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Lucasfilm hired acting coach for Han Solo star's performance
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I'm kinda disappointed at all the Boba Fett hate, particularly people saying he has no justification for his following. Up until the sand barge scene in RotJ, his character was the epitome of badass.
He was one of a handful of bounty hunters hand picked by Darth Vader.
He saw through Han Solo's trash chute getaway when no one else did.
He tracked them stealthily to Bespin, where he actually had the gall to broker a deal with Lord Vader to keep Solo for himself. Other than Tarkin, the Emperor, and Luke, anyone direcly speaking to Vader risked death by a force choke... and Boba Fett fucking makes a deal with him.
He was a regular at Jabba's palace, getting the A-list treatment.
He has a fucking jetpack, flamethrower, and giant missile as part of his suit.
It took decades for Darth Vader to get his own single-minute of kicking ass on the big screen at the end of Rogue One. I would absolutely kill for a western-vibed movie of Boba Fett solemnly tracking his targets.
He was one of a handful of bounty hunters hand picked by Darth Vader.
He saw through Han Solo's trash chute getaway when no one else did.
He tracked them stealthily to Bespin, where he actually had the gall to broker a deal with Lord Vader to keep Solo for himself. Other than Tarkin, the Emperor, and Luke, anyone direcly speaking to Vader risked death by a force choke... and Boba Fett fucking makes a deal with him.
He was a regular at Jabba's palace, getting the A-list treatment.
He has a fucking jetpack, flamethrower, and giant missile as part of his suit.
It took decades for Darth Vader to get his own single-minute of kicking ass on the big screen at the end of Rogue One. I would absolutely kill for a western-vibed movie of Boba Fett solemnly tracking his targets.
As far as I can tell it looks like Lucasfilm, producers, whoever you want to call them, they and Lord/Miller were on the same page about the type of film they wanted but the process of getting there wasn't compatible. That actually makes a lot more sense and helps explain how they got this far into filming before it got shut down and suggests they will actually be able to keep quite a lot of the original footage.
As for Kasdan... yeah, writers can get quite picky about their dialogue. Obscure reference, but one of the writers on the British show New Tricks got into a fight with the two lead actors who claimed they used to rewrite the dialogue on set (because it was so rubbish)... he said every episode he wrote ended up on the screen word for word.
Lord and Miller will bounce back but they're not getting a big-budget tentpole any time soon... which is probably a good thing, tbh.
As for Kasdan... yeah, writers can get quite picky about their dialogue. Obscure reference, but one of the writers on the British show New Tricks got into a fight with the two lead actors who claimed they used to rewrite the dialogue on set (because it was so rubbish)... he said every episode he wrote ended up on the screen word for word.
Lord and Miller will bounce back but they're not getting a big-budget tentpole any time soon... which is probably a good thing, tbh.
UltimaPooh
Member
Should have gone with the Will Forte and Miller and Lord dream team.
serenewarfare
Banned
All the talk in here about Lucasfilm being control freaks is directly contradicted by basically everything we've heard about Rian Johnson and Episode VIII.
"Evil producer stifles creatives" is a good narrative; still gets brought up in Marvel threads to this day.
But Rain is being paid off to say those things!!
SchrodingerC
Member
For me it was later.
Oh alright, DadFett was ok.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
For me it was later.
You would cry so hard if they announced a movie. Don't lie.
All you need to do is convince yourself that Disney will make it better.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Not necessarily. Maybe Johnson is making exactly the movie Kennedy wanted and expected him to make so there's simply no need for conflict. Or maybe he does have a lot of freedom, we don't know. But either way, there's no contradiction here.
QuantumZebra
Member
This.
Boba Fett is the mysterious and bad-ass looking character that you always wondered the mystery behind.
Just because Lucas took a shit on that with RotJ and then the prequels is not relevant to my headcanon.
Nothing says badass like being so bad at your job you get singled out by your boss.
That's too far away from the nostalgia mines that is the OT.
Well, yes...I probably would. But like I said, not in the way you seem to be thinking.
Lucasfilm.
Less is more innit.
You want to know the mysterious backstories of characters, and when they give it to you, it just isn't what you have in mind.
I think retroactively adding back stories to some Star Wars characters is very difficult.
Han Solo is a very good example.
The main arc of Solo is that he's a standard rogue who develops some sentimentality, after being challenged by a naive farm boy and a passionate leader figure.
I guess the only thing to be explored in a younger Han is 'why is Han so cynical by the beginning of ANH?'
Beyond that it's box-ticking crap like, 'gee how did he meet Chewie', and 'gee I bet that thing with the parsecs was cool right'?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Under the guidance of Disney's money and influence.
FriendlyGoat
Member
I don't think it would be fair to assume Rian is lying. I think it is very reasonable to assume it goes both ways at Lucasfilm when it comes to giving directors freedom.
I think the difference lies in vision and who is executing that vision. For the Saga films, the directors are also the ones who come up with the stories. They have more creative control over executing their own vision. If the Saga movies are falling apart or start falling behind I'm sure Kennedy would step up management. For TFA Abrams was doing his usual thing and it absolutely comes through, but he also has a lot more pull than most directors so it's hard to tell if it's just his power that gave him the ability to push back (like the release date) or if it's a sign of the degree of control they are wiling to give the directors.
On Solo, Lord and Miller were hired to execute Kasdan's vision. It sounds like there was a mismatch in how to execute that vision (and maybe the ability to manage production) that ultimately led to a breakdown and loss of creative control.
On Rogue One, there were half a dozen writers and rewrites halfway through, and it sounds like there really wasn't a singular vision going in so creative control was by committee, and Edwards ultimately shared directing duties (without bowing out).
Yep, everything will be connected to the dot for the next 10 years. No movie that won't have a connection to the OT or PT.
lastplayed
Member
The previous decade was enough backlash for me.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So much for my cult of personality
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
I think you mean Marvel money and influence.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I'm not saying he's lying and I don't presume to know what's going on behind closed doors. His comments are probably genuine but that doesn't necessarily mean that he has as much freedom as he says he does. If we assume that everything is going well with Episode 8, it's probably because Kennedy and the powers that be are pleased with his work and that his vision of Star Wars lines up with theirs. And it still feels like his movie to him. Again, I'm speculating, but Johnson's tweets should be to be taken with a gain of salt, that's all. But other than that, we seem to be in agreement.
OP title is like not even the worst thing in the article and even says that it's normal just not this late. So isn't actually a mistake by Lord and Miller, that they waited way to long to hire a coach to help the actor bring the performance they want, because they weren't able to get him act in a way they wanted?
There were even rumors that Ehrenreich wasn't happy about how the directors wanted him to play Solo.
There were even rumors that Ehrenreich wasn't happy about how the directors wanted him to play Solo.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Before you hand over the throne make sure to clean it.
That to. It's all one in the same really.
Dash_Riprock
Member
We're you not around for the prequels?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think this is it?
It's gonna take a LOT of compressed air to get all the gunk & crumblins out.
Whompa02
Member
Yeah for real...I took enough L's during my childhood/early teens.
lastplayed
Member
I think this is it?
It's gonna take a LOT of compressed air to get all the gunk & crumblins out.
How many wpm can you type with that thing?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
However many is necessary for me to be right all the time no matter what.
Also, for a setting that was thousands of years before the movies, KOTOR stunted a lot of things that already happen in the mainline SW universe so what the fuck is the point.
The Old Republic, as it stands now with its non-canon ass, is useless.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
This was pretty much my first thought when they confirmed standalone SW movies. My (unlikely) hope is that they will go back in time when the trilogy is over for the next series of movies.
lastplayed
Member
Tem's getting on a bit. They should create Jango's father; Fango Fett, the Butcher of Concord Dawn.
You have to wonder how he got paid if he destroyed evidence of his bounties.
it's a post-Lucas Star Wars movie, so in all likelihood we're just getting another muddled nothingness in line with the other modern SW output. Like Marvel (Avengers 2), they can produce a big dumb and successful crowd pleaser movie on autopilot regardless of the script or directors or other outside factors involved and people will go see it and regard it as a masterpiece. They have the formula down, the IP and the budget, you'd have to go as far as to get Lucas involved to really fuck it up
This is indeed the compromise solution we've been looking for.
Any Fett film works for me, really. There's a lot of uncovered territory, and I think that outside of being punk'd when fighting against the will of the Force, any Fett could still convincingly be bad-ass in most situations.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
It should have been Anthony Ingruber.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
There is still time Lucasfilm/Disney, cancel this and make an Obi-Wan movie instead. This guy is ready to go:
There is still time Lucasfilm/Disney, cancel this and make an Obi-Wan movie instead. This guy is ready to go:
Obi Wan film should just feature CGI Alec Guinness kicking ass for 90 minutes.
lastplayed
Member
There is still time Lucasfilm/Disney, cancel this and make an Obi-Wan movie instead. This guy is ready to go:
Perfect.
And this is the first thing that came to mind, too. The irony, Jesus.
Dash_Riprock
Member
There is still time Lucasfilm/Disney, cancel this and make an Obi-Wan movie instead. This guy is ready to go:
Find it funny that people keep saying have no one wants a Han Solo yet at the same time keep clamoring for an Obi wan film, ever though both have the same fundamental problems
This could not be further from the truth