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Macross Plus 30th Anniversary
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Diatribe1974
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I just wanted this in on blu-ray that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Diatribe1974
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You sir, ma'am, thing, are hilarious. That or off your meds.
Oberstein
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Ah, Macross Plus, brings back so many good memories. These 4 OVAs are simply extraordinary, whether you like the license or not. As has been said, it's so ahead of its time and hasn't aged a bit.
It's funny that Blade Runer 2049 is mentioned, because I immediately thought of Macross Plus when I saw the hologram. Joi is good, but nothing will top Sharon Apple. It reminds me of Avatar the movie when it came out, my colleagues thought it was incredible, aesthetically crazy, while well, bitches, I've seen a thousand times more beautiful and dreamlike in the evil forest of FFXI. When video games and anime are so many years ahead of their time, it sometimes creates culture shocks. But anyway, I digress.
You can also see that hand-drawn animation has a style that you just can't find in modern anime. I even get the impression that the Japanese couldn't do it again. My disinterest in post-2000/2010 anime is only reinforced when I see these gems of anime from yesteryear.
I'm also trying to interest the younger generation, in particular a friend's niece, but it's no use: for her, it's Marvel & co. That's when you realize that there's a generation gap and that we've lived through a golden age. And it's very difficult to get new generations to love these amazing products.
It's funny that Blade Runer 2049 is mentioned, because I immediately thought of Macross Plus when I saw the hologram. Joi is good, but nothing will top Sharon Apple. It reminds me of Avatar the movie when it came out, my colleagues thought it was incredible, aesthetically crazy, while well, bitches, I've seen a thousand times more beautiful and dreamlike in the evil forest of FFXI. When video games and anime are so many years ahead of their time, it sometimes creates culture shocks. But anyway, I digress.
You can also see that hand-drawn animation has a style that you just can't find in modern anime. I even get the impression that the Japanese couldn't do it again. My disinterest in post-2000/2010 anime is only reinforced when I see these gems of anime from yesteryear.
I'm also trying to interest the younger generation, in particular a friend's niece, but it's no use: for her, it's Marvel & co. That's when you realize that there's a generation gap and that we've lived through a golden age. And it's very difficult to get new generations to love these amazing products.
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
There really weren't many higher budgeted OVAs made after this. Then again, 1994 has sorta umofficially been the year before cel painted anime budgets tanked. This OVA also knocked Southern Cross outta the water by leagues.
Macross Plus, a four part anime OVA, came out on August 25th, 1994, so this marks the 30th anniversary. It was directed by Shinichiro Watanabe (director of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo), with Shoji Kawamori (creator of Macross and Escaflowne) as chief director and mechanical designer, and music by Yoko Kanno (Cowboy Bebop, Turn A Gundam, GitS:SAC).
Looking back on it, this was the golden age of anime: beautiful hand-drawn animation, mature storytelling, and highly prescient science fiction concepts. Macross Plus tackles the idea of near-future military pilots being rendered obsolete by unmanned AI-powered drones, in a self-contained story that follows up on the original Macross series. Its vision of the future is harrowingly accurate in many ways, with our increasing reliance on AI and drones, and it even predicts the eventual success of Hatsune Miku.
If you haven't watched it, I strongly recommend.
Dirk Benedict
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I never realized... wow.. fucking, Isamu is a Meth Cook.
I knew I loved Macross Plus for another reason that I couldn't figure out.
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Werewolf Jones
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0079 VS OG. I haven't seen Macross but the week by week animation quality and ambition. As product of animation Macross wipes the fuck out of 0079. But anything afterward? Nah. There was some INSANE talent on Macross.
ClanOfNone
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The story of Robotech/Macross in the US is some truly insane stuff.
I loved Robotech as a kid, some local affiliate aired episodes at like 6AM, and my ass was always up for them.
On a trip to B. Dalton books I happened upon something wonderful, an entire boxed set of the novel adaptations of Robotech. It was over a dozen books, and it included the original run, Southern Cross, and Invid Invasion, I loved them all. Hell, we even played the Palladium RPG based off of Robotech.
It wasn’t until I was an adult decades later when I learned that Robotech didn’t even really exist. The OG show was based off Macross, and Southern Cross and Invid Invasion were COMPLETELY unrelated series that had been redubbed to fit the Robotech storyline. My mind remains blown to this day.
I loved Robotech as a kid, some local affiliate aired episodes at like 6AM, and my ass was always up for them.
On a trip to B. Dalton books I happened upon something wonderful, an entire boxed set of the novel adaptations of Robotech. It was over a dozen books, and it included the original run, Southern Cross, and Invid Invasion, I loved them all. Hell, we even played the Palladium RPG based off of Robotech.
It wasn’t until I was an adult decades later when I learned that Robotech didn’t even really exist. The OG show was based off Macross, and Southern Cross and Invid Invasion were COMPLETELY unrelated series that had been redubbed to fit the Robotech storyline. My mind remains blown to this day.
Trogdor1123
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Macross over Gundam for sure but Gundam is pretty good still. Both have had “fluctuations” in quality.
Trogdor1123
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I was exactly the same. I had no idea till a nerdy buddy told me in University. It was crazy. They really did an amazing job of pulling there series together.
Raise your hand if the Jetfire Transformer was your first veritech fighter, rather than a Macross/Robotech toy?
I actually had a robotech veritech, with a friend who had Jetfire. I remember wanting the ~foot tall SDF toy SO BADLY but it was expensive and my mom refused
Childhood trauma!
Definitely read the novelizations to death and had most of the RPG, even tried to work out how to have all the series co-exist so you could have Zentradi vs invid battles with bioroids showing up.
I actually had a robotech veritech, with a friend who had Jetfire. I remember wanting the ~foot tall SDF toy SO BADLY but it was expensive and my mom refused
Childhood trauma!Definitely read the novelizations to death and had most of the RPG, even tried to work out how to have all the series co-exist so you could have Zentradi vs invid battles with bioroids showing up.
ClanOfNone
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Raise your hand if the Jetfire Transformer was your first veritech fighter, rather than a Macross/Robotech toy?
I actually had a robotech veritech, with a friend who had Jetfire. I remember wanting the ~foot tall SDF toy SO BADLY but it was expensive and my mom refused
Definitely read the novelizations to death and had most of the RPG, even tried to work out how to have all the series co-exist so you could have Zentradi vs invid battles with bioroids showing up.
Jetfire was awesome. I remember seeing the episode that had the veritech with the armor and boosters and being like “holy shit!”
Such a great toy, it was partially die cast and a thing of beauty. The fact that you could transform it to all three modes was icing on the cake.
Then I saw the Wasp model from Battletech and I was mind blown again. How can you have a virtually identical model across three properties? A whole lot of contract and rights disputes apparently.
kunonabi
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Never had a veritech as a kid. There was an older kid who had one but he was asking way too much to sell it. To this day I still just want a really good transformable VF-1A in Max's colors that I don't have to mortgage my house for.Raise your hand if the Jetfire Transformer was your first veritech fighter, rather than a Macross/Robotech toy?
I actually had a robotech veritech, with a friend who had Jetfire. I remember wanting the ~foot tall SDF toy SO BADLY but it was expensive and my mom refused
Definitely read the novelizations to death and had most of the RPG, even tried to work out how to have all the series co-exist so you could have Zentradi vs invid battles with bioroids showing up.
Liljagare
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I am never able to find them in stock, the one I want is the DX Chogokin Macross Movie Version Vf-1a Valkyre, also, usually around 500 bucks - lol!!
Check your DMs.I am never able to find them in stock, the one I want is the DX Chogokin Macross Movie Version Vf-1a Valkyre, also, usually around 500 bucks - lol!!
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I completely forgot about the books, I’m pretty sure I read them all.
Trogdor1123
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That is so awesomeI am never able to find them in stock, the one I want is the DX Chogokin Macross Movie Version Vf-1a Valkyre, also, usually around 500 bucks - lol!!
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Gundam doesn't have Mechas that can be transformed into vehicles, right?
Heimdall_Xtreme
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I'm going to give myself this figure for Christmas, along with the Zelda Lego, the Deku tree.I am never able to find them in stock, the one I want is the DX Chogokin Macross Movie Version Vf-1a Valkyre, also, usually around 500 bucks - lol!!
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I watched a couple Gundam series and liked them, but nothing tops that original Valkyrie design.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
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I have been wanting to see this since it first came out. I know I can google this, but I would just get a load of crappy answers. What order should I see it in, and what parts can. Iskip?
Macross Plus is a standalone story set after the events of the original Macross TV series. It's a four part OVA, roughly movie length. You can either (in ascending time commitment):
A) Watch the Macross Plus OVA and be done.
B) For a brief introduction to the original, watch the Macross: Do You Remember Love movie first, which is a heavily condensed retelling of the original TV series, then the Macross Plus OVA.
C) For the full treatment, start with the original Super Dimensional Fortress Macross TV series, then the Macross: Do You Remember Love movie, then the Macross Plus OVA.
WhamBamThankYouMaam
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God damnit, if I take some condensed route I will just wonder what I missed. C it is.
Wheeljack539
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I prefer the mechas of Macross
That Zeta was designed by Shoji Kawamori as he was also a big Gundam fan.
JunkerWoland
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Zeta Gundam was designed by Kazumi Fujita. Kawamori gets design/styling credit for the RX-78GP01 "Zephyranthes" and the RX-78GP02A "Physalis" from Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory.
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I’d argue it’s not just condensed, but a retelling with a different perspective. Either way, they both set up Macross Plus. I think option C is the right choice.
My kids have been on a Ghibli kick lately and it’s been fun watching those together, and now I’m wondering if my 6 year old could handle the OG Macross series…
BTW does anyone have any info on the animation style of DYRL? It has such a distinct look, I wonder if they did what Batman: TAS did and drew on black backgrounds?
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Liljagare
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Lol, managed to get one home, thanks to
EviLore
!!! The thing is huuuuuuuge, and looks supersharp. Not unpacking completely yet, in the middle of moving. Also have the armourup kit on the way, it is a little bit of milking with selling that kit separately. Also found something I completely missed was even released.
This kit is just too big, but daaaaang..
EviLore
!!! The thing is huuuuuuuge, and looks supersharp. Not unpacking completely yet, in the middle of moving. Also have the armourup kit on the way, it is a little bit of milking with selling that kit separately. Also found something I completely missed was even released.
This kit is just too big, but daaaaang..
Lol, managed to get one home, thanks to
This kit is just too big, but daaaaang..
Congrats, looks great
near
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Macross Plus is getting Cinema screenings across the UK from Sept. 21.
In other news, Disney+ is making the following Macross anime available in Canada:
Macross Plus
Macross Plus Movie Edition
Macross 7 the Movie: The Galaxy's Calling Me!
Macross Frontier
Macross Frontier: The False Songstress
Macross Frontier: The Wings of Farewell
Macross FB7 the Movie: Listen to My Song!
Macross Frontier: Labyrinth of Time
Macross Delta
Macross Delta the Movie: Passionate Walkūre
Macross Delta: Zettai LIVE!!!!!!
www.animenewsnetwork.com
Macross Plus Movie Edition
In a landmark moment for fans of the decades-spanning legendary Macross franchise, the beloved classic 1995 film - together with its original four-part OVA presentation - will be made available for fans for the first time in English on Blu-ray later this year.
macross.alltheanime.com
In other news, Disney+ is making the following Macross anime available in Canada:
Macross Plus
Macross Plus Movie Edition
Macross 7 the Movie: The Galaxy's Calling Me!
Macross Frontier
Macross Frontier: The False Songstress
Macross Frontier: The Wings of Farewell
Macross FB7 the Movie: Listen to My Song!
Macross Frontier: Labyrinth of Time
Macross Delta
Macross Delta the Movie: Passionate Walkūre
Macross Delta: Zettai LIVE!!!!!!
Disney+ Canada Adds 11 Macross Anime
Includes Macross Plus, Macross 7 the Movie, Macross Frontier, Macross Delta
STARSBarry
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Well mine showed, it fucking weighs a ton.
kunonabi
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Yeah, it was way bigger than I was expecting. The art book is a beast. I'm not so fond of it not actually coming with proper cases for the discs though. I really wish had space to display the art cards.
Well mine showed, it fucking weighs a ton.
ClanOfNone
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Alright, now start releasing some of those sweet Macross shooters we didn’t get over here.
And give me a remastered Battlecry dammit
And give me a remastered Battlecry dammit
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