number accompanied by some equally chilling music to introduce us to Hogwarts this year.

"Something wicked this way comes." indeed, Hogwarts looks amazing in this movie if I do say so myself.

Oh by the way on the train we meet the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher, Prof. Lupin (Which I assumed was a reference to Lupin the 3rd, I was FUCKING WRONG.) And it turns out he is their first capable and prepared Dark Arts teacher so that means he's guaranteed to not make it through the movie. His teaching style is one that helps the kids way more than any other teacher I've seen at Hogwarts.

Quidditch actually matters this time because Harry's assaulted once again, his house loses but nobody cares; they are worried about Sirius Black. The people in this school are actually worried about something! The teachers actually discuss how to protect the children instead of whispering in a corner and letting the children fend for themselves. It's a welcome bit of actual story telling that, again, was completely absent before. These characters that they've been telling stories about take on a new and refreshing bit of realism. Both the main three children (probably due to them aging and growing into their acting a bit) and the teachers. It feels like they're actually running a school with a mad killer on the loose.

There's a bit of exposition about Harry's parents untimely and messy death that's done in an okay way which get's Harry all emo and sets up the climax of the story and once the story starts going it does not stop.

To wrap it up:

Harry gets a map that shows where everyone is and show a dude who's dead! Harry tells Lupin and Lupin flips out! Hagrids bird-horse dies! Ron is kidnapped by a big black dog and dragged off to a haunted house! SIRIUS BLACK IS INSIDE THE HOUSE!

Wait, Sirius Black is fucking Gary Oldman? That's awesome. And he's Gary Oldman's all over the movie and everyone loves it. Back to the summary!

Lupin and Black are working together to kill Peter Pettegrew who is Ron's rat! (Ya, I didn't see that coming.) Peter escapes because Lupin is a fucking idiot and decided to attack Peter on the one night of the month that this is a bad idea! Seriously Lupin get it fucking together man.

He spends however long dealing with his werewolf curse and 12 years plotting to get back at Peter for betraying the Potters and FINALLY when 12 years of planning come together and his friend Sirius Black escapes from being falsely imprisoned in the worst place ever where he was tortured to the point of insanity and they HAVE Peter right where they want him and they decide to spring their trap THE ONLY NIGHT LUPIN CAN FUCK IT UP.

Good idea dudes, no wonder nobody can stop Voldemort you're all the wizarding equivalent of the Three Stooges.

So Peter escapes and Sirius is captured and is going to die. But then this climax continues because of Hermione. (Not like that sickos) She sends her and Harry back in time and saves everyone lives (Including Hagrids bird-horse) proving that this movie should be called 'Hermione Grainger and the Reason We Should Study in School'.

...

This was a fantastic movie. The new director knows how to tell a coherent story and the better direction pulls a better job out of EVERYONE involved. It's easily one of my favorite fantasy movies of all time and I can only hope that the rest of the movies can even hold a candle to this one.

I'm going to be sad huh?
 
This was a fantastic movie. The new director knows how to tell a coherent story and the better direction pulls a better job out of EVERYONE involved. It's easily one of my favorite fantasy movies of all time and I can only hope that the rest of the movies can even hold a candle to this one.

I'm going to be sad huh?

7 pt 2 is pretty damn good. The rest are when they get competent directors. 4-6 are a bit slow, but much better than the crappy second one. I would say 3 is the best, but 7 pt 2 is very very close.
 
Stop now. You have just seen the apex of the series, and the remaining 5 films will only lower your opinion of the series.
 
Stop now. You have just seen the apex of the series, and the remaining 5 films will only lower your opinion of the series.

Well, I actually just viewed the 4th movie but I didn't want to pull back the curtain on that. I'll be doing the thread later next week but yes... the 4th movie did not live up.
 
The only one I care to watch again. Perfectly captured the Hogwarts atmosphere, ditched the overly twee tone the first two, perfect Dumbledore, better cinematography, super score, it's just a great movie. You can tell they pulled out all the stops after the two turkeys that came before (COS made $50m less than PS!).

PoA feels like Harry Potter, not some overly twee interpretation of it like the first two films.
 
It was well made but the story wasn't all that coherent. I hadn't read the books at the time and a bunch of things happened that went totally unexplained, like why the hell Harry thought his dead father showed up to save him.

I actually thought it set a bad precedent for the movies to be less of a standalone adaptation and more of a companion to the books. Steve Kloves was a really terrible choice to adapt the movies.
 
The only one I care to watch again. Perfectly captured the Hogwarts atmosphere, ditched the overly twee tone the first two, perfect Dumbledore, better cinematography, super score, it's just a great movie. You can tell they pulled out all the stops after the two turkeys that came before (COS made $50m less than PS!).

PoA feels like Harry Potter, not some overly twee interpretation of it like the first two films.

PoA is the lowest grossing of the entire series though...

I think people were weirded out by the tonal shift and probably some of the loose adaptation aspects of the film. My fav of the series regardless
 
It was well made but the story wasn't all that coherent. I hadn't read the books at the time and a bunch of things happened that went totally unexplained, like why the hell Harry thought his dead father showed up to save him.

I actually thought it set a bad precedent for the movies to be less of a standalone adaptation and more of a companion to the books. Steve Kloves was a really terrible choice to adapt the movies.

The problems I had weren't to do with his dad. Why wouldn't a 13 year old wizard think his Dad was somehow coming back to save him? I had a problem with everyone being cool with Harry being assaulted by Dementors and Lupin being a complete idiot about his condition.

how long did it take you to figure out lupin's secret?

A while cause I kept associating 'Lupin' with Lupin the 3rd! It wasn't until they were like 'OMG HE'S A WEREWOLF'.

My SO made fun of me for that.

Though I TOTALLY called Peter betraying the Potters and not Sirius.
 
The 3rd was probably my favorite. Be warned the 4th movie is the worst and is a bastardization of the book. 5th and 6th are okay, not great nor poor. The 7th and 8th were pretty good, imo though.
 
I need to see these movies from the 3rd on.

I saw the first two when they first came out and remember most of the basics. Would you recommend jumping into the third movie or should I rewatch the first two?
 
The 3rd was probably my favorite. Be warned the 4th movie is the worst and is a bastardization of the book. 5th and 6th are okay, not great nor poor. The 7th and 8th were pretty good, imo though.

I have to admit, this one actually made me want to read the book a bit. Not enough for me to pick it up... but I felt the urge!

I need to see these movies from the 3rd on.

I saw the first two when they first came out and remember most of the basics. Would you recommend jumping into the third movie or should I rewatch the first two?

As someone who's seen the first three movies VERY recently.

Watch the first one again since it's... watchable. Skip the second one.
 
This really is the best of them all, even if I think that 7.1 (despite the pacing problem) and 7.2 are pretty good. Oh well, you will get there (AND POST THEM, I'm loving reading your impressions :D). They all have something that make them worth watching. Even if for a single scene. You will know what I mean.

About the forth one. Yeah, you will be disappointed somehow. But if you were reading the books it would be a LOT more disappointing because they wasted so many good things. t_t The quidditch world cup and the triwizard cup are such nice events, even if they are there, they could have done so much more. Oh well... I will let you watch it. I kind of like it now that I'm thinking about it.

So, you asked about the dementors. Well, thats what you're missing by not reading the books. There are a lot of rules involved on the relationship between Hogwarts and the Ministry and Azkaban that specific year. The security was all fucked up, and they had to choose a efficient method to stop Sirius, so they chose the Azkaban guards, from where he had just escaped. It was actually the best choice if you think about it from their perspective (sad though that they didn't know that he was an animagus and dementors can't detect them while in animal form :P). It happens that dementors can't be controlled. They can be repelled by the Expectro Patronum charm, but thats it. There was not much Dumbledore could do, as he even warns everyone that they won't think twice before attacking the students, thats why they have to stay in the school, etc. Anyway, there are lots of explaining in the book. You really should read them. They are awesome. The first one is actually the worst to read, but once you are engaged with the story you just cant stop. :)
 
The problems I had weren't to do with his dad. Why wouldn't a 13 year old wizard think his Dad was somehow coming back to save him? I had a problem with everyone being cool with Harry being assaulted by Dementors and Lupin being a complete idiot about his condition.
It just came out of nowhere in the movie. I had to ask someone who read the book and they said "Oh yeah in the books the patronus is an animal made of light not an energy weapon and in the book Harry learns that his father's patronus is a stag so when he's saved at the end by a stag patronus he thinks it's his dad."
 
I knew you would like this one. It's much more mature compared to the first two which you seemed to have issues with. It's also my favorite as I'm a sucker for time travel.
 
Yeah, I hate 4. As important as the moments are in 4, they don't even feel like they're really happening because of how poorly paced it is. You feel none of the weight of what occurs. Really like 5-7p.2 actually. I think 7p.1 has a cool on the road feel, and some nice tense moments that things have to resolve, 5 was a little weaker with some awesome highs, and 6 and 7p.2 are both solid fun movies. Good series, that started weak, looked in parrel in the middle, and somehow pulled it together. 3 is probably the best, and pretty much lays a groundmap for the rest of the series.
 
This really is the best of them all, even if I think that 7.1 (despite the pacing problem) and 7.2 are pretty good. Oh well, you will get there (AND POST THEM, I'm loving reading your impressions :D). They all have something that make them worth watching. Even if for a single scene. You will know what I mean.

About the forth one. Yeah, you will be disappointed somehow. But if you were reading the books it would be a LOT more disappointing because they wasted so many good things. t_t The quidditch world cup and the triwizard cup are such nice events, even if they are there, they could have done so much more. Oh well... I will let you watch it. I kind of like it now that I'm thinking about it.

So, you asked about the dementors. Well, thats what you're missing by not reading the books. There are a lot of rules involved on the relationship between Hogwarts and the Ministry and Azkaban that specific year. The security was all fucked up, and they had to choose a efficient method to stop Sirius, so they chose the Azkaban guards, from where he had just escaped. It was actually the best choice if you think about it from their perspective (sad though that they didn't know that he was an animagus and dementors can't detect them while in animal form :P). It happens that dementors can't be controlled. They can be repelled by the Expectro Patronum charm, but thats it. There was not much Dumbledore could do, as he even warns everyone that they won't think twice before attacking the students, thats why they have to stay in the school, etc. Anyway, there are lots of explaining in the book. You really should read them. They are awesome. The first one is actually the worst to read, but once you are engaged with the story you just cant stop. :)

Thanks for the explanation about the dementors! It was very odd to me that nothing of consequence would happen to them. Is it ever explained what exactly they are in the movies or should I just read the book to find out?

And thanks for enjoying my impressions! It helps me to digest a movie if I write down what I thought about it.

I knew you would like this one. It's much more mature compared to the first two which you seemed to have issues with. It's also my favorite as I'm a sucker for time travel.

It just seemed that the comical and campy style of the first two were not always appropriate for the story. The first one was able to ride on the strength of all the new stuff being introduced but the second one just fell flat and floundered about. It was awful.

This third one was much more consistent in everything and was miles ahead of the others.

Yeah, I hate 4. As important as the moments are in 4, they don't even feel like they're really happening because of how poorly paced it is. You feel none of the weight of what occurs. Really like 5-7p.2 actually. I think 7p.1 has a cool on the road feel, and some nice tense moments that things have to resolve, 5 was a little weaker with some awesome highs, and 6 and 7p.2 are both solid fun movies. Good series, that started weak, looked in parrel in the middle, and somehow pulled it together. 3 is probably the best, and pretty much lays a groundmap for the rest of the series.

It feels like there's an actual story now and not just a series of circumstances that happen to lead up to and ending that has nothing to do with the rest of the movie.

It just came out of nowhere in the movie. I had to ask someone who read the book and they said "Oh yeah in the books the patronus is an animal made of light not an energy weapon and in the book Harry learns that his father's patronus is a stag so when he's saved at the end by a stag patronus he thinks it's his dad."

I've always associated Golden Stags with magic and shit because of Dragonlance, so I didn't find it too odd. I didn't even question my SO about it and she didn't feel it was worth mentioning.

In my head I said: "Powerful magic spell being cast by someone? OF COURSE they're riding around on a Golden Stag. And Harry really is just a whiny kid deep down so of course he thought it was his dad."
 
Only movie of the series to show any real artistry. Love the Boggart scene.

There were very few wasted shots in this movie like there were in the first two. Nothing broke from the tone of overall somberness, even the comical bus scene.
 
Thanks for the explanation about the dementors! It was very odd to me that nothing of consequence would happen to them. Is it ever explained what exactly they are in the movies or should I just read the book to find out?

Nah, they never fully explain it. But again, even Rowling never said that much about them in the books. Here is how Lupin describe them in the book:

"Dementors are among the foulest creatures that walk this earth. They infest the darkest, filthiest places, they glory in decay and despair, they drain peace, hope, and happiness out of the air around them... Get too near a Dementor and every good feeling, every happy memory will be sucked out of you. If it can, the Dementor will feed on you long enough to reduce you to something like itself...soulless and evil. You will be left with nothing but the worst experiences of your life."
Dementors hold no true loyalty, except to whomever can provide them with the most people to feed off. They cannot be destroyed, though their numbers can be limited if the conditions in which they multiply are reduced, implying that they do die off eventually.

Read this page if you need any backstory about them (how they joined the ministry, etc): http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Dementor

Watch for spoilers on the Harry encounters with dementors tab though.

I really suggest going to the wikia if you feel lost after watching a movie and are not willing to read the book. It helps a lot. And the details are VERY interesting. :)
 
Nah, they never fully explain it. But again, even Rowling never said that much about them in the books. Here is how Lupin describe them in the book:

Read this page if you need any backstory about them (how they joined the ministry, etc): http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Dementor

Watch for spoilers on the Harry encounters with dementors tab though.

I really suggest going to the wikia if you feel lost after watching a movie and are not willing to read the book. It helps a lot. And the details are VERY interesting. :)

That doesn't not sound like any way to rehabilitate a prisoner!

Thanks for the link.
 
That doesn't not sound like any way to rehabilitate a prisoner!

Sounds pretty similar to the prison system in the US.

Lupin and Black are working together to kill Peter Pettegrew who is Ron's rat! (Ya, I didn't see that coming.) Peter escapes because Lupin is a fucking idiot and decided to attack Peter on the one night of the month that this is a bad idea! Seriously Lupin get it fucking together man.

He spends however long dealing with his werewolf curse and 12 years plotting to get back at Peter for betraying the Potters and FINALLY when 12 years of planning come together and his friend Sirius Black escapes from being falsely imprisoned in the worst place ever where he was tortured to the point of insanity and they HAVE Peter right where they want him and they decide to spring their trap THE ONLY NIGHT LUPIN CAN FUCK IT UP.
Clarification: Lupin didn't plot with Black. He always believed Black was the betrayer, and Pettigrew had been killed. He spotted Pettigrew on the map, immediately realized the truth, and came after them.

So yes, it still wasn't super smart, but it was more "holy shit this dude's still alive, my old friend isn't really a murderer, oh and Harry and co are all heading out there crap crap crap"
 
Yeah, this one's easily the best in the series. But yeah, like everyone has said, 5-7.2 are all solid entries.

I think you will probably be disappointed with 7.1 though, unless you watch 7.2 immediately after it.
 
AS a movie, its probably the best, but a part of the story telling, but so much. Set the precedent to skip a shit load of stuff. Basically from this movie forward, if you didn't read the books, you might as well read the back cover of the movie because that's about as much as you'll understand.
 
I really liked the things where Harry got hit with the seed and Hermione seeing herself in the forest. I know it's simple and sort of comic relief, but I like it.

Also the 5th is good because that's when you can stop feeling bad for finding Emma Watson attractive.
 
Sounds pretty similar to the prison system in the US.

I went to Juvi when I was 11 for like, 5 hours and never once had my soul sucked out.

Yeah, this one's easily the best in the series. But yeah, like everyone has said, 5-7.2 are all solid entries.

I think you will probably be disappointed with 7.1 though, unless you watch 7.2 immediately after it.

Well, we're watching them through Netflix, but maybe for 7.1 and 7.2 we can get both of them and watch them back to back.

I'm honestly excited for the next one. (Have already watched 4 by this point, will be giving impressions later.) Azkaban may have actually made me a fan of the series, we'll see if the ones after it can kill my fandom.
 
I really liked the things where Harry got hit with the seed and Hermione seeing herself in the forest. I know it's simple and sort of comic relief, but I like it.

Also the 5th is good because that's when you can stop feeling bad for finding Emma Watson attractive.

And the first time that you notice that Bonnie Wright is attractive.
 
Sounds pretty similar to the prison system in the US.


Clarification: Lupin didn't plot with Black. He always believed Black was the betrayer, and Pettigrew had been killed. He spotted Pettigrew on the map, immediately realized the truth, and came after them.

So yes, it still wasn't super smart, but it was more "holy shit this dude's still alive, my old friend isn't really a murderer, oh and Harry and co are all heading out there crap crap crap"

Oh that makes more sense! Yes, I must have blacked out the part where Lupin didn't know Sirius wasn't a bad guy. Still, not the best move on his part to go out there and put everyone's life in danger instead of saving everyone's life.
 
Serious question: I've never read or seen any Harry Potter, although I don't feel like reading the books. Are the movies worth watching? Sometimes I just feel in the mood for a long fantasy-adventure movie series but HP always came off as too kiddy for me.
 
I really liked the things where Harry got hit with the seed and Hermione seeing herself in the forest. I know it's simple and sort of comic relief, but I like it.

Also the 5th is good because that's when you can stop feeling bad for finding Emma Watson attractive.

marrec said:
And the climax continues because of Hermione!

It's getting less and less awkward as the movies go on, considering she's such a beautiful woman now.

Serious question: I've never read or seen any Harry Potter, although I don't feel like reading the books. Are the movies worth watching? Sometimes I just feel in the mood for a long fantasy-adventure movie series but HP always came off as too kiddy for me.

I'm having a good time with them so far, I'm in the same boat as you really.

The second one is bad... but there's some watchable stuff in them.
 
Easily the best of the movies. Dat Cuaron.

Might also be my favorite book. I can never decide. It's definitely not the first or last one though.
 
PoA is the lowest grossing of the entire series though...

I think people were weirded out by the tonal shift and probably some of the loose adaptation aspects of the film. My fav of the series regardless

It was the lowest grossing because it followed the dreadful COS. Reaction to POA was excellent and is reflected in the box office for GOF.
 
As I recall, the movie does a lousy job of actually explaining who made the map. Moony=Lupin, Wormtail=Pettigrew, Padfoot=Sirius, Prongs=James Potter
 
Stop now. You have just seen the apex of the series, and the remaining 5 films will only lower your opinion of the series.

This! I felt like they gave up at the end and just started making shit up as they go. Very low production value.
 
Serious question: I've never read or seen any Harry Potter, although I don't feel like reading the books. Are the movies worth watching? Sometimes I just feel in the mood for a long fantasy-adventure movie series but HP always came off as too kiddy for me.

It starts off as kiddy, but becomes less so as Harry ages. I would recommend reading the books first, though. Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix had to cut way too much out.
 
As I recall, the movie does a lousy job of actually explaining who made the map. Moony=Lupin, Wormtail=Pettigrew, Padfoot=Sirius, Prongs=James Potter

I think it's pretty damn obvious who made it but they probably should have thrown a line in there making it explicit. Cuaron hates exposition though, he prefers to show rather than tell. It really doesn't matter who made it anyway, it's just a detail.

Another thing I love about this movie is the credits. Beautifully done another example of how seriously they took this movie compared to the first two. They really had to pull out all the stops as audiences were lukewarm towards the Columbus films.
 
As I recall, the movie does a lousy job of actually explaining who made the map. Moony=Lupin, Wormtail=Pettigrew, Padfoot=Sirius, Prongs=James Potter

I totally guessed to my SO that Pappa Potter made the map and she was like 'How'd you know?!' then went on to explain why they made it and stuff.

I understand WHY they left it out of the movie and it's actually better without it, but it does make me want to read the book.
 
Serious question: I've never read or seen any Harry Potter, although I don't feel like reading the books. Are the movies worth watching? Sometimes I just feel in the mood for a long fantasy-adventure movie series but HP always came off as too kiddy for me.

Serious answer: the first two are kid-in-a-candy-store magic world stuff. The third is amazing, the fourth weak, and the rest pretty decent. I'd say 5/8 of them are pretty good movies.

It can't hurt to at least try them. I'm going to guess that if you're not a fan of "kiddy" stuff, you might not enjoy the first two that much. But by that time, you've gotten to the good part. ;)
 
It's my favorite of the movies. It has the best visuals, the best score and the best story. And it's just a joy to watch.
 
It's my favorite of the movies. It has the best visuals, the best score and the best story. And it's just a joy to watch.

It's also the first movie that doesn't realllly have a Big Bad in the sense of 'Lets uncover the clues until we find out who's behind these wacky events!' kind of way. You could say Peter is the villain, but the antagonist in this movie is really the Wizard bureaucracy.
 
The best movie between the two worst ones


Fans will say the 3rd one is bad since it doesn't follow the book like the first 2, but it's easily the best movie experience of all 8 of them. 6th one is right up there for being really good as well
 
It was the lowest grossing because it followed the dreadful COS. Reaction to POA was excellent and is reflected in the box office for GOF.

Maybe so. My social circle seemed to dislike PoA immensely, simply because it changed many elements from the book, so I just sort of assumed the reaction to the film from HP fans was more subdued.
 
The best movie between the two worst ones


Fans will say the 3rd one is bad since it doesn't follow the book like the first 2, but it's easily the best movie experience of all 8 of them. 6th one is right up there for being really good as well

I had a coworker once that argued that point with me. She HATED the third movie because it changed the book so much, while I loved the third movie but had not read the book. She stated that if I never read the book, I had no right to criticize the movie. A bullshit point, to which I told her that I have every right to criticize it as a movie, but no right to criticize it as an adaptation. I then pointed out to her that by her logic, her lack of comic book reading left her no place to criticize any comic book film.
 
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