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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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PartlyCloudlike

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So those flashbacks. What are they trying to tell us? That Don has lingering mommy issues that makes him incapable of being faithful to one woman? To spy through a keyhole and see your pregnant mom about to have sex with a brothel owner, that's the kind of image that leaves a mark.
 
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maharg

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SaltyDoughnut said:
is this
ketchup conundrum
finally bringing us to the point that many of us called last season in which
Peggy and Don
go head to head?

oh boy.
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Not sure why you spoilered that.

I imagine if Peggy lands Ketchup (or nearly does) and Don finds out it'll light a fire under his ass to suddenly want to get it. And then Ken will go wtf dude.
 
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Dominican Power

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Wasn't Don's mother a prostitute? So that wasn't his biological mother. It's crazy how her sister just pimps her out to her husband like that. Pete is such a chump. How does your wife let have you have an apartment in the city to have your liaisons with other women and manage to fuck that up?
 
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Leona Lewis

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hateradio said:
Things seem so much more heavy handed than they were in the past.
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Really?

The only thing that struck me that way was that "People will do anything to alleviate their anxiety" line in the first episode. And that's not a patch on S3's "And who are you supposed to be?" Now that was cringe-inducingly nail on the head.
 
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hateradio

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Well, there are moments in the series where it does go that way, but some dialogue in the last episode and this episode have been reemphasized as to leave no subtlety. I guess I noticed it more last season, too. But I never really felt that way previously.
 
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Leona Lewis

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hateradio said:
Well, there are moments in the series where it does go that way, but the last episode and this episode seem to reemphasize what they're saying as to leave no subtlety. I guess I noticed it more last season, too. But I never really felt that way previously.
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I still don't get it.

The whole series has been chock-full of these visual and dialogue "reinforcers" that reiterate the main themes. The blatant metaphor with the caged birds in S1 (great Betty moment, by the way), for instance, or Pete's overcompensatory BB rifle, or the grand story of Peggy's hairstyles (alongside her inner transformation).

You're just noticing them now because these metaphors are just so expected after six seasons of slow progression.
 
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HP_Wuvcraft

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GQman2121 said:
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Don was in full Don Mode.

He both tanked a client out of sheer will (while at the same time nailing the presentation, mind you), and basically read the future with the ferocity of an oncoming train: "I'm going to rip open your dress".
 
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Dmax3901

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I never even suspected Mad Men of being 'heavy-handed' before I read about how people thought it was heavy-handed here on GAF.

It's weird how, out of all the shows discussed on GAF, heavy-handedness is rarely used outside of this thread. Is it like this shows buzzword?
 
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CassSept

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Wow, that was a great episode. Trudy truly annihilated Pete. Don gonna Don. So far definitely a better start than a year ago.

PartlyCloudlike said:
So those flashbacks. What are they trying to tell us? That Don has lingering mommy issues that makes him incapable of being faithful to one woman? To spy through a keyhole and see your pregnant mom about to have sex with a brothel owner, that's the kind of image that leaves a mark.
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That was his stepmother, his mother died giving birth to him. What looked odd is that Don (Dick) is supposed to be 10 in the flashbacks and he looks slightly older than that, but it's... a minor inconvenience.

PS. Hah at all the minor quips about North Korea around the episode. What a timing.
 
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Divius

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Pete getting destroyed at home and at work, I feel so bad for the poor scumbag :p

Peggy still awesome, despite messing up.
 
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Bladenic

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The North Korea quips and the fact that this episode aired today... Is Mattew Weiner some sort of seer?

Also thinking about it, the "I will destroy you" line seemed a bit much. I mean it wa great to watch but it sort of didn't really fit. Trudy is still a bad bitch though.
 
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SirIgbyCeaser

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Bladenic said:
Also thinking about it, the "I will destroy you" line seemed a bit much. I mean it wa great to watch but it sort of didn't really fit. Trudy is still a bad bitch though.
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Her family gave pete everything.

She can and will destroy him. Don't expect pete to keep his job at sterling cooper. No matter how many clients he has.
 
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f0rk

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I feel like shit is going down in this episode and it's barely 15 minutes in

OH SHIT HERBS HERE

lol Pete picked the wrong chick to have an affair with
 
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Cornballer

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Empty

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pete seducing that girl made my skin crawl. wasn't expecting that from trudy though, amazing. vincent kartheiser also seems to be morphing into micheal sheen with every reduction of his hair line.

peggy and stan's friendship is adorable. hope the ketchup stuff doesn't torpedo their relationship.

also joan on the jaguar guy 'there's parts of you you haven't seen in years' omfg

don dinner scene reminded me too much of that scene where he puts his hand up bobbie baretts dress, weiner exploring hyper masculinity isn't that great to me.
 
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sixteen-bit

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In the scene with Megan and Sylvia chatting inside the apartment, I thought they were talking about real life shit which was a funny contrast to Sylvia interpreting the miscarriage as a soap opera plot line.
 
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Niraj

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ilnadmy said:
I really liked Season 5, I don't know what you guys are talking about. I don't think Mad Men has had a bad season yet.
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Ignatz Mouse said:
If Mad Men has a bad season, it's S2.
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Agree with both of you.

Just finished watching the episode. Loved Joan telling off the Jaguar douche (and Don owning him too. Roger's realization during that scene was awesome) and Trudy finally giving Pete the reaming he always deserves. Thought this was better overall than the episode last season that Jon Hamm directed, though the flashbacks felt kind of unnecessary. Interested to see how Peggy will react to being forced to be a bit more cutthroat, and to see where Bob Benson is headed (the next Pete?).
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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I like T&L, but they seem to be making the same mistake a lot of people are-- looking at this as a standalone hour of entertainment and finding it wanting, as opposed to a chapter of something longer. The flashback scenes and Don't cheating are not reruns, they are the early pieces of this season's narrative, and we really have no idea where things are headed with either. I am sure we will see more flashback of post-Dad Dick, and that the affair is going to resolve somehow differently than any previous one. I also expect we will see Drunk Don more often, as well.
 
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f0rk

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Does anyone feel like Megans 'how I was bought up' thing doesn't really match with her parents? They don't seem the Catholic type.
 
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Byakuya769

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f0rk said:
Does anyone feel like Megans 'how I was bought up' thing doesn't really match with her parents? They don't seem the Catholic type.
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Her father is an atheist, but her mother is catholic, and her mother came stateside for Easter. So abortion being an issue seems realistic to me.
 
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Dany

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THe makeup on Peggy's secretary is obnoxious.

"The coca-cola of condiments." Aw Kenny :(

"I had no idea you'd be darkening my doorway" OH SNAP

"What did you say to him." OMG I want Pete to die this episode. WOW

OMG. Trudy is going to leave him!?! :D YAY, go trudy!

Don is such a smooth cucumber.
 
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plantedunicorn

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I thought that episode was great and I vastly preferred it to last week. Pete has got to be the dumbest person alive. He deserves everything wrong that happens to him.

For the lack of coming off as an idiot, what happened in that Ketchup scene? Raymond works at SCDP and was in charge of Heinz baked beans and he brings the guy that represents Ketchup to show that they're friends, when in reality it's not really like that? Any explaination?
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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plantedunicorn said:
I thought that episode was great and I vastly preferred it to last week. Pete has got to be the dumbest person alive. He deserves everything wrong that happens to him.

For the lack of coming off as an idiot, what happened in that Ketchup scene? Raymond works at SCDP and was in charge of Heinz baked beans and he brings the guy that represents Ketchup to show that they're friends, when in reality it's not really like that? Any explaination?
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Raymond works for Heinz doing Beans. The other guy is his internal competition, in charge of a much more important part of Heinz, Ketchup. He brought him in because he was asked, but in reality he wants to keep SCDP exclusive to Beans since they are doing a great job for him. He's (rightfully) proud of having signed SCDPP and doesn't want to be upstaged.
 
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plantedunicorn

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Ignatz Mouse said:
Raymond works for Heinz doing Beans. The other guy is his internal competition, in charge of a much more important part of Heinz, Ketchup. He brought him in because he was asked, but in reality he wants to keep SCDP exclusive to Beans since they are doing a great job for him. He's (rightfully) proud of having signed SCDPP and doesn't want to be upstaged.
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Oh thanks for clearing that up. If I was in Raymond's position I'd go apeshit too.
 
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