indigo-cyclops
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Mafia II |OT| Hey Vito, drive me to the other side of town
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speculawyer
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Downloading now. I still have some work to finish and by the time I'm done, it should be downloaded. 
Of course I'm tired as hell since I got up at 5 am.
Of course I'm tired as hell since I got up at 5 am.
speculawyer
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Chrange said:
I think the shitty manuals of recent years has been a conspiracy to get us all to adopt digital distribution.
It worked.
zero margin
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between 1.0 and 1.5 mb/s here, don't matter. play tomorrow.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
I only played the ps3 demo, but comparing it to gow3 and uncharted 2 it's pretty bad. Plus the PC ver is so sexy.MMaRsu said:
EvilDick34
Banned
I am quite unhappy 2K did not let us pre-load the game. Pretty lame that i have a lousy connection thanks to AT&T and hence i cannot play this tonite.
MMaRsu said:
I actually like this. Its clearly not trying to be GTA. Mafia 1 was like this, not really a sandbox game, and i appreciate they kept it that way. I think i like my games more linear sometimes, and im ok with the town being more of a fun hub to get from mission A to mission B than a completely open place to do lame stuff.
Assuming that this fact gave them time to really polish the main story and missions, of course
indigo-cyclops
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Didn't even take an hour and a half! Steam love all-around.
sweetvar26
Member
Hopefully we will have some pics of the Collector's Edition tomorrow.
I am really loving this game so far. I think the shooting and driving are just fine, just like they were in the demo. They're not amazing, but they're certainly not bad in any way.
But what makes this game great so far is the incredibly well crafted world and the immersion it creates. Empire Bay in Chapter 2 is a pretty incredibly experience. I'm not going to bother reading reviews until I beat the game, but so far I'm really happy I kept my pre-order.
Of course playing it on PC makes it all easier to enjoy as well.
But what makes this game great so far is the incredibly well crafted world and the immersion it creates. Empire Bay in Chapter 2 is a pretty incredibly experience. I'm not going to bother reading reviews until I beat the game, but so far I'm really happy I kept my pre-order.
Of course playing it on PC makes it all easier to enjoy as well.
cjtiger300
Member
I will be picking this up for the PS3 tomorrow! I look forward to playing it tomorrow night!!!!!
Games.On.Net PC Review
So then, we're left with a brilliant action game that is polished in every respect - narrative, technology, audio, voice acting; even the historical accuracy is faultless. It's no Grand Theft Auto, but it never wanted to be - go into this game knowing that and you won't be disappointed.
5/5
So then, we're left with a brilliant action game that is polished in every respect - narrative, technology, audio, voice acting; even the historical accuracy is faultless. It's no Grand Theft Auto, but it never wanted to be - go into this game knowing that and you won't be disappointed.
5/5
Always-honest
Banned
i'm still considering the 360 version.
i LIKE the shooting mechanics. I just hope the driving isn't a big part of the game. it sucks.
i LIKE the shooting mechanics. I just hope the driving isn't a big part of the game. it sucks.
Incredible atmosphere, the music and the look of the city is very well done. I don't have a problem with the driving so it's not a minus for me. So far there's been a good amount of indoor environments and they look amazing, hell, the entire game looks incredible on pc. So glad I bought it.
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MacBosse said:
Not really, but people were destined to complain about the 'sandbox' aspects, or lack thereof. It's a valid complaint if you want a sandbox game, but the point myself and others have been stressing since the game was announced is that Mafia has never tried to be a sandbox game, not in the traditional 'Grand Theft Auto' sense. It's always been more linear and focused, with the sandbox aspect more of a backdrop.
So when you get reviews hurr durring about sandbox issues you cant help but feel they missed the entire point. It would be like complaining that GTA's car controls and combat plays much like an arcade game. A valid complaint on a personal level, but if you go in with those expectations you've missed the point of the product to begin with.
wormstrangler
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Majora said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-23-mafia-ii-review
Interesting that GTA games rarely get this type of criticism.
>_>....
People take reviews so srsly, its kinda sad given how terrible they are 99.9% of the time...
Honestly... the last time I think a read or watched a full review was MGS3, the game they praised that was unplayable rubbish.
At that moment I realised, its all a load of crap, and 'journalists' in this industry are just hacks and morons waiting for konami to ring and offer em a job.
.... well, maybe not Konami.
People take reviews so srsly, its kinda sad given how terrible they are 99.9% of the time...
Honestly... the last time I think a read or watched a full review was MGS3, the game they praised that was unplayable rubbish.
At that moment I realised, its all a load of crap, and 'journalists' in this industry are just hacks and morons waiting for konami to ring and offer em a job.
.... well, maybe not Konami.
as far as the Eurogamer review goes, I definitely didn't agree with their 4/10 for the original Mafia game. My understanding is that this plays relatively the same- linear story, open world environment structure. There weren't many side missions (although Free Ride was nice) and the game had some enthralling set pieces.
I'm hoping that the story is actually well written; this is the main concern. Eurogamer trashes it, Gamespot says it is exciting, D-toid says it has it's moments- who knows? It's all opinion.
I'm hoping that the story is actually well written; this is the main concern. Eurogamer trashes it, Gamespot says it is exciting, D-toid says it has it's moments- who knows? It's all opinion.
Mailenstein
Member
So, I just finished the game with 13:36h on the clock - beware, I'm a slower type, so this could probably be done in 8-10h.
Had high hopes for this game, since I didn't like that mission design in GTA4 with all it's sidestories and choppy storytelling. I would say I've got satisfied pretty much.
were a letdown to me tho, but I really liked the pace of the story telling in general.
Anyway, I don't want to go too much into detail, but the audiovisuals are great. I really felt like I'm in NYC's 40s and 50s listening to that perfectly fitting music. The mood was most of the time right - the weather is really awesome. So yeah, if I had to rate it, it would be a 7,5/10.
Had high hopes for this game, since I didn't like that mission design in GTA4 with all it's sidestories and choppy storytelling. I would say I've got satisfied pretty much.
The ending; actually the last two chapters
Anyway, I don't want to go too much into detail, but the audiovisuals are great. I really felt like I'm in NYC's 40s and 50s listening to that perfectly fitting music. The mood was most of the time right - the weather is really awesome. So yeah, if I had to rate it, it would be a 7,5/10.
VALIS said:
Brad Shoemaker criticizes it for not being a sandbox game when it never even pretends to be. The Mafia games are purposefully linear because they deal heavily in storytelling. They're almost purely story-driven.
Having a large city doesn't make your game a sandbox game, and it also doesn't mean that's what you're attempting. People conflate "open-world" with "sandbox" far too often, and they mean two entirely different things.
Tears For Fears
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LOL Not buying a game because of reviews. This is so smashing, it's not like we have brains and can formulate opinions by ourselves. Nope, can't even rent games either!
speculawyer
Member
I like driving with the controller when it is set on 'simulation'. It really drives well that way. Nice simulation of driving on a snowy road.
Kabuki Waq
Member
Tears For Fears said:
yes lets waste $50(PC) and then formulate our opinions? I really really wanted this games to be awesome but due to the crappy reviews and the fact that there is way more driving then shooting I will be passing on this games and wait for a steam deal.
Even most Gaffers who haave played the game are dissapointed. At some point you have realize the game seems B level
I thought this had to be a typo somehow, but you're right, they actually did give the original on the PC a 4/10. Unbelievable.dreamfall said:
I guess I'll just have to accept that Mafia is not for everyone. I've learned over the years that people who don't like Mafia have a complete different mindset than I have. I love the fact that you can get speeding tickets, they hate it. I loved the racing mission in the first game, they hate it. I loved the fact that the cars are realistically slow, they hate it. For me, that stuff all adds to the great atmosphere. While they think it makes for a horrible sandbox game.
Funny how people take offense with unfavorable reviews. Don't agree with a reviewer? Just ignore and move on. No review ever claims to be the truth - just as a post on this forum is an expression of someone's opinion, the same goes for a review.
And don't bother with the "Reviewer X didn't *get* the game" or "he's playing it wrong!" argument. It's all subjective, let's not forget that.
And don't bother with the "Reviewer X didn't *get* the game" or "he's playing it wrong!" argument. It's all subjective, let's not forget that.
OMG B level? What a junk. And "most Gaffers" seemed to love the demo and I would wait for more impressions, the full game just unlocked some hours ago and it comes out in europe in 3 days (dammit).Kabuki Waq said:yes lets waste $50(PC) and then formulate our opinions? I really really wanted this games to be awesome but due to the crappy reviews and the fact that there is way more driving then shooting I will be passing on this games and wait for a steam deal.
Even most Gaffers who haave played the game are dissapointed. At some point you have realize the game seems B level
disappeared
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I must have played a different demo (360) than what's in those comparison shots because the game looked downright gorgeous overall. Probably give it a rent.
Kabuki Waq said:yes lets waste $50(PC) and then formulate our opinions? I really really wanted this games to be awesome but due to the crappy reviews and the fact that there is way more driving then shooting I will be passing on this games and wait for a steam deal.
Even most Gaffers who haave played the game are dissapointed. At some point you have realize the game seems B level
Who is "most gaffers?"
Roarer said:
It's probably worth pointing out that it's still quite possible for a review to actually *be* wrong. I worked (briefly) on a game on PS2 which shared a title with an Xbox game but was actually a different game. The PS2 version was arguably superior (but then I would say that!), but we had to deal with a number of review outlets who reviewed the Xbox version as both versions.
Not that I'm saying that this is or isn't actually wrong, I have no knowledge either way.
Roarer said:
Well, there's subjective and then there is missing the point entirely. Some of these reviewers see "big city" "missions" and "crime" and thinks its an open world sandbox GTA clone. Mafia is not and it never, ever has been.
If a reviewer takes it for what it is, they're on the right path. Whether they like it or not, at least they actually understand what the game is instead of what it isn't.
Then there is just stupidity, like this gem.
What he just described was every single main character in any open world game or any non-RPG game that doesn't give options. From John Marston to Niko to whoever. There is seriously no difference here. Its even worse when a character does bitch and moan (like Marston) because they end up doing it anyways so its all sound and fury signifying nothing.