LTTP: LOST

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show just keeps adding shit for the sake of cliffhangers and never follows up on half the shit.
 
show just keeps adding shit for the sake of cliffhangers and never follows up on half the shit.

"I dont understand. Isnt that just the saddest thing you ever heard?"

Although thats not to say that the show followed up every plot point, but half? Pleaseee

The only things that should have gone on more than they did was of course Walt and perhaps Libby because the cliffhanger made it a bigger deal than it was. Thats it really.
 
Its another way of saying, it got to hard for me to understand.

Before I hear bu bu bu

Why is it that I understand it all, if its such a clusterfuck?
Hardly, in fact, I predicted what was gonna happen before it did. Still hated the ending though. By clusterfuck I mean that it was a friggin' mess.
 
Hardly, in fact, I predicted what was gonna happen before it did. Still hated the ending though. By clusterfuck I mean that it was a friggin' mess.

You predicted what was gonna before it did. Brilliant. Theres no arguing that.

Again, if it was such a mess why did I understand it?
 
Except it didnt really.

It had flashes that were easily the best since the season 1 flashbacks that get alot better once you know what they truly are. For example you can understand better why Sayid lets go of Nadia, why Jack has a son etc.

The season 6 flashes had the emotional weight and great character storytelling of the flashbacks and the main character interaction of the flashforwards. They are the best flashes.(although not perfect)

Lots of effort was put into the sixth season, from the soundtrack and acting and directing and it probably was the most consistent season for special effects.

The final season was fine as you were watching it. The Jacob/Smokey and the final episode ruined both the mythology and the rest of season 6 along with making season 5 pointless.
 
The final season was fine as you were watching it. The Jacob/Smokey and the final episode ruined both the mythology and the rest of season 6 along with making season 5 pointless.

It didnt ruin anything. The only way it ruined it, is if it turned out to be different that what you wanted it. But then there was a very small chance you were gonna be happy if you took that attitude.

It didnt make season 5 pointless. "It only ends once, ANYTHING BEFORE THAT IS JUST PROGRESS"
 
Drealmcc0y reminds me of a friend from highschool still defending lost.. we were all watching the wire,sopranos and shit. Once you start watching good quality tv you can't see lost in the same light.
 
You predicted what was gonna before it did. Brilliant. Theres no arguing that.

Again, if it was such a mess why did I understand it?

It being a mess doesn't have to mean it was hard to understand, you know... You just come off as overly defensive and jumps to the conclusion that everyone who didn't like it just didn't understand it. I do think it lost quite a lot of quality in the later seasons, I still really liked them but it did seem like at some places they were just throwing in plot twists for the sake of having a plot twist, when they started doing that and constantly giving us plot twists they weren't nearly as exciting anymore as when you only got them every once in a while and were actually important to the story.
 
It was obviously planned from the beginning.

I still speculate if the original idea was that
they were all dead from the very beginning and they decided to change it as everyone guessed it. There was just so much pointing towards it and with the end they went for kind of the ending they had planned all along but with the twist of the other timeline/purgatory
.
 
It's not The Wire but I really enjoyed watching it. The characters are all really well done, and the mythos/mystery is really captivating even if the answers the show eventually gives are lacklustre. I think if you don't take the show too seriously and just enjoy it for the roller-coaster ride it is, it's really enjoyable.
 
The man in black bullshit is revealed like 13 seconds before the finale.

Certain aspects weren't planned from the start, that seems pretty clear,
the progression of O'Quinn's role in the show was very likely a direct result of him openly shitting on the show during the second season for example. But the ending, which they claimed was planned, almost certainly was. It's very predictable writing to circle back to the start of a piece of fiction, it happens constantly and
is very convincing evidence for it being the plan from the start.
 
I loved the S6 fanalie, not really for the content, rather the fact it solved something that had me frustrated from the start of the season.
For ages I was arguing in lost forums with what happened at the end of season 5.
I always stood for the theory that time traveling cannot change anything, the "whatever happened, happened" train of thought. It was fairly consistent throughout the show. Until the nuke. and the creation of the "flash sideways". Some took this as the nuke never happened in the original storyline, and thus created an alternate timeline.

I tried reasoning that the nuke didn't change anything. IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO HAPPEN.
my theory was::
the survivors would always travel to the past, the electromagnetism would always activate, and the nuke would always go off. The nuke's energy would suspend the electromagnetism, long enough for the dharma workers to create the swan, a miniature nuclear reactor or something, that suspends the electromagnetism every 108 minutes. made sense. The inital nuke's energy also propels the survivors back to the future.

My theory made perfect sense. but the TCC guys denyed it. thoes fools.
But then... alas. the flash sideways was introduced in the first episode. which made me frustrated. and juliet being alive! then dying was just a major anticlimax (<3 juliet)
I came to accept that my theory was right. and whatever happened didn't happen.


Then season 6 fanalie. The flash sideways was never an alternate timeline. I shat brix, SO DAMN HAPPY. And seeing juliet again was icing on top of the cake.
^that is also why i love lost. the gaps of information which get filled with my interperitation.
 
Lost is a very good show for the first 2 seasons. The trouble is the writers got way ahead of themselves. If you listen to the commentary of season 1, JJ Abrams tells the listeners that they had no idea
what was in the hatch, what the smoke was, what the island was for that matter.
. It's just a little disappointing the final seasons were just written with no real planning of future plot. Seasons 1 and 2 are just amazingly good though. I wish I could erase my memory just to experience them again.
 
Certain aspects weren't planned from the start, that seems pretty clear,
the progression of O'Quinn's role in the show was very likely a direct result of him openly shitting on the show during the second season for example. But the ending, which they claimed was planned, almost certainly was. It's very predictable writing to circle back to the start of a piece of fiction, it happens constantly and
is very convincing evidence for it being the plan from the start.

O Quinn didnt shit on the show in the 2nd season. He said he wasnt happy that Locke became someone who was no longer a hunter and becoming the button pusher from his old life.

But the writers told him that it was necessary for his character arc they had planned for him.... because you know the writers knew the whole thing with Locke being manipulated and being amenable for coercion.
 
First and last seasons were really enthralling I thought. There were highs and lows in between, and the last episode is amazing.
 
Lots of effort was put into the sixth season
Really, now.

John Locke's character arc is one of the finest ever seen on TV.
Ever seen by you, perhaps. You have a lot to look forward to!
Lost had no character arc worth a damn. It was hilariously bad in that respect as well.

"They made it up as they went along, even though I have no fucking clue if they did or not"
Maybe you don't, but it really isn't that hard to tell, based on the internal consistency (or lack thereof) of the show.

Why is it that I understand it all, if its such a clusterfuck?
You're delusional?


It was obviously planned from the beginning.
How they kept pretending to their audience they knew where they were going with all their mysteries ("unlike those other shows!")? I bet that was planned, yes.


The man in black bullshit is revealed like 13 seconds before the finale.
And makes no sense on many levels.


Certain aspects weren't planned from the start, that seems pretty clear,
the progression of O'Quinn's role in the show was very likely a direct result of him openly shitting on the show during the second season for example. But the ending, which they claimed was planned, almost certainly was. It's very predictable writing to circle back to the start of a piece of fiction, it happens constantly and
is very convincing evidence for it being the plan from the start.
I can buy them thinking relatively early on of ending the show on that particular shot of
Jack closing his eye
. Beyond that though...
Sorry, but you don't need much of a plan to end on that final shot. Especially on a show where nonsense happens all the damn time for no reason other than "it's in the script".
 
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She is the most beautiful woman in the world, I'm quite sure about that.
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Both Claire, Cassidy, Naomi and Boone were hotter than Kate on the show. Maybe even Ana Lucia too. Alright maybe it's just her terrible acting that made me rage too much to notice her body but she was really so fucking annoying.
 
Drealmcc0y reminds me of a friend from highschool still defending lost.. we were all watching the wire,sopranos and shit. Once you start watching good quality tv you can't see lost in the same light.

what does one TV show have to do with another? you just mentioned tweo different types of shows. and now erigu is here, let the party really start.
 
one of my favorite shows of all time, regardless of what they left out. It was just such a fun watch, especially talking with the community and other watchers between episodes.
 
Not a perfect show (other the the Wire is anything?), but I still love it because of how different it was from anything else I have ever seen.

Loved the characters, some of the stories and the music was just done perfectly.

The Constant is still one of the best things I have ever seen on tv. Hell in fact the whole 2nd half of season 3 was the highpoint of the show for me, though I stayed until the end.

edit: got confused for a second. I think the Constant was in season 4. But I did love the last half of season 3. I was amazed that they turned Charlie into a likable character at the end.
 
Great show, at least through season 3. Just pretend that the show was cancelled immediately after The Constant. That way, you can blame the network for ruining the show instead of the goddamned writers.
 
Still LOVE the show!!!!
I get why many people were disappointed by the Finale, but I still loved it. Perhaps it wasn't as Epic as it should have been but the twist at the end was genius, I started crying my eyes out the moment Jack figured out
they were all dead
right until the final LOST screen.

I also cried like a baby for about half an hour after they
killed Sun and Jin
. No TV show has ever done that to me.

I can't believe all the hate season 5 is getting in here!!!! I absolutely loved the
time traveling
 
Certainly not perfect, but definitely one of my absolute favorite shows, right next to The Wire and Friday Night Lights (with The Sopranos trailing by like a millimeter). I don't think any piece of fiction/entertainment/whatever affected me as much as Lost, especially the last episode.

Aint even gonna argue about no mo'.

Edit: God, the Lost episode threads were so much fun. All the good and bad.
 
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