• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Mac GAF Gather, OS X Tiger Talk

Status
Not open for further replies.

Phoenix

Member
StrikerObi said:
Apple Jax:

Just because you had QTpro 6 doesn't mean you get QTpro 7. Apple said at MacWorld that you'll need to purchase a new pro license. It's also printed on the side of Tiger's box.

As for dashboard, why not just change the keybinding, or set it to a hot corner instead? My F12 key is free (eject and F12 are seperate on my 15" powerbook), so I use either that or the top left corner of my screen.

My only issue with Dashboard is that the little calander widget isn't integrated into iCal. WTF!?

I use F12 for both Dashboard and eject on my Powermac and the OS seems smart enough about the keypress timings to tell the difference. Hold F12 down for a while - eject. Press F12 down quickly, dashboard.
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Shit.
Okay, long time ago, I hacked ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.symbolichotkeys.plist to let me use the enter key of my iBook to be the "show all" in expose. I just realized the brilliance of making cmd+enter the key for Dashboard, but now the plist ain't so editor friendly. Anyone know what the hell gives?
 
I solved my heat problem. If you had Virex installed on your mac before you upgraded, you might have heat issues under Tiger. It left a process running in Tiger (open Activity Monitor, switch dropdown to all, and sort by CPU% to find it). It's VShieldCheck I believe, and was eating up all of my idle processor. To get rid of it, uninstall Virex and use spotlight to find the "Virex" script. Run that script to remove all the leftovers, otherwise the process will keep running.
 

sonatinas

Member
StrikerObi said:
I solved my heat problem. If you had Virex installed on your mac before you upgraded, you might have heat issues under Tiger. It left a process running in Tiger (open Activity Monitor, switch dropdown to all, and sort by CPU% to find it). It's VShieldCheck I believe, and was eating up all of my idle processor. To get rid of it, uninstall Virex and use spotlight to find the "Virex" script. Run that script to remove all the leftovers, otherwise the process will keep running.


Virex is shit. It took me months to figure out why my computer was making a high squeal and i finally figured it out by reading the OSX logs. It was virex, i uninstalled it and back to quiet powerbook.
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Dumb question- how do you get widgets to stay as permanent options in the "dashboard dock"? I double clicked a downloaded widget and it appeared, but then it went away after a reboot and was not one of the permanent options.
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
shantyman said:
Dumb question- how do you get widgets to stay as permanent options in the "dashboard dock"? I double clicked a downloaded widget and it appeared, but then it went away after a reboot and was not one of the permanent options.

You using Safari? Cause I just downloaded and clicked on it and it went fine. Although I think I read Firefox won't do it right or something.
 
My copy is still with FedEx had no time to pick it up today... I missed them Friday and Saturday :(

I just had another 10.3.9 crash an hour ago and I want TIGER NOW!
 
Ok, got it running a bit ago. Problem-

QT7 won't run .avi files. The Divix codec dosent seem too be working. QT also has two "help" menus up top. Anyone get this?

Edit - Got the codec working by reinstalling it, still two menus in QT and Automator.
 
Guys, I am really considering Tiger but a friend who owns it says it has a few bugs and I should wait for the update. Anyone know about this?
 

Phoenix

Member
galeninjapan said:
Guys, I am really considering Tiger but a friend who owns it says it has a few bugs and I should wait for the update. Anyone know about this?

10.4 is definitely not bug free, and some of the bugs it still has are reasonably annoying - but nothing anywhere near as serious as some of the 10.3 launch bugs that ate drives and so forth. nevertheless 10.4.1 is already in heavy test and should be out soon ehough. WWDC would be my guess as that's when the new Java stuff is supposed to be creeping out as well.
 

Poody

What program do you use to photoshop a picture?
StrikerObi said:
So am I the only one who's Powerbook is running hotter on Tiger than it was on Panther? It's almost as hot as it gets when I play World of Warcraft.

Alright just got tiger installed and I do noticed it getting a little warmer then usually. I'm thinking it might be the video processor doing the visuals. Tiger seems to run a tad bit faster then x.3.9
 
Just posting again reminding anybody who pre-ordered from Apple and did not recieve their copy on the 29th, you can call Apple and they will appologize with a free copy of iWork or iLife 05, or $30 credit to te Apple Online Store.
 

golem

Member
question... does anyone have any info when the Powerbook G5s are supposed to arrive? I've seen Q2 05 on the web but it doesnt seem like it will make that...
 
golem said:
question... does anyone have any info when the Powerbook G5s are supposed to arrive? I've seen Q2 05 on the web but it doesnt seem like it will make that...

As of right now, the answer is never. Not until they can solve the heat problem.
 
First off, none of the current Tiger bugs are deal-breakers. If you plan on buying Tiger, you might as well take advantage of spotlight and a system performance boost now rather than later. For the wary, Macworld posted an indepth article on the various (well, three) choices to back up existing data and install Tiger.

I've been hands on with Tiger for a week now. Here's what I've learned...

(1) Shortcut to open widget menu in dashboard: Cmd + =

(2) Can't say for certain if this is new to Tiger, but I noticed the "gather windows" button in the display preferences; pressing the button tiles all open windows to the main screen. I assume its Apple's effort to alleviate dual monitor aggrivations when iBook/PB users disconnect from an external monitor only to find out a window is off screen, impossible to retrieve unless connected back to an external monitor. Dubiously, the button only appears when the external monitor is connected. If you have forgotten to drag your open windows to the laptop screen, you've also likely forgotten to press the "gather windows" button. The button should be available all of the time so you're just a click away from accessing otherwise unreachable windows.

(3) Unless you really dug into Keychain preferences in prior versions of OS X, you're probably unfamiliar with password assistant. It's now located in sys prefs > accounts > password tab > change password > key icon. Arguably, it's just as buried, but you're more likely to stumble across it here. Password assistant suggests a list of passwords after you tell it what type of password you require (e.g. memorable, letters & numbers, random, etc.) and length (i.e. numbers of characters). Its quality meter graphically indicates how "crackable" the generated or user-entered password is. If nothing else, it'll keep you entertained for the next 3.7 minutes.

(4) Quicktime 7, I love you despite your less than sensational performance on my G4 Powerbook. I know I'm not suppose to, but how can I resist downloading and attempting to view 720p & 1080p movie trailers!

(5) Here's how to detach widgets from the Dashboard. Too bad the widgets float on top of all other windows.

Speaking of widgets, here are the mandatory third-party ones to acquire immediately:

Yahoo! Local Traffic
Hula Girl...though hula girl is the least entertaining of the grass-skirt-undulating characters you have to choose from.
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
RevenantKioku said:
You using Safari? Cause I just downloaded and clicked on it and it went fine. Although I think I read Firefox won't do it right or something.


I am, it just downloaded a zipped file which I unzipped it, and double clicked the widget icon.
 
okay finally got it...

Questions:

Dashboard's Time and Weather both have a NEW YORK default, where can I change this to my City? I'm about an hour east of NYC in Connecticut

Can Spotlight find words in my Manga collection or is that too advanced for it?

iChat has Jabber now? I can't even remember my Jabber account
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Smiles and Cries said:
okay finally got it...

Questions:

Dashboard's Time and Weather both have a NEW YORK default, where can I change this to my City? I'm about an hour east of NYC in Connecticut

Can Spotlight find words in my Manga collection or is that too advanced for it?

iChat has Jabber now? I can't even remember my Jabber account

Click the I button to flip the widget and change preferences. You won't be able to change the time zone one though- it is based on major cities in the Time Zone.
 
shantyman said:
Click the I button to flip the widget and change preferences. You won't be able to change the time zone one though- it is based on major cities in the Time Zone.

Thanks Dude that was cool

Can I have more than one clock?

New York

Tokyo

L.A.

???
 
Can I still call apple and get a free copy even though it was my fault for being in a building that has no buzzer and my phone is off ? :D

I have been watching the Tiger vids now so no more silly questions from me :lol
Damn I was stupid
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
shantyman said:
I am, it just downloaded a zipped file which I unzipped it, and double clicked the widget icon.

Hmm, oh yeah. You gotta dump it in the Library/Widgets folder. There are two, your personal one and the system one. One time it went in there automatically, one time I had to drag it myself.

Awesome tip for iBook (and I'd guess powerbook?) users. I snagged this off of macosxhints.com back when I first had Jaguar. I had my "enter" key remapped to be Expose's "Show All", and now I just set up the Dashboard to Cmd-Enter. It is totally freaking awesome.
First go system properties, dashboard & expose settings, change the show all and dashboard's hotkeys to something else. Otherwise, for example if you're off a clean install, the plist won't exist.
Get Property List Editor running (you may have to install it, it comes with the dev tools on the install disc) and go to open. Using the spotlight part (hawt!) open com.apple.symbolichotkeys.plist.
Go to 32->value->parameters and change 1's value to 52 and 2's value should be 0.
Go to 34->value->parameters and change 1's value to 52 and 2's value should be 131072.
Go to 62->value->parameters and change 1's value to 52 and set 2's value to 1048576.
Go to 63->value->parameters and change 1's value to 52 and set 2's value to 1179648.
Log out, log in. Bam! No need to use the goddamn F-keys.
This is exactly what I have done, but of course don't blame me if you f up something. :D
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
I saw the thread regarding a GAF RSS feed, and someone mentioned the RSS feed feature in Safari. What exactly is the point of it? I guess I am too used to NetNewsWire Lite, but it seems like a pointless feature to me. If I am already viewing a page, why would I want to check its feeds? I like an external program that allows me to lok at the feeds externally I guess.
 

Timbuktu

Member
I think it just means that you can scan multiple sites at the same time, so it saves time, you can read all the articles from you favorite news sites compiled together on one page. And I think Safari in Tiger is a lot faster too, feels so slick. I've been uses Tiger for a few days now and I'm quite impressed. I think the Dashboard can be taken further if it's more customizable though, and having to get Quicktime Pro again is a pain.
 

Poody

What program do you use to photoshop a picture?
Someone help with directions to open up ports. BT is really slow on my PB compared to my desktop. I'm thinking it has to do something with ports on osx tiger. Any help? :)
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Poody said:
Someone help with directions to open up ports. BT is really slow on my PB compared to my desktop. I'm thinking it has to do something with ports on osx tiger. Any help? :)

You might try going into the "sharing" control panel and looking at the firewall settings.
 
shantyman said:
I know how it works but the usage is lost on me.

I share that mindset in the light of other more advanced RSS & Atom readers/filters available (and free). I assume (read: hope) that Safari's new RSS capabilites are precursor to a full-fledged NetNewsWire- or Bloglines-like Web broswer & RSS reader hybrid. Icing would be synchronization to web-acciessible .Mac account.
 

shantyman

WHO DEY!?
I just tried a 3 way video conference and the presentation and execution is tremendous. It really was quite impressive.
 

Macam

Banned
Smiles and Cries: Yes, you can have two weather widgets at the same time. Just drag a new one from the Dashboard menu onto the screen. Click Info in the lower right corner, change the zip code, and now you have a second weather widget.

As for widgets, you should be able to get Automator to look in the folder where you downloaded them, unzip them, and move them to the ~/Library/Widgets folder so you don't have to worry about manually dragging them in.
 
If you have a 1.5Ghz or 1.6Ghz powerbook and at least 512MB (preferably 1GB ) of RAM can you detail your general performance within Tiger and in particular with Quicktime 7. I've heard alot of complaints about Tiger and especially QT7's performance on G4 Powerbooks no matter how fast they are.
 

Macam

Banned
ddkawaii said:
If you have a 1.5Ghz or 1.6Ghz powerbook and at least 512MB (preferably 1GB ) of RAM can you detail your general performance within Tiger and in particular with Quicktime 7. I've heard alot of complaints about Tiger and especially QT7's performance on G4 Powerbooks no matter how fast they are.

If you're referring to running something like a 720p H.264 trailer on a G4 PB or a similar machine, of course you're going to have provblems -- they're intended for G5s. my 1.5Ghz (1.5GB RAM) Rev. C PB only pulls about 12 fps during the Kingdom of Heaven trailer (720p), eating as much as 90% of my CPU, though I did have a few other programs open, albeit idle at the time.
 
Macam said:
If you're referring to running something like a 720p H.264 trailer on a G4 PB or a similar machine, of course you're going to have provblems -- they're intended for G5s. my 1.5Ghz (1.5GB RAM) Rev. C PB only pulls about 12 fps during the Kingdom of Heaven trailer (720p), eating as much as 90% of my CPU, though I did have a few other programs open, albeit idle at the time.

Hmm.I'm sorta sad to hear that. There's never been a point in my Mac owning history where I had a current near top of the line Mac that couldn't run the best quality Quicktime movie (resolution, most advanced codec, etc) perfectly...

:-(

iBook and Powerbook speedbumps at WWDC? It seems if the iBooks get bumped alone they're gonna be like exactly the same as Powerbooks except for 4200RPM HD and worse video card...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom