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I bought three packs of English NPH and two packs of Japanese once. Opened the three english packs, all jank. Opened the first japanese pack. Jank. Opened the second japanese pack. Japanese Karn

I was so happy
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
oooooo Where did you get Russian? That sounds pretty cool. How expensive are those?
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My local gaming shop can get them now and then.
Dark Ascension was a bit harder to get foreign but my japanese box was not terrible.
I was happy to at least get a russian Liliana out of my Innistrad.
 
May I ask what is the appeal of foreign language cards?

This is one thing about collecting habits I never really understood, just curious.
 
A fun way to increase your vocabulary in a language you understand to a reasonable degree. At least for me. Haven't started in on 'em again since I picked the game back up, and I have no plans to.
 
See, I can actually understand that.

I would love to say: "I tap Platinum Myr for two, then play Ubermyr"
 
Haly said:
May I ask what is the appeal of foreign language cards?

This is one thing about collecting habits I never really understood, just curious.
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I only want German because it's a language I can read/speak so it's interesting to see them. My spanish is ok, so I wouldn't mind those as much even though my spanish is much worse. I have no interest in Japanese, chinese, etc. because I can't understand any of it.
 
Oh god Terminus.

White-focused set indeed.

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Also this, which is pretty meh if you ask me.

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Oh, and it fucks Zombies even harder.

I am fairly new at returning, but is it pretty common since the Ice Age days for the flavor of the set to override any sense of balance in the colors?
 
WanderingWind said:
Oh, and it fucks Zombies even harder.

I am fairly new at returning, but is it pretty common since the Ice Age days for the flavor of the set to override any sense of balance in the colors?
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The colors aren't exactly balanced against each other in "narrow" ways like making sure that they don't totally hose each others' main tribes. It's more holistic than that, really, since each color definitely has more than one shtick.
 
On reflection its not as broken as I thought at first blush. If you miracle it in the early game its a good removal spell (as long as you don't mind losing whatever you've built up so far), and in the late game miracling it just means that you're probably going to get some of your board presence back that turn since you have the mana to drop some stuff. And if you just play it at cost six mana seems decent, even on the high-side.
 
Haly said:
May I ask what is the appeal of foreign language cards?

This is one thing about collecting habits I never really understood, just curious.
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I figure if you are going to see the same cards over and over, I want some variety.
Also it helps with language learning (not nearly enough lol).
It does not hurt that Japanese cards usually have a higher value down the line than english, Russian and german also are good for this.
Spanish , chinese and italian are usually cheaper than english versions
 
How does Terminus work exactly? Does it put ALL creature cards on the field, in your hand and your deck to the bottom of your deck?

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Wouldn't the FIRST time it's brought from the grave, have it under your control? Then anytime it is summoned from the grave, afterwards, it's under an opponent's control?
...and speaking of which, wouldn't using the Smuggler (blue) creature card allow you to take control of it?
 
Tizoc said:
How does Terminus work exactly? Does it put ALL creature cards on the field, in your hand and your deck to the bottom of your deck?

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Wouldn't the FIRST time it's brought from the grave, have it under your control? Then anytime it is summoned from the grave, afterwards, it's under an opponent's control?
...and speaking of which, wouldn't using the Smuggler (blue) creature card allow you to take control of it?
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Terminus only affects creatures on the battlefield since technically, the creatures in your hand and deck are not creatures yet, they are just spells.

And no, when treacherous is killed the first time, it hits the graveyard, then the undying mechanic triggers, bringing it back from the graveyard at which point the opponent gains control of it.
 
siddx said:
Terminus only affects creatures on the battlefield since technically, the creatures in your hand and deck are not creatures yet, they are just spells.

And no, when treacherous is killed the first time, it hits the graveyard, then the undying mechanic triggers, bringing it back from the graveyard at which point the opponent gains control of it.
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TREACHEROUS PIT-DWELLER! D=<
Wonder what combinations can be used to make that card much more effective, what Black cards affect cards that return from the grave or grant you control of opponent's creatures? IIRC there's a Black card that lets you control an opponent's card and turns it into a Vampire with lifelink.
 
Your best bet would be to vapor snag it back to your hand, although that's a waste of a vapor snag, or use one of the many blink abilities in this set to save it from death. Really the best you can hope for is to drop it turn two, get one or two swings in, and then let it sit back and play defense. I could potentially see it in a mono black suicide aggro deck.
 
Hey guys, I wanna build a budget UW Delver Spirits deck, and I need one more 4-of spell to round it off...

Code: 
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Doomed Traveler
4 Drogskol Captain
2 Fiend Hunter

4 Lingering Souls
4 Mana Leak
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Ponder
4 Thought Scour
3 Vapor Snag

[20 lands]

9 Island
8 Plains
2 Swamp
1 Moorland Haunt

I'm thinking of either:

4 Honor of the Pure
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Midnight Haunting

Thoughts?
 
Terminus isn't that bad. Timing is everything with sweepers; you'll either draw the miracle when you don't need it, or you'll have to waste a turn to set it up if you're playing esper-control when Day of Judgement would have been just fine.
 
Tizoc said:
TREACHEROUS PIT-DWELLER! D=<
Wonder what combinations can be used to make that card much more effective, what Black cards affect cards that return from the grave or grant you control of opponent's creatures? IIRC there's a Black card that lets you control an opponent's card and turns it into a Vampire with lifelink.
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Uh... T1 grafdiggers cage. T2 treacherous demon. T3 pray.
 
Tizoc said:
TREACHEROUS PIT-DWELLER! D=<
Wonder what combinations can be used to make that card much more effective, what Black cards affect cards that return from the grave or grant you control of opponent's creatures? IIRC there's a Black card that lets you control an opponent's card and turns it into a Vampire with lifelink.
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Olivia voldaren?
 
An-Det said:
Wow, Terminus is crazy.
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Agreed. Great way to deal with undying aggro and tokens.

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The problem is the current creatures that would transform don't trigger the ability since it's already in the battlefield. The combo would be way too slow otherwise.

narcosis219 said:
Hey guys, I wanna build a budget UW Delver Spirits deck, and I need one more 4-of spell to round it off...

Code: 
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Doomed Traveler
4 Drogskol Captain
2 Fiend Hunter

4 Lingering Souls
4 Mana Leak
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Ponder
4 Thought Scour
3 Vapor Snag

[20 lands]

9 Island
8 Plains
2 Swamp
1 Moorland Haunt

I'm thinking of either:

4 Honor of the Pure
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Midnight Haunting

Thoughts?
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The main purpose of Thought Scour is to mill Lingering Souls to cast cheaper which you have 4 of, and to power up Runechanter's Pike by milling more Instant/Sorcery. Add 3 or so Runechanter's Pike in there, which is only like $1.50 I think. Glacial Fortress is relatively cheap, esp compared to Seachrome Coast *cries. If you don't wanna shell out, at least put 2 Evolving Wilds for mana fixing.
 
y2dvd said:
The problem is the current creatures that would transform don't trigger the ability since it's already in the battlefield. The combo would be way too slow otherwise.
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Actually it would. When they transform, you could say that a number of Inquisitor copies enters the battlefield ; the previous creatures were already there does not matter.

Or so I was told long ago by my local judge. Man if I played with a wrong set of rules for the last 3 years Imma be pissed.
 
Guesong said:
Actually it would. When they transform, you could say that a number of Inquisitor copies enters the battlefield ; the previous creatures were already there does not matter.

Or so I was told long ago by my local judge. Man if I played with a wrong set of rules for the last 3 years Imma be pissed.
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That is definitely not how that works. The creatures are already on the battlefield. Them becoming something else is just an effect that happens, there is no new entering or leaving taking place.
 
TheYanger said:
That is definitely not how that works. The creatures are already on the battlefield. Them becoming something else is just an effect that happens, there is no new entering or leaving taking place.
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You might be right. I was thinking of a slightly different scenario with Vedelken Shapeshifter, where I was actually playing it right since turning it face down and face up again makes it a new object everytime.

Still, browsing thru the rules to have a definite answer.
 
Guesong said:
You might be right. I was thinking of a slightly different scenario with Vedelken Shapeshifter, where I was actually playing it right since turning it face down and face up again makes it a new object everytime.
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I assume you mean Vesuvan Shapeshifter? Turning it face up or down should just change what it is, and still not trigger EtB effects.
 
Yea I don't think it would trigger an "enters the battlefield" effect.

An easy and mega effective way to use that spell is for a spirit deck to cast it on a captain. Now every creature you have is giving every other creature +1/+1 and is flying/hexproof. If you had 1 full lingering souls out and a captain that's 5 flying hexproof 6/6's.
 
divisionbyzorro said:
I assume you mean Vesuvan Shapeshifter? Turning it face up or down should just change what it is, and still not trigger EtB effects.
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Yes, Vesuvan.

Surely you jest, goo-

707.8. As a face-down permanent is turned face up, its copiable values revert to its normal copiable
values. Any effects that have been applied to the face-down permanent still apply to the face-up
permanent. Any abilities relating to the permanent entering the battlefield don’t trigger and don’t
have any effect, because the permanent has already entered the battlefield.
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WHAT THE HELL.

MY JUDGE HAS LIED TO ME.
 
Sinatar said:
Yea I don't think it would trigger an "enters the battlefield" effect.

An easy and mega effective way to use that spell is for a spirit deck to cast it on a captain. Now every creature you have is giving every other creature +1/+1 and is flying/hexproof. If you had 1 full lingering souls out and a captain that's 5 flying hexproof 6/6's.
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Non-token creatures only, so no synergy with Lingering Souls. Probably for the best.

That's why this only costs 6 as opposed to, say, Rite of Replication.
 
Guesong said:
Yes, Vesuvan.

Surely you jest, goo-



WHAT THE HELL.

MY JUDGE HAS LIED TO ME.
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Haha, shitty judge who was at my local shop finally stopped coming. So much nicer, he constantly got basic shit wrong.

Does anyone think snapcaster will go up in value with the release of avacyn? I think that's the only rare besides planeswalkers I need anymore.
 
My first thought with Infinite Reflection would be that you could run some sort of GU aggro deck and use it to turn all your mana-dorks into legitimate threats in a hurry. You would be de-ramping yourself to do so, which might not be what you really want, but maybe it could work. You could even just splash blue for it; no need to go full-on GU. Maybe RUG aggro.
 
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