piratepwnsninja
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That's something, I guess.
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
Wow. That guy was pretty bold.
echoshifting
Banned
That cheating video is depressing. I should have watched it before I read what the cheat was, it's shocking the commentators missed it but difficult to judge just how bad a slip it was when you know what's going to happen.
I wouldn't be surprised if I've been cheated a time or two by a stranger at a tourney...some people have incredibly shady habits when it comes to shuffling, draw and/or placement. No point in worrying about it, though.
Now, if I caught a friend cheating at my own table, that'd be something else, but I can't imagine that ever happening. That would be awful.
I wouldn't be surprised if I've been cheated a time or two by a stranger at a tourney...some people have incredibly shady habits when it comes to shuffling, draw and/or placement. No point in worrying about it, though.
Now, if I caught a friend cheating at my own table, that'd be something else, but I can't imagine that ever happening. That would be awful.
narcosis219
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That I don't doubt, but my line of thinking is that if they're going to have duals for every color pair (allied and enemy) then maybe, since they've got each color pair covered, that they would release some new stuff.
But thinking about it, it makes sense since we have the Innistrad enemy lands. M10 + innistrad enemy lands + rav shocks will make it possible for each color pair to have a good set of duals to run off of. It will level the playing field a bit in terms of enemy colors being able to run more consistent mana bases.
EDIT: Wow at that cheating video. Just straight up takes the batterskull and plays it too. Wowww LOL. What an idiot
piratepwnsninja
Member
How far in was it when he got DQ'ed?
divisionbyzorro
Member
He was already in the top 8 before he got DQ'd.
echoshifting
Banned
Some really interesting insight into Elden's cheat in this post, particularly in the comments section. Pro Tour champion Simon Goertzen, participant Michael Friedman and SC judge Danny West have all weighed in with lengthy observations I found revealing.
I don't understand how nobody noticed he left a card on the table when he picked up his deck to shuffle. There is a big white rectangle sitting on the table still where his deck used to be, how does the table judge, spectators, commentators, and opponent not notice that? I can understand the opponent missing it (although I tend to watch my opponent like a hawk at big tournaments) but with so many others standing around, nobody seeing he left the bottom card on the table is strange.
Because everyone's attention was elsewhere. One of the commentators caught it as well. People are distractable.
Keru_Shiri
Member
That's what worries me. It seems like it should be so easy to spot, and yet...
Oh wow. There's so many things that scream "he's cheating" in that but would be hard to see in the heat of the moment. I'm glad someone caught that.
echoshifting
Banned
This is why I wish I'd watched before reading the description of the cheat. Sleight of hand looks like the simplest thing in the world when you know what's going to happen.
It wasn't the slight of hand though that stood out to me. When an opponent picks up their deck, a space that is normally occupied by a stack of cards becomes empty. So when a card remains behind, it seems obvious.
However I play regularly with a friend who cheats like a little bitch all the time so I guess I am programed to watch for certain things (especially extra cards in hand, since thats one of his favorite cheats).
Keru_Shiri
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I'll have to rewatch the video, but wasn't a fetchland and a Vendillion Clique going off at the same time? I'm guessing that's what distracted most people.
Why do you continue to play with him if he cheats?
He popped a Clique off on his opponent's Clique, then popped off his fetch. The clique that got him was a turn before, IIRC
narcosis219
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I can understand cheating if there is money on the line because, you know, there's money to be won, but cheating in casuals/with friends makes no sense. It's so stupid.
divisionbyzorro
Member
So on a totally different topic: does anyone know when the full M13 spoiler will be out?
Next Monday, officially.
Because despite cheating in casual play, when it comes time to play serious, he is the only other player in my group as good as I am at the game. I think he cheats because he is bored honestly. We don't have much quality in our little play group.
zerokoolpsx
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Wow, can't believe he cheated and it was caught on tape. He had a Stoneforge in his hand too. He could have just search for it with that. Glad he got DQ'd.
I'm thinking of putting him in my legacy goblin deck for shit and giggles.
Or Goblin Warchief! If Goblin Grenade and Chieftain aren't in M13 or RTR. Krenko is dead in the water. Seriously. I wish he had haste on him.
I'm thinking of putting him in my legacy goblin deck for shit and giggles.
Yeah the double draw is one that I have dealt with many times, and called many out on it when caught.
It sucks when you have to look out for it.
Notoriously not exiling flashed back spells is another one that I see alot of people try in a hectic game.
Yeah, with Chieftain he is incredible, and with Grenade he just poops out 5 damage outlets. It's great.
Hoping Goblins get support. With a cool new Legend and a new token generating spell, it would be lame to get rid of all the other cards that make the tribe good.
Speaking of goblins I just found my old type 2 goblin deck in my car's glovebox, I was wondering where all my chieftains and automatons went. Pretty nasty deck for being so cheap and quickly thrown together. Goblin grenade followed by a brimstone volley is a mean way to end a game turn 4.
Hey all I just got back into magic, used to play back heavily in Ravnica and Mirrodin days (sort of played in Kamigawa), got into the game way back in high school during Mercadian Masques. Stepped back in because of heavily watching what was going on with the new Mirrodin block and then into Innistrad. Have some of both sets, and I love playing Constructed (type 2). Looking forward to M13 and Return to Ravnica, as I'm treating it as a return to magic!
Welcome back, man!
Yeah, I started playing back in original Mirrodin block. Stopped shortly after, and then picked it back up during Zendikar block.
The game's only gotten better with age, I think. Lots of great fun still ahead to be sure.
Welcome back, pace yourself. I've had to step back several times over the years because I jumped back in manically and spent an absurd amount of money.
I started around the end of Ice Age, quit at Urza's block, came back during Kamigawa, quit at the end of Ravnica block, came back during zendikar, and will probably be quitting soon after I move to Vietnam.
Yeah I totally agree, looking at the past sets they've really stepped it up on the design department. Oh yeah, Zendikar was awesome. I'm a total lore nerd about the game though, and I was dreading Karn becoming something terribly evil (one of the only heroic links between old planeswalkers and new planeswalkers left), so I was heavily anticipating watching what was to become of him in New Phyrexia.
I think I am going to take it slow, but I definitely want to build my collection again (even play in FNMs and tournaments, I think) - it's a hobby I've always loved but wanted to spend more time with. My next paycheck I'm going to drop on a box of Avacyn. When's M13 come out again?
July 13 (friday 13...unlucky pulls for everyone...lol), I believe. Prerelease is first weekend of that month.
Good, I'll have the next week's paycheck to drop on like two boxes of it. I absolutely love the ritual of opening packs. It's intoxicating to say the least.
echoshifting
Banned
What on Earth are you talking about...this never happens
zerokoolpsx
Member
The dual lands are legal for another year. They need to reveal the whole set sooner.
The problem is that they expanded a 3-week preview season to 4 to accommodate Duels. It's definitely too long.
That's my birthday! I was born on a Friday the 13th as well.
...Too bad I'm doing the prerelease and not a release party.
My 13th birthday was on Friday the 13th.
So, worst magic cards?
Wood Elemental
Nearly unplayable creature that needs 8 lands out to be even remotely worth it's cost, and even then you are destroying half your mana base
Aladdin's Lamp
For 10 mana a card better be ending the game the turn it drops. This...does not do that. At best you get to spend yet more mana to try and find the card that will end the game.
Sorrow's Path
Besides being needlessly complicated and confusing, it penalizes you severely for almost no beneficial payoff.
Asyen Highway
This card would be bad if it just gave creatures plainswalk. But add in the fact it only gives white creatures plainswalk and it becomes awful. Then heap on top the fact it cost 6!! to play and you have a the kind of card you give as a gift to your most hated enemies.
Great Wall
Yet another card that lets us know that Wizards R&D were apparently smoking a ton of crack and raving on about plainswalking with each other. So useless it makes me head hurt.
Wood Elemental
Nearly unplayable creature that needs 8 lands out to be even remotely worth it's cost, and even then you are destroying half your mana base
Aladdin's Lamp
For 10 mana a card better be ending the game the turn it drops. This...does not do that. At best you get to spend yet more mana to try and find the card that will end the game.
Sorrow's Path
Besides being needlessly complicated and confusing, it penalizes you severely for almost no beneficial payoff.
Asyen Highway
This card would be bad if it just gave creatures plainswalk. But add in the fact it only gives white creatures plainswalk and it becomes awful. Then heap on top the fact it cost 6!! to play and you have a the kind of card you give as a gift to your most hated enemies.
Great Wall
Yet another card that lets us know that Wizards R&D were apparently smoking a ton of crack and raving on about plainswalking with each other. So useless it makes me head hurt.
echoshifting
Banned
I think the only time mudhole would be useful is to counter crucible of worlds and knight of reliquary.
And even then it's still useless.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its not nearly as bad as any of the ones Siddx posted, but this is the first card I remember seeing and going "wow...that is utterly horrible"
How did I know that most of the cards would be from early ass sets. They just didn't have any idea about how to design back then. It was a free for all.
Well Mudhole could seriously screw with Loam decks which of course didn't exist when that card was printed...
Owlowiscious
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I was born friday the 13th (April! The best one!). Whil putzing around I noticed there's 3 friday the 13ths this year, 13 weeks apart
jan 13th, then 13 weeks later april 13th, then 13 weeks later july 13th
jan 13th, then 13 weeks later april 13th, then 13 weeks later july 13th
This was a really entertaining article about all the pro tours from the very beginning to 04
Some of the entries are dry, but others have some great stories about mistakes or infamous incidents.
And here's part 2
Some of the entries are dry, but others have some great stories about mistakes or infamous incidents.
And here's part 2
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Meh, I'll be impressed during the year where we get 13 Friday the 13ths
So today's "for a goof" deck:
Shockingly I've been winning with it. A lot.
So I've come up with what I consider a funny name for this brew: Myr Myr on the Ball.
Ehhh. Ehhhhhh? Yea.
The Technomancer
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