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LTTP: Inglorious Basterds - Quentin's Best Movie?

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RELIGHT

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I wouldn't say its as good as Pulp Fiction, but its great. The ending is a bit weak but it has one of the best villains in cinema in the past 20 years.
 

phanphare

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I wouldn't say its as good as Pulp Fiction, but its great. The ending is a bit weak but it has one of the best villains in cinema in the past 20 years.

the ending is one of the best scenes imo

"nah, I don't think so. more like chewed out. I've been chewed out before."
 

Game4life

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Django Unchained was such a disappointment compared to Inglorious. Everything about Django seemed to be attempts to desperately measure up to Inglorious and fall short. Pretty poor humor and Christoph Waltz trying to recreate his magic in Inglorious etc.. Ugh.. I hope Hateful 8 is a return to form for Tarantino and Django was just an aberration.
 

Demoskinos

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I enjoy the majority of his films but Reservoir Dogs is still his best IMO. What he was able to do with so little in that film is still pretty amazing.

Also, that Mexican Standoff ending is still fantastic.
 

Jacob

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I've liked all of Tarantino's films (even Death Proof in its own way) but Pulp Fiction and IB are definitely my favorites. I go back and forth between the two.
 

JeffZero

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Definitely his best. It's the only Tarantino flick I've got in my personal top ten, and it's very well-positioned in there.
 
Inglorious Basterds has Tarantino's best scene (Chapter 1).

Pulp Fiction is his most influential film.

Death Proof is his most forgettable film.

Reservoir Dogs is his first film.

Kill Bill is his most fun film.

Django Unchained is his most indulgent and messy film.

And Jackie Brown is his best film.
 
Inglorious Basterds? Its better than Death Proof.. generally a good film.. but Django was better.

I know its only a few years whereas its been 21 years since Pulp Fiction came out, but I think eventually Django will be considered a classic.
 

Switch Back 9

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The opening scene, the restaurant scene, and the bar scene are some of the most tense scenes put to film. Absolutely masterfully crafted.
I whole-heartedly agree. I love the entire movie but those scenes in particular are just incredible filmmaking.
 
Pulp Fiction edges it out for me still, but Inglorious Basterds is definitely one of his best in my opinion. Great performances, excellent use of language, and a really great mix between over-the-top and gritty violence, as well as caricature and humanization.
 

Mossybrew

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Suffered the same problem as Kill Bill and Django - just dragged on too long. He has these awesome ideas and setpieces and just can't edit this shit down to the mean and lean films they should be IMO.
 
Not to get into it but the love Django gets puzzles me. It's dwindling, not unexpectedly, but the last 30 minutes or so was such a mess.

I think it is fantastic, but horribly misunderstood by a lot of the audience watching it. When I was in theaters, people were cheering during the baseball bat kill. Seriously, wtf
That is my favorite scene of the film. Gruesome, funny, mixed sympathy and revulsion for both the Nazis and the Basterds. Eli Roth's dramatic entrance followed by the beating. I can't even think of the words to describe the beating, but it was perfect. Definitely weird thing to cheer for, considering how grim it was and the "Bravery" delivery immediately preceding it.
 

Zeshile

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Pulp Fiction and django are his best in my opinion. Followed very closely by kill bill vol 2 and 1. Then probably IB.

The first time I saw it, I thought it was amazing. Unfortunately though, it just didn't hold up like the others under repeat viewings. The best moments are all spread out among some extremely slow and boring parts that after you've seen the movie once, serve no purpose. Not to mention the uselessness of several of the characters.

I don't want anyone to think I don't like it, I do. I just feel like it has issues.
 

KorrZ

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It's definitely up there. Ultimately I think Pulp Fiction is still his best movie (or at least the most memorable for me) but Inglorious Basterds is a close second. As everyone has said, the bar scene is top fucking notch.
 

ruxtpin

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Not to get into it but the love Django gets puzzles me. It's dwindling, not unexpectedly, but the last 30 minutes or so was such a mess.

That is my favorite scene of the film. Gruesome, funny, mixed sympathy and revulsion for both the Nazis and the Basterds. Eli Roth's dramatic entrance followed by the beating. I can't even think of the words to describe the beating, but it was perfect. Definitely weird thing to cheer for, considering how grim it was and the "Bravery" delivery immediately preceding it.

I'm almost the complete opposite. There are some awesome scenes in IG, but I guess the over-the-top gratuitous violence sort-of distracted from what Tarantino was going for? I donno - it's like, I get that I'm supposed to be disgusted by the Basterds because they're not much better than the Nazis; but there's no subtlety to the violence in IG.

I think back to stuff like Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs and the violence takes place right after the camera cuts away (i.e. needle in the chest or ear getting cut off, respectively). The audience is still "ohhh ewww," but it's the audience's imagination filling in what's not shown. In IG, however there's no subtlety to the violence; QT seems to relish in the shot of a head getting smashed in (I realize it's a film and escapism, but I guess I can't separate from reality completely). And I understand that IG is a completely different genre than the aforementioned films, but even after watching it multiple times I just feel revulsion for the supposed "good guys" and the "bad guys."

I've got the blu-ray in my library, but it's not a film that I find myself watching for enjoyment. Then again, I'm pretty much that way with all war movies; I find them emotionally draining, but perhaps that's what QT was going for (and completely reveling in it)? If that's the case, then I guess he succeeded completely.
 
At the very least, it's my favourite Tarantino movie coming straight after one of my 2nd least fave QT films (Death Proof, ugh).

IB has great performances, great cinematography, fantastic cast and of course, Herr Waltz.

And

Bongiorno.
 
I'm almost the complete opposite. There are some awesome scenes in IG, but I guess the over-the-top gratuitous violence sort-of distracted from what Tarantino was going for? I donno - it's like, I get that I'm supposed to be disgusted by the Basterds because they're not much better than the Nazis; but there's no subtlety to the violence in IG.

I think back to stuff like Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs and the violence takes place right after the camera cuts away (i.e. needle in the chest or ear getting cut off, respectively). The audience is still "ohhh ewww," but it's the audience's imagination filling in what's not shown. In IG, however there's no subtlety to the violence; QT seems to relish in the shot of a head getting smashed in (I realize it's a film and escapism, but I guess I can't separate from reality completely). And I understand that IG is a completely different genre than the aforementioned films, but even after watching it multiple times I just feel revulsion for the supposed "good guys" and the "bad guys."

I've got the blu-ray in my library, but it's not a film that I find myself watching for enjoyment. Then again, I'm pretty much that way with all war movies; I find them emotionally draining, but perhaps that's what QT was going for (and completely reveling in it)? If that's the case, then I guess he succeeded completely.
The lack of subtlty of the violence was in that scene, without being over the top, was part of what impressed me. The music cuts out the second the beating starts and the violence is not stylized or lingered on overlong. If the camera had instead cut away, I think the revulsion would be diminished. We might be left feeling that we should be cheering with them, as we would saved the ugly reality of what is happening.

As to the movie overall, I would agree there's a certain amount of relish in violence. It's not something that bothered me though, for better or worse.
 

Duji

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I never understood why Hans choked out BVH in the movie. Esp since he wanted to broker a deal with the Basterds literally right after. Huh?
 
Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, and Inglourious Basterds are interchangeable as his best film(s). Any one of them could be #1, really. All are solid choices.

Anyone saying Django Unchained (seriously, with that 3rd act?) or Kill Bill...pfft.
 

Grzi

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Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, and Inglourious Basterds are interchangeable as his best film(s). Any one of them could be #1, really. All are solid choices.

Anyone saying Django Unchained (seriously, with that 3rd act?) or Kill Bill...pfft.

Django Unchained is his best movie.
There' I said it.
 
I had to watch Basterds twice before it clicked. Now, I love it. Had to do the same with Jackie Brown.

Tarantino made Pulp Fiction just too damn good. He can't top it.
 

Bear

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It's very good but I always felt that it was one of Tarantino's weaker movies. It had some very memorable scenes but some of the story's threads fell short of the others. I've warmed up to it over the years though, mainly because Waltz was absolutely phenomenal. He stole every scene he was in and gave one of the best performances in any of Tarantino's movies.

As for the best, I'd go with Pulp Fiction.
 
I genuinely think it's a masterpiece, and the most Tarantino film of all time. For it to be so vividly him, and so fucking stunning, is great.

It looks incredible. It's idiosyncratic. It tries things no other mainstream director would dare. The cast are uniformly excellent. It gives no shits about whether people are alienated by all the languages. It has two exceptionally good long dialogue scenes. It's playful. It's joyful. Parts of it are horrific. It exhibits an unabiding love for cinema. It has Diane Kruger. Fassbender at his most charming. An extraordinary performance from Waltz. The sound editing in the first scene with that ticking clock. The sweep of the cinema at the end. Brad Pitt's Italian accent. That fucking braggadocio attitude with Pitt's final line.

It's fucking glourious.
 

kinoki

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Pulp Fiction is up and running for best movie ever made so nope. Inglorious Basterds is a really good movie, though. Exceptional in ways but flawed.
 
It's good, but not his best, To me his best is Reservoir dogs mostly due to the style used on that film, long shots with lots of dialogue, more akin to theater than film with fantastic acting talent
 
It's certainly one of his best, particularly at generating tension. I think Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, and Jackie Brown are all better, but IB isn't far behind.
 
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