Bobby Roberts
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In one of those interviews I read above, Weiner is pushing the idea that Draper's ahead of the curve, and all his potential clients are too slow to see it, which is why he keeps blowing pitches.
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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC
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Mr. Saturn
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Ah come on he had the heaven in Hawaii ad earlier this season (;
Discotheque
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Don's had it coming for a while now. But still that ending (and the Hershey meeting as disastrous as it was) gave me hope. Will the final season give us honest Donald at last?!!!
I can definitely see that. When don gets out of this area of insecurity and issues with identity he'll be unstoppable.
Angry Fork
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I completely forgot Don was the one who fucked up the Jaguar stuff, yea that explains Joan.
He's been way ahead of everyone imo, they just don't adopt his ideas. That pitch about being on the beach, shedding all clothes and going into the sea was awesome. His pitches are great and have been getting more interesting as he becomes more fed up with selling ideas and wants to do something genuine. The clients are just pussies who want everything family friendly.
He's been way ahead of everyone imo, they just don't adopt his ideas. That pitch about being on the beach, shedding all clothes and going into the sea was awesome. His pitches are great and have been getting more interesting as he becomes more fed up with selling ideas and wants to do something genuine. The clients are just pussies who want everything family friendly.
brianjones
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would be interesting if next season started with don having a different job entirely
but how that would work with the supporting cast idk
but how that would work with the supporting cast idk
Black Mamba
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What a great finale!
1. lmao @ Pete's mother being thrown overboard by manolo after he married her. Of all the completely out there stories, this tops them all. Father by air, mother by sea, lmao. How do they come up with this one?
2. NOT GREAT BOB LMAO
3. Bob Benson is a force to be reckoned with. That car thing was great. You could totally tell Pete knew it would not end well.
4. I liked that moment Pete had with Trudy about being free.
5. Oh ted, why you gotta fuck up so bad. Don warned you! I'm glad he was self-aware enough to realize how bad it got. But boy did he fuck over Peggy.
6. Peggy becoming Don in the office is a great ending. I always thought it would be the series finale, but doing it earlier is a nice twist.
7. Speaking of which, Don got fired (for the most part) ala Freddie. He finally hit rock bottom. Lost Megan, lost his job, lost his "candy wrapper" that protected his insides (Dick Whitman), and now he's going back to his basics to rediscover himself and his children. I thought that was a great way to end the season by visiting his old home with his kids. I do think that Don might be back as Dick Whitman next season even if he retains the name Don. I really didn't see Don losing his job coming. I loved the bait and switch regarding Don going to Cali. But when you think about it, Don getting fired makes a lot of sense given how the season went. He's done little right and is a mess.
8. That scene with Hersheys was amazing. Hamm was at his best in that one.
9. So Ted and Pete in cali. Bob in detroit. And no one knows where Don will be next season...
10. Besides Pete's hilarious line, Peggy "decisions" line, Stan's "sandwich" line, and Trudy's "free" line were great and delivered perfectly.
Fucking love this show. Hit all the right notes tonight. A lot happened in this finale and not everything was interconnected directly which seems crazy considering how short it was.
Can't wait for the final season. Where will Don be?
Someone pointed this out weeks ago and it made a lot of sense (not that Weiner said it, the poster did). He sees where advertising is going but he's also not on his game to make the client want it, yet, because he's a mess. So the advert is good, but he just can't seal the deal.
1. lmao @ Pete's mother being thrown overboard by manolo after he married her. Of all the completely out there stories, this tops them all. Father by air, mother by sea, lmao. How do they come up with this one?
2. NOT GREAT BOB LMAO
3. Bob Benson is a force to be reckoned with. That car thing was great. You could totally tell Pete knew it would not end well.
4. I liked that moment Pete had with Trudy about being free.
5. Oh ted, why you gotta fuck up so bad. Don warned you! I'm glad he was self-aware enough to realize how bad it got. But boy did he fuck over Peggy.
6. Peggy becoming Don in the office is a great ending. I always thought it would be the series finale, but doing it earlier is a nice twist.
7. Speaking of which, Don got fired (for the most part) ala Freddie. He finally hit rock bottom. Lost Megan, lost his job, lost his "candy wrapper" that protected his insides (Dick Whitman), and now he's going back to his basics to rediscover himself and his children. I thought that was a great way to end the season by visiting his old home with his kids. I do think that Don might be back as Dick Whitman next season even if he retains the name Don. I really didn't see Don losing his job coming. I loved the bait and switch regarding Don going to Cali. But when you think about it, Don getting fired makes a lot of sense given how the season went. He's done little right and is a mess.
8. That scene with Hersheys was amazing. Hamm was at his best in that one.
9. So Ted and Pete in cali. Bob in detroit. And no one knows where Don will be next season...
10. Besides Pete's hilarious line, Peggy "decisions" line, Stan's "sandwich" line, and Trudy's "free" line were great and delivered perfectly.
Fucking love this show. Hit all the right notes tonight. A lot happened in this finale and not everything was interconnected directly which seems crazy considering how short it was.
Can't wait for the final season. Where will Don be?
Someone pointed this out weeks ago and it made a lot of sense (not that Weiner said it, the poster did). He sees where advertising is going but he's also not on his game to make the client want it, yet, because he's a mess. So the advert is good, but he just can't seal the deal.
Discotheque
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I could see Don Draper being a hollywood executive
actually possibly not but why would he go back to advertising again when he's got a clean slate and clients are still not ready for his shit?
actually possibly not but why would he go back to advertising again when he's got a clean slate and clients are still not ready for his shit?
Ok i watched the penultimate episode yesterday and i kind of lost track and didnt understand what happened at the end.. first Campbell is all "i'm gonna have to get rid of that gay homosexual 'cause that shit is nasty and he's gonna steal my job" and two seconds later he's all "well everything is ok now, just don't fucking touch me"
What happened, what made him change his mind? I can't google this shit now, i'll just get season finale spoilers in my face :-/
What happened, what made him change his mind? I can't google this shit now, i'll just get season finale spoilers in my face :-/
brianjones
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"one never knows how loyalty is born"
Angry Fork
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Black Mamba
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He found out Bob isn't who he says he was.
The last time he went to war with someone like that it was Don. And it blew up in his face.
Pete realized he can't win versus someone who lies about himself so he tried to get on Bob's good side and stay afloat when Bob takes someone else's spot.
brianjones
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also Ted gonna run NY through Peggy ?
that sounds like a recipe for disaster
that sounds like a recipe for disaster
Black Mamba
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Nah, just oversee her since he's creative too. Mostly just to make sure she doesn't fuck up which I'm sure he knows she won't.
The only thing I didn't get is if they're making Peggy the creative director in NYC which makes sense, why are they bringing in an exec to replace Don? For what?
ah! Cheers!
brianjones
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I'm just picturing lots of really awkward and painful phone calls
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Likely to add some depth/olds boy club prestige to the department in regards to certain clients. Its still the 60's and with both Ted and Don not being around to run interference with some clients. I could see them disregarding peggy because she is a woman.
She'll still run the show but the new guy can help placate any of those sexist clents worries.
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was the implication of the Roger/Benson scene that Roger knew something about Benson's sexuality?
I had a really hard time reading Roger.
I had a really hard time reading Roger.
Vulcano's assistant
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Having such a pivotal scene build around your product is probably one of the best ads Hershey's could pay for. Hell I want some Hershey's now.
Well, I never expected them to go the redemption route with Don, but if they were going to this is a really fantastic way to go start it. I also think it somewhat justifies the flashbacks, imo. Giving us a more solid narrative frame for the place he brings his kids to helps give it meaning.
Fantastic finale, hope this is a new positive start for Don but knowing Weiner this little redemption is temporary and next season he's gonna start drinking and be an asshole again. 
The line that stood out the most for me was "Going down?", I said DAMN.
Also, what do I do with my sundays now that this season is over? The wait for BB is gonna be awful.
The line that stood out the most for me was "Going down?", I said DAMN.
Also, what do I do with my sundays now that this season is over? The wait for BB is gonna be awful.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Peggie sitting in Don's chair was so boss. We all know where its going to go!
HP_Wuvcraft
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Seriously.
There's a HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE between not liking what you did and completely invalidating it.
SirIgbyCeaser
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Amazing episode. The type of finale that makes me want to see the whole season/series again.
By the way, did Ted tell don to drink before the meeting to sabotage him?
By the way, did Ted tell don to drink before the meeting to sabotage him?
Great episode. Don really had it coming, I laughed at all the California opportunity battling and was kind of relieved when Megan left. As Peter's wife said, this is all about starting over. Ted always pisses me off, him being so melodramatic about sleeping with Peggy and then being such a goddamn saint when telling her off. I really liked the tone of Bert Cooper's voice when he said 'no' Don can't have a return date. Good television.
From Sepinwall's interview with Weiner:
I think it has to do with his alcohol withdrawal as well, we see his hand twitching.
I don't know why but he was the one that stood out the most to me in that scene. So blunt and to the point, and didn't give a shit what Don had to say. Joan couldn't look at him, the dude from Teds' firm obviously doesn't give a shit about Don because he was pretty much forced to work with him, Roger kinda held his hand out a bit and said something like "come on man, you ain't seeing what we seeing... you fuckin up, son", but Bert was just ice cold. He gave zero fucks about his past relationship with Don.
Fairly Rational
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Bunch of fucking snakes in that office. Holy shit. Joan couldn't even look him in the eye when they fired Don. I really should have picked up on it sooner. After all this is exactly what they did to Lane. He was in a hole and nobody else would help him dig out of it. Don's downward spiral finally hit bottom and he's ready to dig himself out, at least. Not just hang it up like Lane.
I'm glad Don is finally free of that miserable shit hole. Pete's out, too. Maybe things will finally work out for those guys. If next season really is the last one I can see them committing to something this huge.
Also, I don't think that shot of Peggy in Don's office meant she took his job. Ted's in charge, not her, and that old guy Duck brought in would take Don's job before Peggy got his chair. People forget that even though she's been working there close to a decade, she's a woman. The only people who are partners, who have any power whatsoever, are old guys and a complacent woman. I hope Peggy likes middle management, because she just hit the glass fucking ceiling.
Such a frustrating episode but also incredibly satisfying. Things are a mess, but there's a light at the end of the tunnel. At least for Don and Pete.
I'm glad Don is finally free of that miserable shit hole. Pete's out, too. Maybe things will finally work out for those guys. If next season really is the last one I can see them committing to something this huge.
Also, I don't think that shot of Peggy in Don's office meant she took his job. Ted's in charge, not her, and that old guy Duck brought in would take Don's job before Peggy got his chair. People forget that even though she's been working there close to a decade, she's a woman. The only people who are partners, who have any power whatsoever, are old guys and a complacent woman. I hope Peggy likes middle management, because she just hit the glass fucking ceiling.
Such a frustrating episode but also incredibly satisfying. Things are a mess, but there's a light at the end of the tunnel. At least for Don and Pete.
I think it ties into a lot of things that have been happening in the last few episodes. I definitely think his daughter catching him bang the doctors wife is messing with him and his identity a lot which is causing him to be even more out of control with his drinking. Even his moment of "clarity" with Megan was short lived. That was even brought up by Ted (well, enabled) before the meeting with Hershey and that going cold turkey doesn't work. What did Don do? Slammed a glass of whiskey before the meeting. Before, his drinking was a way to do away with his past, but now it's doing the opposite. Which is why he wanted to run to California and start over, because that's what he does, but it seems like his lies are starting to get to him.
What an interesting finale. A couple of big storyline changes were revealed but they were done in rather muted fashion. No hangings and what not. Need a couple of GIFs:
- Pete's smile just before he crashes the car.
- Don and his daughter looking at each other right at the end.
- Pete's smile just before he crashes the car.
- Don and his daughter looking at each other right at the end.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I thought he chose exile alongside ted?
SirIgbyCeaser
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Pete is going with Ted to California. That's confirmed he's still at SCP its just their new office with a skeleton crew.
Absolutely. He didn't finish the drink he poured before he went into the Hershey meeting, the half drunk glass was still on his desk when Peggy sat down.
Dayum. Great finale and I loved the last scene, so powerful. I was already getting ready for Mad Men LA and bam, fired. It was logical that he got after his antics this season (was there an episode where he wasn't late for a meeting or didn't even know about it?). Peggy got destroyed, yet again. Bob Bunson was amazing, as usual.
I still can't get over how hilarious the entire Manolo storyline is. Even down to his name. Manolo. It really shouldn't be that funny in a series like that, especially since it ends with what could possibly be a goddamned murder. Though I didn't understand the line "Manolo Cologne alias Markus Constantine", does that mean he was posing with a fake identity too?
As for list wars, I don't think I enjoyed any previous season as much as I did this one. Terrific stuff really. Great rebound from what I considered the weakest season of the series.
6>4=3>1>2>5
I still can't get over how hilarious the entire Manolo storyline is. Even down to his name. Manolo. It really shouldn't be that funny in a series like that, especially since it ends with what could possibly be a goddamned murder. Though I didn't understand the line "Manolo Cologne alias Markus Constantine", does that mean he was posing with a fake identity too?
As for list wars, I don't think I enjoyed any previous season as much as I did this one. Terrific stuff really. Great rebound from what I considered the weakest season of the series.
6>4=3>1>2>5
As Frost_Ace said, the alcohol's a blanket. Once that's taken from him he'll do things like that. It's no coincidence he delivered the BS pitch after being told to tank up before-hand and it's only after (and before his revelation) we see the alcohol withdrawals and the realisation of his actions on Ted's face.
sixteen-bit
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Did Hershey's pay for product placement? They were really prominent this episode.
BertramCooper
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Speaking of Hershey's, I had no idea they used to be averse to advertising. I love it when the show throws in interesting tidbits like that.
Ignatz Mouse
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Worst season for me is 2. They didn't really know what to do with the show for a while there.
S5 is certainly different, but I loved it nonetheless.
S5 is certainly different, but I loved it nonetheless.
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