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Madden 360-"Talk about your 4th Quarter comeback"
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I loved NFl2kx also....but I know where to draw the line. The defensive side of the ball was so unbalanced against other people, it was damn near unplayable. It took all the fun outta the game when someone could run a bear defense against you and be succsessful against 4 wides.
That said, EA's game is more playable and thats important. Even though they are behind the times in the most important area.
That said, EA's game is more playable and thats important. Even though they are behind the times in the most important area.
shpankey
not an idiot
It really surprises me ANYONE could think this looks next-gen. I just don't see it.
I hate the field.
I hate the animations (herky jerky shit).
I hate the 30fps.
I hate that it doesn't have Madden.
Did I mention how much I hate that flat shitty field texture?
Why does everyone run funny? It just looks off.
Nothing is smooth (which is usually a trademark of all the Madden's gameplay - BUTTA).
The only redeeming factor on the graphics is the amazing detail on the stadiums... but to be honest, I'd give that up for a parallax mapped field with an awesome texture and 60fps smoothness.
It just looks rushed to me, to be frank. I'm probably going to pass on this (and stick with Madden 06 Xbox 1) till next year when they get it all right. I'm going to pretend this game never existed. Besides, I'll be playing one of the awesome basketball games (waiting for reviews of gameplay of both).
I hate the field.
I hate the animations (herky jerky shit).
I hate the 30fps.
I hate that it doesn't have Madden.
Did I mention how much I hate that flat shitty field texture?
Why does everyone run funny? It just looks off.
Nothing is smooth (which is usually a trademark of all the Madden's gameplay - BUTTA).
The only redeeming factor on the graphics is the amazing detail on the stadiums... but to be honest, I'd give that up for a parallax mapped field with an awesome texture and 60fps smoothness.
It just looks rushed to me, to be frank. I'm probably going to pass on this (and stick with Madden 06 Xbox 1) till next year when they get it all right. I'm going to pretend this game never existed. Besides, I'll be playing one of the awesome basketball games (waiting for reviews of gameplay of both).
imastalker co.
Banned
i got into football games back in 2003 but got burnt out of them pretty fast that year, ESPN was an obvious notch above Madden i felt.dskillzhtown said:
shpankey said:
The game is rushed. You can thank MS for launching the 360 in 2005 for that. Gamers are paying 60 bucks to be a next gen Madden beta tester this year.
Madden 07 will be the real deal and the true next gen Madden.
This last part isn't directed at you, but I don't necessarily disagree with the 2K fans about Madden 06 360 looking disappointing, but for different reasons. I get annoyed seeing the same lame graphical arguments being brought up. Graphics are the least of the problems at the moment.
Mrbob said:
As I said, this can explain things like yesteryear's animations...but not missing graphical features VC made standard in Xbox football games.
Again, Madden 2006 doesn't compare to NFL 2K5 from a technological level, and it's not like EA didn't have a chance to get Xbox final dev kits in time.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
the only thing 2k5 had on madden 2005/2006 is the character models looked nicer. the animations were arguably worse than madden. very herky-jerky, stick up the ass animations while running, and a slew of other graphical problems (matrix animations, catching with your elbows, etc).
but i do agree with the overall disappointment in this thread. i dont give a shit about any type of graphical innovation (vector mapping and bump mapping and whatever else), the game doesn't look like it's going to play very smooth. that is what separates madden from other football games, it actually plays well
DCX said:
After all the videos I've seen for Madden 360, I personally vote to keep season 3 on Xbox. But we'll see what everyone else thinks and if Madden 360 actually turns out to be halfway decent. But watching these vids it looks like the game will need more than 2 weeks work. More like 9 months work i.e. getting ready for 07.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
season 3 = x360 or bust! there will be no madden 2006 xbox season 3, mostly because a lot of people either wont have an xbox or madden and we dont know if madden 06 is backwards compatible (i guarantee it wont be)
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
don't worry fellas, i have confidence EA will pull the game together and make it work. come on EA, you know how this game should run. don't release it until it meets that standard (i dont care if you have to delay it a few weeks or a month)
sportzhead
Member
Well after this video and the ones from GI, I have officially given up on Madden. I'll replace it with Fifa or something else. I just hope next years version is a whole lot better. I'll give it a rental but I just can't justify purchasing it. There is no excitement to it, no game-day feel, nothing that makes me go wow.
truffleshuffle83
Banned
you guys are fuckin unbeleivable. this game shits on any other football game weve ever seen.
doesnt look better than current ps2 madden??? STFU appearantly youve never played madden on a big screen. can you say jag fest
get a clue. they already said next years is gonna be the better game due to the physics they are implementing, so if you want to wait go ahead ..... just find another thread to troll
im ready to play next gen football in 2 weeks
doesnt look better than current ps2 madden??? STFU appearantly youve never played madden on a big screen. can you say jag fest
get a clue. they already said next years is gonna be the better game due to the physics they are implementing, so if you want to wait go ahead ..... just find another thread to troll
im ready to play next gen football in 2 weeks
That video pretty much convinced me to cancel my preorder. Stiff animations, terrible presentation (I hate how, following every play, some guy has to mug for the camera for eight seconds -- and, yeah, Marvin Harrison would not do that celebration. It's little things like that that show EA doesn't care about getting the details right!)
U.2.K. Tha Greate$t
Banned
DenogginizerOS said:Damn, I feel like THIS and its two weeks away from launch!
I am the happy penguin!
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, so cute......
Liquid said:
That's a great point. There's tons of detail we aren't seeing here, but it all ties into the right choices being made to avoid diminishing returns.
The guys at 1up are far more impressed and rightly so. They are able to see nearly every thread stitched on the jerseys and such, whereas we can't.
My perspective is from a graphic whore who has a programming background and has played with game engines since you could edit DOOM wads...and I have my own beliefs as to what impresses people, makes things look more realistic and convincing. I was hoping that this gen would not just be higher res, higher poly and better textures, but also better lighting. We saw this trend on the last couple year's worth of Xbox titles, from DOOM 3 to Riddick to NFL 2K5 to Halo 2. I'm disappointed that this game is missing stuff that last gen football games even offered, from a graphical perspective.
EA did an excellent job with so many things in this game (stadiums, faces, detail on players), but I feel underwhelmed simply because of EA's competition doing things on a last gen console that EA couldn't.
I commend the artists but not the graphics programmers/art directors. Hey, it could be the 360 hardware not being up to snuff too. I'm not discounting that either.
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
I'm going to get PDZ or CoD2 instead of Madden. It just doesn't look like there is any kind of improvement gameplay wise to warrant a purchase. I'm not going to pay $60 bucks on another Madden for better graphics. 1 Madden purchase is enough for the year.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i sometimes wonder why you bother coming into these threads and responding. you've already admitted in the past that you don't care about football games, that you haven't bought a football game in X number of years, and that you wouldn't buy a madden football game anyways. why do you give a shit? if you aren't going to buy an xbox 360 (which i don't know that you are or not) and you aren't going to buy madden (pretty clear you weren't going to even if it looked incredible) why bother?
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I held off for this version.
shpankey
not an idiot
For the record, I think the field looks like shit... but graphically other than that it looks ok to good to great [stadiums] depending on the specific feature you're looking at; but overall I am certainly not wow'ed [or even impressed, really, when comparing to games like NBA Live, which does wow me] with the graphics.DaddyZ said:
oh, and I absolutely agree about it appearing to move like shit (which took up half my complaints on my list) to be my biggest problem with it. nothing is smooth.. the animation transitions, the player movement, the framerate, all have issues in the smooth dept.
And yes, the field turf being a blurry, super flat, unimpressive, plain texture really does bother me (a lot). But I would certainly overlook that, easily, if the game was 60fps and played and felt smooth (like the trademark Madden we are all so accustomed to).
That really doesnt look very good. The Stadiums and fans look great, but the models and animation are ass.
I'll get next years game. It should have improved graphics and hopefully they correct that visioncone BS. Plus, the game wouldnt have much shelf life for online play this late into the season... and over 1/4th of the year that you normally have with a football game is gone. I have a hard enough time paying 60 dollars for a game that is largely the same for a year, let alone 8-9 months. I know, its not just a roster update, but I wouldnt buy a sequal to any other game that was so substantially similar.
I'll get next years game. It should have improved graphics and hopefully they correct that visioncone BS. Plus, the game wouldnt have much shelf life for online play this late into the season... and over 1/4th of the year that you normally have with a football game is gone. I have a hard enough time paying 60 dollars for a game that is largely the same for a year, let alone 8-9 months. I know, its not just a roster update, but I wouldnt buy a sequal to any other game that was so substantially similar.
iceDragon7
Banned
I'll be buying this game along with 2 others. But wheres the cone vision?
Peyton Manning + Marvin Harrison = A perfect QB and Randy Moss Rated WR
New cheeser team for Madden 360 will definetly be the Colts.
I'm not liking the way the game is ending up but I'll get used to it. Especially since its for 360.
Peyton Manning + Marvin Harrison = A perfect QB and Randy Moss Rated WR
New cheeser team for Madden 360 will definetly be the Colts.
I'm not liking the way the game is ending up but I'll get used to it. Especially since its for 360.
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iceDragon7 said:
Cone is optional in this version
I really dont wanna come down on EA because when they do games right (NCAA 2004,MVP2004-5) they get all the praise in the world from me. But madden/live are just downright disgusting in the gameplay department. I dont need a controller in my hands to see that they move like shit. I mean when are they gonna get some better mo-cap? or better yet scrap that shit all together because its not looking good. For the most part I can appreicate what they've done in the "short" timeframe given but I have a hard time believing they are gonna scrap all the animations from this and start all over. But I guess if 2kgames can do it (2k4-2k6) EA can also.
Rant Over
Rant Over
sportzhead
Member
It really doesn't feel like Madden, at least as far as I can tell from viewing the movies. It just seems so uncharacteristically unpolished. I almost feel like I'm seeing next-gen NFL Fever instead of next-gen Madden, or maybe it's just all the Peyton shots 
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