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But, and as much as higher numbers are good for town, two players dying (day/night) does give us a slightly smaller pool to choose from. And it's not like mafia has any idea who the PRs are, so it's just blind luck.
That said, let's vote Salva.
The main benefit I see to not lynching Day 1 is that, assuming we'll continue the game with 1/1 kills per Day/Night, it buys us an extra day. It doesn't seem so important right now, but we have everything except hindsight right now.
I'm open to discussing the pros/cons of a smaller or larger pool of Town voters, but let me just end this response here and move on to the next point.
Ah and that's where I disagree. The people who have created a pattern, talked, made claims, had to defend themselves. Those people do actually provide information, past that if someone is not contributing to town in any tangible way, day 1 is the perfect time to policy lynch them, when there is little to go on anyway and one player is as good as any other. In a game this small, I'd caution the second route but the game probably has less scum because of the smaller start size so that tactic is still viable IMO.
What patterns? I read through the thread, and it's mostly bullshitting about Nintendo, and ganging up on Darryl because it's Darryl. I get that these things are fun, and pretty much the only thing people will do on a day with no information, but what's any of it really worth? Nobody has established much of anything yet. We can establish things in this Day, here and now - but voting for a lynch? It's totally senseless.
Honestly, I hate to keep bringing up metagame reasoning regarding other games, but I've watched 5 of these things run their course from behind the scenes, and the current meta on GAF is that Day 1 is largely a meaningless circus. The large majority of assertions made about other players at the start are dead wrong, no matter how good they think they are at hunting for it.
My proposal is, if you absolutely need to lynch someone today to feel like Town did something, then have a regular non-PR volunteer themselves to die. The motivations for why people will or will not vote on that should give you at least something more to go on than just picking on a random person.
Sure.
I said it earlier, I was waiting for a player to do something crazy and unnecessary, but I honestly didn't expect it to happen. Yet, you set yourself up perfectly. I'm 80-90% certain you're scum.
Then you're dead wrong, and the sad part is that when I flip Town, you wont have to answer for it tomorrow because you'll just feign general Town ignorance, or blame me for bad play.
In other words, a lynch on Day 1 doesn't matter.
If you're town and you know you're town, you know that sacrificing yourself is meaningless. It's even more meaningless if you have a role that won't offer up any additional information. An ordinary kid would just keep to himself, discuss things as if he weren't really a part of this whole thing, and try not to draw too much attention to himself because he doesn't want to die.
How is sacrificing yourself any less meaningful than sacrificing a random person for a lynch?
You've jumped out in front of the car. You're either a very foolish ordinary townie, because frankly these kinds of plays are completely unnecessary for a townie and as someone who has been in the community as long as you it's a given you know this already, or an overblown play by a no-fun-allowed.
Let's cut through doldrums of ordinary Day 1 play. Chances are very high that if Town lynches someone today, they're going to be Town - and a high chance that they will be a valuable PR.
I don't want to hear this wishy washy BS, "well, they could have been bad, we don't know". Why wait for the groupthink to settle on crucifying someone for silly, irrelevant reasons?
If we're going to do something stupid right now, let's own up to it and get the vote going on someone who is claiming Town, with no pressure put on them at all to do so.
I want to see who will still openly vote for this decision.
Truth be told, I would be completely ok with lynching you even if you really are ordinary, because we wouldn't lose anything of worth, yet the chances are high that you're trying to put yourself out there so we think you're being noble or trying to gain some cred. And, as you said, we wouldn't gain much information even if we did lynch a PR, so you're as good a vote as any.
This cynical outlook about Fun/Town members dying is giving me a severe lack of #funtells.
I'm just going to openly ask you, Launch.
Are you "No Fun"? Are you Mafia? Are you Scum?
