Heavy's Sandvich
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Are you sure you played MGS3? Boring bosses?
QUE? You skipped the End?
QUE? You skipped the End?
Well it's the most shooting orientated game and yet a poor TPS at that.
But in that way, MGS2 is much less replayable, at least the final third. It's nearly an hour of cutscenes separating the Ray fight from the Solidus fight. The keycard sequence was the only weak point in MGS1's design. Well, other than the Rex fight.
Threedogg is my favorite MGS streamer.
2 > 1 > 3 > 4
There is a lot of wrong in OP, but this part is correct.
Loved MGS4. Loved the fan service. there's no way they could have done anything with it besides tie up loose ends. it's a sequel to MGS2, which ended by posing 3 billion questions. MGS3 only gave more questions. If you want a metal gear game that does it's own thing there's always revengance
Sometime after I beat TPP I will go back and re-play MGS3 and beat The End.
I've always been curious, why was MGS4 so highly regarded at first?
Back when MGS3 came out I felt disappointed. I recognized that mechanically, it was the best game in the series and the bosses were fun, but at the time I was really into the whole lore and story aspect, and I thought the story, apart from the last 2 hours, was really disappointing. The bosses played no real part in it and neither did your support team really. I loved all the backstage drama of your codec support in MGS1 and MGS2 had some of that too. In MGS3 they're really just there for information and comic relief, which is nice, but I expected more. Nothing really happens in the story over a long stretch of the game, and the pacing near the beginning was pretty bad.
Thankfully MGS4 came out and destroyed my interest in the overarching MGS plot. I could let go of my silly hang-ups and finally enjoy MGS3 for what it was. It's now my favorite game in the series.
MGS4? Gameplay? lol
This is stupid, it has BY FAR the best gameplay of the series. It's as large as mgs3, it just seems everyone runs through the areas or something. The cutscene to play ratio is just screwed up on the second half, it suffers from MGS2 syndrome. But the gameplay, absolutely sublime, one of the best games ever made.
Never mind the story. What's MGS4's gameplay like? On par with the others?
You can always skip the cutscenes breh. also MGS2 is way more replayable because you have so many more ways of tackling scenarios. In the first game the limited mechanics and simpler level design only gave you a couple ways to beat something, but in 2 you have soooo many items, multileveld routes, 1st person aiming, a bunch of ways to interact with guards, and the big shell's design itself even let's you decide what order to do things and the guard patrols change and escalate throughout the game.
Other weak points in the first MGS:
- the other pace killing backtracking you are forced to do. You're about to fight sniper wolf and save Meryl and then NOPE you gotta go all the way back first. It's better than the keycard one because you have actual gameplay to go with it, but the timing of it was horrible.
-The part where you have to fight your way up the giant staircase using the game's crap shooting mechanic.
-those undetectable mines right before sniper wolf that you can only use guesswork to avoid.
The guy who did the great MGS2 post-modernism analysis on YouTube (superbunnyhop) also did an analysis of MGS1 and he says better than I can why the first one, well still great, has a bunch of flaws as an actual game.
Never mind the story. What's MGS4's gameplay like? On par with the others?
Hmmm, I remember trying to skip the cutscene at the end my second time through. Maybe my save file got deleted or something. I feel like if you skip the cutscenes, MGS2 is probably the shortest in the series.
Anyways, MGS2 has several crap gameplay sequences as well. Fatman was really the only interesting bossfight to me. Olga, the chopper, and Solidus were decent at best, and Fortune, Vamp, and the 20 Rays were absolutely atrocious. And let's not act like there wasn't a lot of annoying backtracking through the struts as well.
Anyhoo, it just comes down to opinion I guess. I love all four games, even though they are all flawed.
Just saying!