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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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Oh, I didn't know that crazy car scene ended in an accident. That's insane. In fact, I'm my suspension of disbelief is getting stretched pretty far by the idea that these car company execs are getting blind drunk and waving guns around while forcing Ken to drive recklessly, and then, after getting in an accident and injuring Ken, no one seems to care that this happened and they all just expect Ken to shrug it off and keep going out with these dude and do more insane crap that puts him in extreme danger, and that Ken himself doesn't seem to care either. All those car execs should be in jail, and Ken should quit his job before ever taking them out again.
 

Wool

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Oh, I didn't know that crazy car scene ended in an accident. That's insane. In fact, I'm my suspension of disbelief is getting stretched pretty far by the idea that these car company execs are getting blind drunk and waving guns around while forcing Ken to drive recklessly, and then, after getting in an accident and injuring Ken, no one seems to care that this happened and they all just expect Ken to shrug it off and keep going out with these dude and do more insane crap that puts him in extreme danger, and that Ken himself doesn't seem to care either. All those car execs should be in jail, and Ken should quit his job before ever taking them out again.

Ken complained about it at their meeting in the very beginning.


I think it's pretty unrealistic that Ken's first girlfriend would have taught him how to tap dance.
 

Kallor

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Ken complained about it at their meeting in the very beginning.


I think it's pretty unrealistic that Ken's first girlfriend would have taught him how to tap dance.

Ken complained about it, but no one at the meeting seemed to care. I mean, the guy could have been killed. I think it's also pretty unrealistic that Sally would think for even a second that the woman who broke into their apartment was her gandmother. I kept expecting this whole bizarre episode to be a dream sequence.
 
Yeah I was surprised to see Sepinwall not bring it up. In some ways this episode was a lot like the more manic moments in The Prisoner, so I think it was a very deliberate choice of placement.

Totally agree. I really wish we knew what episode it was so we could juxtapose or draw parallels
 

maharg

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Totally agree. I really wish we knew what episode it was so we could juxtapose or draw parallels

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out, I'm pretty sure the scene is one of the introductions to one of the Number 2s, and that was a different actor in nearly every episode.
 

ari

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I think it's pretty unrealistic that Ken's first girlfriend would have taught him how to tap dance.
My girlfriend taught me how to salsa and rock climb, and I taught her how to fish and lift weights.

Unrealistic? Not so much.
 

kingocfs

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Ken complained about it, but no one at the meeting seemed to care. I mean, the guy could have been killed. I think it's also pretty unrealistic that Sally would think for even a second that the woman who broke into their apartment was her gandmother. I kept expecting this whole bizarre episode to be a dream sequence.
Yeah it was a stretch, she should have said she was the maid or something.
 

maharg

idspispopd
Ken complained about it, but no one at the meeting seemed to care. I mean, the guy could have been killed. I think it's also pretty unrealistic that Sally would think for even a second that the woman who broke into their apartment was her gandmother. I kept expecting this whole bizarre episode to be a dream sequence.

She didn't, really. First chance she got she called the cops. But she didn't have any way to prove it conclusively, which probably seemed more important to her than it should have.
 

CrankyJay

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I like how Don turned around shit on Sylvia. She could have waited for the next elevator but she entered thinking Don would grovel but instead got a really weird and silent elevator ride. Boom.
 
I like how Don turned around shit on Sylvia. She could have waited for the next elevator but she entered thinking Don would grovel but instead got a really weird and silent elevator ride. Boom.
I think it was more surprise that he wasn't still begging. I don't think she went in wanting him back. Don isn't coming out of this situation on top.
 

RaidenZR

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So early in the episode when Don takes Dr. Rosen's call at work (when it's actually Sylvia to scold him about the cigarette butts), she says a line that is a little ambiguous and sounds a LOT like they ADR'd Megan's voice over Linda Cardellini's. On purpose. The line is:

"So if you ever really cared about me at all, knock it off."

Anyone else pick up on this? I can't unhear it now... And I have no way to be certain about it, but in an episode where they were toying with the trippy-ness, it certainly would fit right in (even though it happens well before Don gets his shot).

The implications of doing that are pretty easy to connect, too. It's like an alternate version of Megan pleading for Don to stop being a scumbag. At the same time the dialogue works for Sylvia, too.
 

GQman2121

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Just re-watched the episode. That opening with Ken and the Chevy people is exactly like George and the three guys from the Houston Astros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhaap42I2sc

It's so god damn funny.


Also.....

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Props to the catalyst of the entire episode. I'm glad Hamlin has been given scenes to flex his acting chops and breath a little life into the character that we know so little about. He can be the new Freddie if they work it right. I'd love to see an episode where he and Roger or he, Roger and Don have an adventure.
 

maharg

idspispopd
So early in the episode when Don takes Dr. Rosen's call at work (when it's actually Sylvia to scold him about the cigarette butts), she says a line that is a little ambiguous and sounds a LOT like they ADR'd Megan's voice over Linda Cardellini's. On purpose. The line is:

"So if you ever really cared about me at all, knock it off."

Anyone else pick up on this? I can't unhear it now... And I have no way to be certain about it, but in an episode where they were toying with the trippy-ness, it certainly would fit right in (even though it happens well before Don gets his shot).

The implications of doing that are pretty easy to connect, too. It's like an alternate version of Megan pleading for Don to stop being a scumbag. At the same time the dialogue works for Sylvia, too.

I think it's just because Sylvia usually seems so controlled and this was a moment of weakness in her voice that you're not used to hearing. It does sound a lot like Megan, but only because it's a tone that's fairly common to Megan.
 

RaidenZR

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I think it's just because Sylvia usually seems so controlled and this was a moment of weakness in her voice that you're not used to hearing. It does sound a lot like Megan, but only because it's a tone that's fairly common to Megan.

It's a dramatic shift though. For my ears, it literally sounds like Megan's voice took over.
 
I can certainly understand why most people loved this episode, and while it had some great comedic moments, I was left with a little less than an "eh" feeling. I usually don't like episodes that are so absurdly different in tone and style, such as the previous fever dream episode where he "killed" that woman, and I've never cared much for the Dick Whitman stuff, though they have greatly improved on how it is handled since the first season, which was atrocious in my opinion; the sole exception was the wife of Whitman which seemed genuine and a nice juxtaposition to the normal Don. Also, I feel the handling of the race issue this season has been subpar (see this podcast for a summary so seeing the thief be a black woman was just more of a ripple in that pool.

However, I've enjoyed this season so far, moreso than last's by this point in the season, and I loved the structure of this episode as well. Despite the time jumps and the kookiness, I didn't suffer from confusion as some of you suggested; everything made logical sense to me on first viewing.
 

Cipherr

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Loved the episode except for the portion where there is implied pedophilia with young Whitman and the prostitute. Everyone tripping in the office was freaking hilarious though.
 
Props to the catalyst of the entire episode. I'm glad Hamlin has been given scenes to flex his acting chops and breath a little life into the character that we know so little about. He can be the new Freddie if they work it right. I'd love to see an episode where he and Roger or he, Roger and Don have an adventure.
I still don't have a solid read on his character yet, but I love it. There are a couple interesting ways I think they could take him.
 

jtb

Banned
this episode was phenomenal minus the absolutely terrible, ridiculously heavy-handed flashbacks. why does Weiner feel the need to ruin Don's character, ugh. stop it.
 

CassSept

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Now I can't get one scene that I found absolutely hilarious out of my head, yet I don't see it brought up at all in this thread.

It was overshadowed by tapdancing scene, but right after it, after Don chases Kenny down the hall and casually enters creative's room to deliver out of the blue this spontaneous ridiculous pitch

“I know you are all feeling the darkness. There is a way around this system. This is a test of our patience and commitment. One great idea could win someone over.”

I dunno, but I can't stop laughing at the entire sequence
 

pigeon

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Now I can't get one scene that I found absolutely hilarious out of my head, yet I don't see it brought up at all in this thread.

It was overshadowed by tapdancing scene, but right after it, after Don chases Kenny down the hall and casually enters creative's room to deliver out of the blue this spontaneous ridiculous pitch

“I know you are all feeling the darkness. There is a way around this system. This is a test of our patience and commitment. One great idea could win someone over.”

I dunno, but I can't stop laughing at the entire sequence

Don's pitch is one of my favorite parts of the entire show. It's simultaneously so Don Draper and so drug addict. Every line is the perfect segue into a brilliant explanation of the product...except it's followed by ANOTHER perfect segue, into another perfect segue, into another..,
 
Don's pitch is one of my favorite parts of the entire show. It's simultaneously so Don Draper and so drug addict. Every line is the perfect segue into a brilliant explanation of the product...except it's followed by ANOTHER perfect segue, into another perfect segue, into another..,

Yeah, it was like stumbling into a list of Don phrases with no context. Great moment.
 

Pie and Beans

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Yeah I was surprised to see Sepinwall not bring it up. In some ways this episode was a lot like the more manic moments in The Prisoner, so I think it was a very deliberate choice of placement.

Nothing will ever match the final episode of The Prisoner. Nothing. I really wanted LOST to end in a similar "LETS GO FUCKING CRAZY" aspect.

And yeah, definitely matched this episode. Don is so fucked up. I'm not sure if the end of the episode is Don actually making his first step this season to dealing with how fucked up he is.
 
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