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Picked up a scroll rack for EDH, should be fun with Miracles.
Also grabbed a Food Chain to try with the new Griffen that can be played from Exile.
 
Is MTG Salvation the biggest independent Magic forum? I'm looking at a thread about the no counters land and there are so many idiots with a vendetta against blue thinking not being able to resolve a spell is the worst thing ever. The discussion all over the site is really disappointing.

With time, you'll learn to filter out the hate...
Yes, I'm a blue aligned player
 
Certain cards hate others, but only counters hate everything.

The only hate to counters is counters...

.. and now this land.

RISE MY TIMMY BRETHREN, AND UNLEASH THE MIGHT OF YOUR HORDES.
 
Certain cards hate others, but only counters hate everything.

The only hate to counters is counters...

.. and now this land.

RISE MY TIMMY BRETHREN, AND UNLEASH THE MIGHT OF YOUR HORDES.

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This could be fun

Kessig Malcontents 2R
Creature - Human Warrior (U)
When Kessig Malcontents enters the battlefield, it deals damage to target player equal to the number of Humans you control.
3/1
#142

And

Riders of Gavony 2WW
Creature - Human Knight (R)
Vigilance
As Riders of Gavony enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
Human creatures you control have protection from creatures of the chosen type.
3/3
#???
 
Ah I see why Thatcher Rebellion is so shitty.

Ravnica will have Boros, and they don't want RW humans getting out of hand.
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?
 
Be cheap and do U/B control with Demons as win cons.
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?

Angel deck? Rival deck? Playset of Dark Ritual & Gloom. Aggresive mulling, and I'm pretty sure he will have a very hard time even casting anything. Very extreme though. LOL
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?

I would do red black with heartless summoning I would think.
 
Could someone explain how this card works?
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=190578
Basically if it was destroyed and it regenerates. If an opponent casts a spell that could destroy it, does it still stay on the battlefield or is it exiled?

EDIT: Oh and what about cards that add mana to your pool? For example, a card can add 3 mana to your pool; can you decide what color/type they are, or are they 'colorless'?

The wall stays in play as long as you are able to pay the mana to regenerate it (as well with any other creature with regenerate).
If something exiles it or removes it from the game, regenerating it will not save it.

As far as the mana being added, it depends on the card because there are cards that do both.
Black lotus added 3 of any single color. Others will say only colorless. With these the card will always dictate.
 
Anybody got a set of Hero of Bladehold's up for trade?
I have a set, not really lookin for too much right now though.

The same people who can't stand Morrigan in UMvC3 are the same people who can't stand playing against Control.

(That having been said, Snapcaster/Geist/(Delver+Ponder) are absolutely ridiculous.)
 
Could someone explain how this card works?
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=190578
Basically if it was destroyed and it regenerates. If an opponent casts a spell that could destroy it, does it still stay on the battlefield or is it exiled?

Regeneration is a replacement effect, essentially a shield. If the creature would be destroyed by any means, the shield is broken and the creature is tapped but survives, remaining in play. Regeneration does not protect against 0 toughness (say, if that wall were given -4/-4, it would die), nor against exile (so something like Path to Exile will still rfg it).

EDIT: Oh and what about cards that add mana to your pool? For example, a card can add 3 mana to your pool; can you decide what color/type they are, or are they 'colorless'?

The card will explicitly show what kind of mana it generates. So, something like Thran Dynamo only makes colorless, whereas Llanowar Elves only makes green mana. If you are given a choice (say with Horizon Canopy), you must choose between the options (so that will make a G or a W, but never a colorless).
 
Thanks for the info. The regeneraton description of Wall of Bones confused me, but seems it's a normal regeneration rule.
 
Yup, and so many decks try to be control because of it.

The best control deck right now is more tap out than using counters. Tempo decks use mana leak but they only run them because otherwise titans fuck them up. The break out delver spirits deck at the PT only had 2 which is why they didn't win as there wolf run match up wasn't great

It just makes a creature uncounterable jesus christ, just kill it.

The problem is if they drop prime time (or any titan) the damage is already done.
For fairer creatures you are right, which makes the blue hate even weirder as there is no difference in countering the hero of blade hold (which you have to answer or you're probably dead) to doom blade. In fact you don't even need to leave mana up for doom blade you can do it after. I don't see what's more frustrating about having something countered to having it destroyed.
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?

My opinion, since you mentioned Heartless Summoning?

Make a Rune-Scarred Demon - Heartless Summoning - Phyrexian Metamorph deck. You just chain one into another and end up pulling demons out of your ass. It's ridiculously fun.
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?

As a casual deck B/W with tokens and the sacrificing Demons could be fun. There are a few new powerful black Demons that are below the curve with some conditions that shouldn't be hard to fill with Gather the Townsfolk and Lingering Souls.
 
The problem is if they drop prime time (or any titan) the damage is already done.
For fairer creatures you are right, which makes the blue hate even weirder as there is no difference in countering the hero of blade hold (which you have to answer or you're probably dead) to doom blade. In fact you don't even need to leave mana up for doom blade you can do it after. I don't see what's more frustrating about having something countered to having it destroyed.

Well, Titans are a mistake that shouldn't have been printed. I was only half joking when I said of the "Exile target Giant spell with converted mana cost 6" for phyrexian U.
 
Be cheap and do U/B control with Demons as win cons.

Oh, Haly. Your hatred of Vapor Snag is exuding from this post.

Though I do admit it'd be a bloody great (and simple) idea.

Angel deck? Rival deck? Playset of Dark Ritual & Gloom. Aggresive mulling, and I'm pretty sure he will have a very hard time even casting anything. Very extreme though. LOL

LOL. I wish I could do that. My friend is a rager though. He rages when someone cast a Destroy Land on his Fertile-Grounded Superland because "no one in our group has something against that"...can't imagine how much he'd rage if I play Gloom, which'd be a pretty apparant way to hose him and him specifically. :P

I do like the idea behind, though. Demon, taxing, fits in the lore. Is there similar black or blue or red spells to taxes opponent that I could use and be less apparant about Angeldeckhating?

My opinion, since you mentioned Heartless Summoning?

Make a Rune-Scarred Demon - Heartless Summoning - Phyrexian Metamorph deck. You just chain one into another and end up pulling demons out of your ass. It's ridiculously fun.

Unless I'm not seeing something here, to pull them out like that, I'd need the RS Demon out first, fetching a demon, then Metamorph it to redeem another demon...or another RS? I dunno. How is having the Metamorph there any different than going to fetch another RS Demon?

EDIT : Read up a tiny bit on it. Interesting. Phyrexian Metamorph is a wee bit expansive compared to Clone though! O_o Must have many use in the current meta.

As a casual deck B/W with tokens and the sacrificing Demons could be fun. There are a few new powerful black Demons that are below the curve with some conditions that shouldn't be hard to fill with Gather the Townsfolk and Lingering Souls.

I'm only seeing Ravenous Demon as the one who specifically needs human to sacrifice. Demon of Death's Gate can make use of black creatures to come out faster. And then the usual Lord of the Pit-like-creatures that bones you unless you sacrifice someone at upkeep start.

Which leads me to Eon Hub instead, and that is brilliant as well!
 
I have a set, not really lookin for too much right now though.

The same people who can't stand Morrigan in UMvC3 are the same people who can't stand playing against Control.

(That having been said, Snapcaster/Geist/(Delver+Ponder) are absolutely ridiculous.)

You know you need some Snapcasters up in your life. Also, fuck this card.


Riders of Gavony 2WW
Creature - Human Knight (R)
Vigilance
As Riders of Gavony enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
Human creatures you control have protection from creatures of the chosen type.
3/3
 
Many people from the UK in here?

Found out there is a Magic store not too far from me over in Liverpool (Scythe and Teacup gamer cafe). Relatively new place, but it looks pretty good. Would love to go next weekend for the Avacyn pre release and learn to play properly, but I just can't with real life stuff. Looking to go the 2013 core set events though!
 
You know you need some Snapcasters up in your life. Also, fuck this card.


Riders of Gavony 2WW
Creature - Human Knight (R)
Vigilance
As Riders of Gavony enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
Human creatures you control have protection from creatures of the chosen type.
3/3
"Interactive", right?
 
Many people from the UK in here?

Found out there is a Magic store not too far from me over in Liverpool (Scythe and Teacup gamer cafe). Relatively new place, but it looks pretty good. Would love to go next weekend for the Avacyn pre release and learn to play properly, but I just can't with real life stuff. Looking to go the 2013 core set events though!

I'm in Leeds, there is quite a big group around a comic shop here. They are doing 4 pre releases (one midnight friday, during the day on saturday sunday and THG on sunday afternoon). There was a GP in Manchester this weekend as well but I couldn't be bothered to get the train.
 
Casual deck help time :

3 years ago, one of my buddies decided to slowly start building an Angel deck. I always said that it was a false archetype since the only way he got them out was by cheating them into play.

With AVR coming, it's Angel galore and lo and behold, some support for an Angel deck also appears.

I always mused about creating a Demon deck just for the whole thematic rivalry, and this seems to be a most appropriate time to do so.

How would you guys go about creating such a deck, keeping in mind I want to stay as far away as possible from cards like Quicksilver Amulet or Call to the Kindred? But cards like Heartless Summoning are A-OK in my book.

R/B? Pure Black? Grixis?

I posted this from my phone but I guess it didn't take.

I'm guessing you aren't sticking to a specific block? This deck would be quite expensive but I figure I'd throw out an expensive option out there.
Dark ritual
Cabal Ritual
Heartless Summoning
Bloodgift Demon
Tombstalker
Hymn to Tourach
Sinkhole
Thoughtseize
Dark confidant
Doom blade
Halo Hunter (just to fuck over your friend's angel deck)
Ob Nixilis (if you need more demons)

Maybes:
Lilliana
Rune-Scared Demon (to search out a specific card)
Damnation
Stronghold Overseer (pretty much unblockable and pumpable)


Ideally you would turn 1 : dark ritual, sinkhole, thoughtseize (or even better add a cabal ritual to hymn instead of thoughtseize). Opponent is now behind a land and two cards. Turn two heartless summoning, turn 3 remove your graveyard for a tombstalker or put out an ob nixilis/halo hunter/bloodgift demon. You have the power on the board and your opponent is playing from behind.
Now just go find an absurd amount of money and you can have this deck.



Also while I was in Seattle I found a store that had boosters from every single set from Unlimited up (with only a few gaps here and there). Went nuts and bought urza block, mirage block, ravnica block, and tempest block stuff. Got absolutely nothing except a rancor out of it lol. Oh well, boosters are always a gamble.


oh and I thought this was a nice little beater
Hound of Griselbrand 2rr
Creature - Elemental Hound Rare
Double strike
Undying
#141/244 2/2
 
Dark Ascension Booster box about to go for £71 with postage on Ebay. If it wasn't for the impending release of Avacyn, I'd be grabbing that!

Just put some 2012 intro packs up on Ebay actually, if anyone wants my Ebay ID, just PM.

Edit: £71 is about $115. And I've read in the past of booster boxes in the States going for $100, which is just over £60! Booster boxes are normally £85!
 
Alright, so the last time I've played Magic, I was in high school, and pretty much just dabbled in it. A friend of mine at the time just gave me a bunch of cards to play with, and I just held onto them and never played that much. So I would like to sell them. The following is the list of cards that I have. I don't know what pack they are from (I haven't kept up with the game at all, and only started playing Magic 2012). I figure I would post if here in case any of you guys would like em.

Please keep in mind that I would like to try and sell everything at once if possible, and not just ship out a single card or so. Also keep in mind that these cards have been sitting in a box for over 15 years and have never been touched since then, which means they are in very good condition. That should give you an idea of what pack they are from I guess. I can take a picture of some of the higher priced ones if you wish.

I also have no idea how I would ship them considering I would like the cards to get to someone in the same condition they are in now.

Please let me know what you would pay for it since I have no idea what each one costs. If you say a reasonable price and I trust you won't rip me off, then it is fine. I just want to get rid of them, and hopefully have enough for Diablo 3 :)

Code:
1x Armageddon
3x Giant Growth
1x Marhault Elsdragon
1x Orcish healer
1x Rootbreaker Wurm
2x Drudge Skeletons
1x Armorer Guildmage
1x Flowstone Giant
1x Dark Ritual
1x Nightmare
1x Demonic hordes
1x Killer Bees
1x Ornithopter
1x Wall of Lava
1x Vaevictis Asmadi
1x Durkwood Boars
1x Llanowar Behemoth
1x Woolly Spider
1x Fireball
1x Wall of Brambles
1x Koskun Keep
1x Orcish Artillery
1x Mountain Titan
1x Centaur Archer
1x Wall of Stone
1x Shatter
1x Ironroot Treefolk
1x Monsoon
2x Fog
1x Lim-Dul's Paladin
1x Wild Wurm
1x Thicket Basilisk 
1x Walking Wall
1x Lightning Blast
1x Cursed Rack
1x The Rack
1x Yavimaya Ancients
1x Natural Spring
1x Incinerate
1x Clay Statue
1x Axelrod Gunnarson
1x Earthlink
1x Balduvian Barbarians
1x Crash of Rhinos
2x Stream of Life
1x Disintegrate
1x Aladdin's Ring
1x Keeper of Tresserhorn
1x Sivitri Scarzam
1x Flooded Woodlands
1x Ebon Stronghold
1x Radjan Spirit
1x Inferno
1x Living Lands
1x Wall of heat
1x Feast of the Unicorn
1x Wall fo Shadows
1x Benthic Djinn
1x Tourach's Chant
1x Lifeforce
1x Magmasaur
1x Mwonvuli Ooze
1x Paralyze
1x Gloom
1x Murk Dwellers
1x Craw Giant
2x Earthlore
1x Shanodin Dryads
2x Venom
1x Brown Ouphe
1x Freyalise Supplicant
1x Pradesh Gypsies
1x Prynite
1x Fyndhorn Brownie 
1x Foxfire
1x Raise Dead
1x Carapace
1x Runesword
1x Circle of Protection: Blue
2x Heal
1x Adarkar Unicorn
1x Prismatic Circle
3x Arenson's Aura
2x Blessed Wine
1x Ritual of Steel
1x Repentant Blacksmith
1x Circle of Protection: Black
1x Benevolent Unicorn
1x War Elephant
2x Circle of Protection: Red
1x Civic Guildmage
1x Benalish hero
1x Circle of Protection: Blue
1x Circle of Protection: White
1x Craw Wurm
1x Scryb Sprites 
1x Kyscu Drake
1x Folk of the Pines
1x Rabis Wombat
1x Imposing Visage
1x Scaled Wurm
1x Shrink
1x Essence Filter
1x Wild Growth
1x Word of Blasting
1x Grizzly Bears
1x Fungus Elemental
1x Azure Drake
1x Floodwater Dam
1x Mind Warp
1x Vitalizing Cascade
1x The Wretched 
1x Circle of Despair
1x Kaervek's Purge
2x Power Sink
1x Dark Maze
1x Illusionary Forces
1x Disenchant
1x Unsummon
1x Serra's Blessing
1x Energy Vortext
1x Tobias Andrion
1x D'Avenant Archer
1x Castle
1x Wall of Vapor
1x Foutain of Youth
1x Kismet
1x Keepers of the Faith
1x Kjeldoran Skycaptain
1x Spell Blast
1x Cerulean Wyvern
1x Angry Mob
1x Reef Pirates
1x Soul Barrier
1x Tempest Drake
1x Avizoa
1x Order of the Sacret Torch
1x Black Knight
1x Cloud Djinn
1x Grapeshot Catapult
1x Psychic Venom
1x Feral Thallid
1x Empyrial Armor
1x Frozen Shade
1x Fumarole
1x Tranquility
1x Water Elemental
1x Spirit Link
1x Phantom Monster
1x Zombie Master
1x Sea Serpent
1x Tarpan
1x Thoughtleech
1x Elvish Hunter
1x Goblin Kites
1x Primordial Ooze
1x Aurochs
1x Spore Cloud
1x Eternal Warrior
1x Pyknite
1x Ashnod's Transmogrant
1x Battering Ram
1x Mons's Goblin Raiders
1x Dire Wolves
1x Firebreathing
1x Thron Thallid
1x Barbarian Guides
1x Argothian Pixies
1x Maddening Wind
1x Sandstorm
1x Grizzled Wolverine
1x Immolation
1x Goblin War Drums 
1x hurloon Minotaur
1x Goblin Shrine
1x Errantry
1x Mountain Goat
1x Active Volcano
1x Orcish Conscripts
1x Goblin Chirurgeon
1x Brothers of Fire
1x Sabretooth Tiger
1x howl from Beyond
1x Mind Stone
1x Pestilence
1x Mind Ravel
1x Lim-Dul's Cohort
1x Pit Scorpion
1x Scathe Zombies
1x Drain Life
1x Scathe Zombies
1x Mindstab Thrull
1x Gangrenous Zombies
1x Word of Binding
1x Moor Fiend
3x Merfolk of the Pearl Trident
1x Dandan
2x Gaze of Pain
1x Brine Shaman
1x Infuse
1x Urborg Mindsucker
1x Fear
1x Force Void
1x Marsh Gas
1x Word of Undoing
1x Erg Raiders
1x Arnjlot's Ascent
1x Creature Bond
1x Mistfolk
1x Basal Thrull
1x Krovikan Fetish
1x Soul Kiss
1x Songs of the Damned
1x Murk Dwellers
1x Mindstab Thrull
1x Vodalian Soldiers
1x homarid Warrior
1x Krovikan Sorcerer
1x Shaper Guildmage
1x Cloak of Confusion
1x Balduvian Shaman
1x Portent
1x Blue Elemental Blast
2x Urza's Bauble
1x Casting of Bones
1x Vitalize
1x Surge of Strength
11x Island
6x Snow-Covered Mountain
10x Mountain
4x Snow-Covered Swamp
12x Swamp
4x Snow-Covered Forest
15x Forest
3x Snow-Covered Plains
18x Plains
 
Dark Ascension Booster box about to go for £71 with postage on Ebay. If it wasn't for the impending release of Avacyn, I'd be grabbing that!

Just put some 2012 intro packs up on Ebay actually, if anyone wants my Ebay ID, just PM.

Edit: £71 is about $115. And I've read in the past of booster boxes in the States going for $100, which is just over £60! Booster boxes are normally £85!

Ya, you can usually find them on amazon and stuff with free shipping for $100, usually more in stores for the most part.
 
Okay, let's make a deal. Let me crash at your pad for a week when i vacation in the UK and I'll just bring a mess load of boosters.

Fine, but I snore like something awful! :p

For some reason I'm trying the different US sellers on Amazon for booster boxes, found one for £73. I think the postage of £5 might be a little off!

Edit: make that £71. £3 shipping to the UK can't be right surely??
 
So after a string of terrible, terrible luck with picks in DKA/INN/INN drafts (literally no good mythics 20+ drafts in a row), this happens:

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huntmaster -> vorapede -> immerwolf -> strangleroot. Never seen that before.
 
Nice! Whenever I start like that, I get cut off from green completely or something at that point, haha. Every time!

Ended up with absolutely no removal (except for a blasphemous act and an into the maw) , splashed white, and got my vorapede stolen from me twice for a round one loss, breaking my winstreak.... So yeah, that happened to me too. :P Really good games though!
 
Ended up with absolutely no removal (except for a blasphemous act and an into the maw) , splashed white, and got my vorapede stolen from me twice for a round one loss, breaking my winstreak.... So yeah, that happened to me too. :P Really good games though!

What did they use to steal it twice?
 
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