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Lucasfilm hired acting coach for Han Solo star's performance

This might be shocking to you, but some of us are actually not that concerned about building a cult of personality around our presence on a videogame forum

You seem concerned enough about it to see one where it isn't even happening.

I didn't make you volunteer to chime in opposing this fictional scenario you're seeing, either.

So yeah, you seem way more concerned about it than I've ever been, kiddo.
 

Unit 33

Member
I think the worst that can happen to 'Solo' is that it ends up being mediocre.

Han's an interesting enough character, and I don't agree with the opinion that the choice to portray a backstory is a completely pointless exercise.

I guess you could look at comparative characters like Mal from Firefly (a successor), or hell, Indiana's arc in the Temple of Doom (similar to Han's ANH arc).

The amount of rumours and leaks around this production are really interesting, and I suppose it's more inevitable in larger productions.
 

Chumley

Banned
This might be shocking to you, but some of us are actually not that concerned about building a cult of personality around our presence on a videogame forum

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Yeah, but nobody said the serials had to be shallow. Just that they were serials, and making movies in keeping with that legacy is closer in line to what Lucas was intending in the first place, and that it's not really some sort of step-down or dilution of Star Wars' core elements or whatever.

Even in the earliest biographies of the man, it was noted that Star Wars stood tall over pop-culture, but was built like an inverted pyramid: The mythological strength and importance placed upon it seemed very outsized considering its origins and execution.

It's always been a series that has had way more depth placed upon its shoulders than it was ever built to carry. Which is why when Lucas returned to it, it became this ungainly, weird thing that was off-putting and strangely written, and only started to regain resonance/storytelling strength when it literally became a television series.

gat damn the insight in this post is profound
 
Disney understand the importance of the franchise and will want avoid memories of the prequel trilogy, they'll salvage it and make sure the final product is good. It'll probably be a decent pop corn flick, but it won't be terrible.
 
And thank YOU, Lights - for using Lucasfilm in the title, and not Disney as might the poor, misguided others whose existence has not been touched by the brilliant light my cult of personality has shone upon the video game forum landscape we are blessed to experience together as one family, under me, forever and ever.
 
This might be shocking to you, but some of us are actually not that concerned about building a cult of personality around our presence on a videogame forum

Well to be fair Bobby posts helpful/insightful shit constantly that you wouldn't have thought about or known otherwise. Which is a godsend for people like me who don't have time/mental bandwidth to dedicate to it.


Except the end is wrong. GL just made bad movies


I hate the prequels more than most people (Guardians of the Galaxy is the 6th best Star Wars film), but Lucas had a vision for SW and laid the groundwork for it. He was just too neck-deep in his own universe to properly communicate/visualize it effectively. Got high off his own farts.
 

Guy.brush

Member
Is there an Alden Ehrenreich movie where he plays someone with a big ego? Only saw HAIL, CAESAR! and he was the opposite of that in that.
Honest question. He is shorter than Ford, probably on less coke than him during shooting and needs to fill his legendary shoes in a role that oozes reckless ego and self confidence.
 

El Topo

Member
You're all shitting on Bobby and his cult of personality, but think about the alternatives. We could've ended up with the Cult of Bronson.
 

Raxus

Member
All these Star Wars spin offs are turning into cluster****s I see. It was a small miracle Rogue One managed to avoid disaster after what it went through and the Han Solo movie is sounding even worse.
 
Is there an Alden Ehrenreich movie where he plays someone with a big ego? Only saw HAIL, CAESAR! and he was the opposite of that in that.
Honest question. He is shorter than Ford, probably on less coke than him during shooting and needs to fill his legendary shoes in a role that oozes reckless ego and self confidence.

That's where I got thrown off the rails.

Kid is nothing like a young Han Solo would be (even crazier and more reckless than the Episode IV one).

All these Star Wars spin offs are turning into cluster****s I see. It was a small miracle Rogue One managed to avoid disaster after what it went through and the Han Solo movie is sounding even worse.

Rogue One was a prequel to a film that came out almost 50 years ago and it made over $1 billion. Kathleen Kennedy is arguably the greatest film exec/producer in modern history, and they have spaceships full of money to work with. I think you are exaggerating the "clusterfuck" a bit much there.

I subscribe to the theory that the prequels were a combination of two things. One, Lucas alone was never the key reason for Star Wars' success (the best Star Wars movie is the one he had the least involvement in, for example). Two, Lucas simply lost his directing and writing talent.

Agreed on both points.
 

Sephzilla

Member
I hate the prequels more than most people (Guardians of the Galaxy is the 6th best Star Wars film), but Lucas had a vision for SW and laid the groundwork for it. He was just too neck-deep in his own universe to properly communicate/visualize it effectively. Got high off his own farts.

I subscribe to the theory that the prequels were a combination of two things. One, Lucas alone was never the key reason for Star Wars' success (the best Star Wars movie is the one he had the least involvement in, for example). Two, Lucas simply lost his directing and writing talent.
 
Two, Lucas simply lost his directing and writing talent.

His rustiness as a visual storyteller never really got as much attention as it should have. Narratives tended towards the notion that he was doing everything precisely on purpose, and precisely to rebuke/piss off the diehard fans who built his empire (or some shit like that)

He hadn't actually directed a major production for 20 years by the time he started seriously getting underway on the Phantom Menace, and he was simultaneously trying to get back on a bike he kicked into a garage after 1977, while constantly bolting new parts and technologies onto the wobbly-ass bike he was trying to pedal forward without falling over.
 
I have no idea why Disney doesn't just try a reimagining of the 1st KOTOR game's story. That's like easy money right there. Or hell, I make a tv show. There has to be be some expanded universe stuff that makes them go, 'That's not a bad idea.'
This.

Ever since KOTOR was a thing, I've wanted a live action adaption/remake of it.
 

Metalmarc

Member
I got a feeling this Film should have been the first Netflix Star Wars,This could have worked as a 8 Part Series.

Lord and Miller could have done the pilot, Ron Howard could have done a Episode, Larry Kasdan and Son could have done one, Donald Glover could have done one,
and so on and so forth.

Everyone would have been Happy....maybe.
 

Sephzilla

Member
KOTOR would actually be a really fun thing to adapt, in my opinion. The base story is pretty solid and it takes place far enough in the past that you don't really have to worry about tripping over any other continuity stuff. KOTOR is also probably the best thing that came out of the EU that wasn't Thrawn
 

Tobor

Member
I subscribe to the theory that the prequels were a combination of two things. One, Lucas alone was never the key reason for Star Wars' success (the best Star Wars movie is the one he had the least involvement in, for example). Two, Lucas simply lost his directing and writing talent.

The third thing was the advent of cgi. It allowed Lucas to do whatever he wanted and focus on fixing everything in post. He spent even less time with performance than he'd done in the past, and had everyone stand in green rooms talking to green balls.

The fourth was him paying for the prequels himself and answering to no one. There was literally no one to report to and, like CGI, he could do whatever he wanted. He said Jar Jar was funny and there was no one there with the balls or responsibility to say otherwise.

Combine 1-4 and you have a perfect storm of mediocrity. He was fully enabled to be as bad a director as he could be.
 
He said Jar Jar was funny and there was no one there with the balls or responsibility to say otherwise.

This part of the narrative isn't exactly true. Plenty of people spoke up. But since it was his company, and he was coming out of pocket to make it, he reserved the right to tell those people to kick rocks, he was gonna do it anyway.

The number of "yes men" surrounding him was a lot lower than people tend to assume. There were more than a few people saying no. He just didn't really care.
 

Guy.brush

Member
I got a feeling this Film should have been the first Netflix Star Wars,This could have worked as a 8 Part Series.

Lord and Miller could have done the pilot, Ron Howard could have done a Episode, Larry Kasdan and Son could have done one, Donald Glover could have done one,
and so on and so forth.

Everyone would have been Happy....maybe.

8 parts?

  1. How he got to know Chewie
  2. That famous card game where he won the Falcon from Lando
  3. How he got his trusty blaster "no match for a good blaster"
  4. His first run-in with Jabba, Boba and him, round 0.
    "who is this kid, who is behind him? He came solo."
  5. How he made the Kessel-run in less than 12 parsecs
  6. Outrunning Imperial cruisers on a smuggling run "never tell me the odds"
  7. That time when he used the holochess in the Falcon to trick a pirate into playing with Chewie "pulling one's arm out"
  8. An episode about how he found the hydrospanner, lost it and Chewie went to hell and back to get it back "Chewie hand me the hydrospanner!!"

Please, even one Young Han movie will be desperate for anything other than "how did he get to know, do, learn, use X,"
 

Tobor

Member
This part of the narrative isn't exactly true. Plenty of people spoke up. But since it was his company, and he was coming out of pocket to make it, he reserved the right to tell those people to kick rocks, he was gonna do it anyway.

The number of "yes men" surrounding him was a lot lower than people tend to assume. There were more than a few people saying no. He just didn't really care.

Interesting if true. I've never seen any evidence of it. Has anyone publicly stated this?
 
Interesting if true. I've never seen any evidence of it. Has anyone publicly stated this?

You can see some of it in the documentary on the TPM disc, and there's been interviews with principals on the pictures since that have said as such/described disagreements.

That's not to say there weren't any "yes men" who had his ear. But the idea that everyone was too scared to tell him they thought he was stepping wrongly isn't as accurate as assumed.
 

Noirulus

Member
How do you make a prequel for a film with an actor that's legend-tier (Harrison Ford)? There's no way you'll find an actor that can do him justice.
 

Tobor

Member
You can see some of it in the documentary on the TPM disc, and there's been interviews with principals on the pictures since that have said as such/described disagreements.

That's not to say there weren't any "yes men" who had his ear. But the idea that everyone was too scared to tell him they thought he was stepping wrongly isn't as accurate as assumed.

I haven't watched that documentary in years, but all I remember is some people looking straight faced when they should have been smiling as they told him how cool everything was. I need to watch it again. Beats watching the actual movie.

I do remember Spielberg in an aint it cool news interview stating he'd never "special edition" one of his movies again after the ET fiasco. The interviewer asked if he could please ask Lucas to do the same, and Spielberg said you can't tell George anything. So yeah. You're probably right. Which makes the whole thing even sadder.
 
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