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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?

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DrArchon

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Whenever they talk about red I get the impression that they have no idea what to do with the color.

Yep. I was excited when they started doing the land lockout thing, but now it barely pops up.

Maybe they should steal stuff from colors that have too much going on and give it to red?
 

Firemind

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And red doesn't even have decent burn anymore. Makes you wonder why it's even playable at all if it wasn't for Harnessed Lightning.
 

kirblar

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Yep. I was excited when they started doing the land lockout thing, but now it barely pops up.

Maybe they should steal stuff from colors that have too much going on and give it to red?
It just got a constructed quality split card tho?

It's not a mechanic you can push in large #s.
 

DrArchon

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It just got a constructed quality split card tho?

It's not a mechanic you can push in large #s.

I expected more than just 1 in a set, though I certainly understand why you can't print a lot of them in lower rarities so draft isn't a nightmare.

They've got to come up with "funner" mechanics for red so they aren't afraid to print a couple of them as commons. I have no idea what they would be, but I'd like to think the guys at WotC could do it.
 

Ashodin

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We almost had filter lands or the complete cycle of these

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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
We almost had filter lands or the complete cycle of these

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I feel like Thought Knot and Reality Smasher are way too good to see no play but the mana just suuuuuucks and has sucked since Origins rotated.
 
We almost had filter lands or the complete cycle of these

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Man I wish we had gotten these. They're so good.

In terms of future Sight land cycles, this is probably the best cycle that could be reprinted. Grove causes balancing issues at times, Horizon Canopy is alright but not with the developmental hassle, and River of Tears is a headache.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
When Kytheon exiles himself, can you choose to return him to the Command Zone?
Sure but it won't do anything. Kytheon's ability doesn't specify you have to return him from exile. He will still return to the battlefield transformed.
 

Santiako

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Dave Palumbo has released the high res version of Renegade Rallier on his auction for the piece. I'm definitely getting a playset of this version. The brushwork is really fun to look at.



And Guay also posted this on IG the other day. xD

That renegade rallier art is fantastic. Feels like a card from 1999.
 

Ashodin

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Thoughts? comments? I built this the other day and it seems sweet.

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End-game: Get Tormentor out and get counters on it while hexproof and indestructible. THEN NOTHING CAN STOP YOU

or put plainly

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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Man I wish we had gotten these. They're so good.

In terms of future Sight land cycles, this is probably the best cycle that could be reprinted. Grove causes balancing issues at times, Horizon Canopy is alright but not with the developmental hassle, and River of Tears is a headache.
He wouldn't have brought it up if it wasn't on their shortlist of ideas.
 
Can't have people getting confused over opposing Slivers interacting with each other in fun and unique ways.

It's like fine to be not into the new design strategy or whatever, but c'mon, there wasn't anything "fun and unique" about affects-everybody slivers.

Return to Dominaria I would hope they would have them, but the last time we got slivers was in an M-core set.

Dominaria, or Shandalar if we go there, or just some other plane because we know from the backstory that (like the Kor and other species) they were captured from somewhere else to be brought to Rath in the first place.

2-Block model is totally done. "Years worth of mechanics" means they're burning through mechanics too quickly, which is very hard not to do w/ the 2-block model.

You're nuts. All the problems with the three set model are still way worse than anything they have with this system. They're just gonna add in a periodic small core-set-like release to handle the reprints they need and start doing blocks with only like 2-3 mechanics.

Figured as much, but why is the clause then even there? Is it only for flavor purposes?

You have to use the ability after the time that blockers would be declared and this phrase is the standard way to do that.
 
When Kytheon exiles himself, can you choose to return him to the Command Zone?

Technically, yes, but there's no reason to do so. Even if you do, he'll still return to the battlefield flipped immediately.

You say that, but MTGO fucks this up incredibly. By default, Commanders go to the Command Zone no matter what, and they won't come back. Brago is notorious for this - if you target himself for the pseudo-vigilance, he'll go to the Command Zone and won't come back unless you change the behavior after the game starts.
 

Daedardus

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IYou have to use the ability after the time that blockers would be declared and this phrase is the standard way to do that.

Ah I see now.

I'm not sure what you're asking. Without the clause that says you can't block it, you would be able to block it.

I was refering to the 'if it isn't blocked' clause.

There are cards that make attacking creatures become blocked even if they're unblockable.]

Are you sure? Can't effects always precede effects that say that something can be done, so normally the ability should get countered. It's something different with flying and intimidate though.
 

Yeef

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You say that, but MTGO fucks this up incredibly. By default, Commanders go to the Command Zone no matter what, and they won't come back. Brago is notorious for this - if you target himself for the pseudo-vigilance, he'll go to the Command Zone and won't come back unless you change the behavior after the game starts.
Then MTGO is bugged. When an effect that makes a card change goes brings it back, it can track the card no matter where it goes, even if where it would normally go is replaced. The exception is if it specifies the zone it brings it back from. So, for example, if your commander gets hit by Fiend Hunter and you opt to replace the exile effect with sending it to the command zone, when Fiend Hunter leaves the battlefield, your commander won't come back, because it specifies "exiled card."

In the same scenario with Fairgrounds Warden instead of Fiend Hunter, when the Warden leaves the battlefield, you can return your commander to the battlefield from the command zone.

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Also Insidious Mist can technically be blocked if it still was on the Illusive Tormenter side when blockers were declared and only flipped afterwards.
 

Wichu

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So I've recently swapped in Thrasios as a partner because I was never using Kydele.

He's been putting in solid work. Stocking up Druids' Repository, triggering ninjutsu, and I even killed someone with commander damage earlier today.

I've yet to activate his ability even once :p
 

Justin

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I just put together my first constructed deck and was wondering if one of you experienced players could take a look and let me know if I am going in the correct direction

Note: I just started playing during Amonkhet so 90% of the cards are from that set and are all from packs I have opened in the last few weeks.

I tried to build the deck with goals
1) Use cheap control and damage spells to make enigma drake really big
2) Slow the game down long enough to get Hazoret or Glorybringer out

My main question right now is should I trade out the blue cartouches for a 4th magma spray and a 3rd shock or is that overkill?

http://deck.tk/6Blt8Niv

Lands
1 Highland Lake
10 Island
10 Mountain

Spells
3 Cancel
2 Cartouche of Knowledge
1 Disallow
3 Essence Scatter
1 Insult // Injury
3 Magma Spray
2 Reduce // Rubble
2 Shock

Creatures
1 Baral, Chief of Compliance
1 Bloodrage Brawler
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 Cryptic Serpent
1 Curator of Mysteries
3 Enigma Drake
2 Flameblade Adept
1 Glorybringer
2 Harsh Mentor
2 Hazoret the Fervent
2 Labyrinth Guardian
1 Seeker of Insight
3 Thresher Lizard
1 Vizier of Tumbling Sands
 

Rafy

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So my PTE Gateway promo playset showed up, and the return address was Hasbro here in Italy (same address shows up in his MKM account). I guess the guy that was selling them is a local WOTC employee?

Has anything like this happened to anyone else? Also, doesn't this mean that Hasbro is acknowledging the second hand market?
 

kirblar

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So my PTE Gateway promo playset showed up, and the return address was Hasbro here in Italy (same address shows up in his MKM account). I guess the guy that was selling them is a local WOTC employee?

Has anything like this happened to anyone else? Also, doesn't this mean that Hasbro is acknowledging the second hand market?
Uh, I think this means there's a brazen guy working at Hasbro lol.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Figured as much, but why is the clause then even there? Is it only for flavor purposes?
Because you can transform Elusive Tormentor after blocks are declared. They want you to have attacked with Mist, not the Vampire.
 

bigkrev

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It's like fine to be not into the new design strategy or whatever, but c'mon, there wasn't anything "fun and unique" about affects-everybody slivers.

But when Slivers were introduced, that was how they functioned in the story. Volrath created artificial Slivers that could utilize all the powers of the swarm!
 

Ashodin

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Because you can transform Elusive Tormentor after blocks are declared. They want you to have attacked with Mist, not the Vampire.

basically the deck wants to have Tormentor flipped and sitting there gaining counters from Energy gain until it's basically a two or three turn clock. I mean the deck is aggressive enough that it should be a two turn clock anyway.
 
So my PTE Gateway promo playset showed up, and the return address was Hasbro here in Italy (same address shows up in his MKM account). I guess the guy that was selling them is a local WOTC employee?

Has anything like this happened to anyone else? Also, doesn't this mean that Hasbro is acknowledging the second hand market?

I mean, people put their work address as their mailing address for packages all the time?
 
Finally listened to the new Magic Story podcast from this Wednesday.
* The Mending was around 60 years ago in-universe. This ties into how the Great Aether Boom on Kaladesh was 60 years ago. They don't explain how.
* The moonfolk children that were with Tamiyo in that one story are indeed her biological children. She isn't married.
* They left it ambiguous whether Xenagos went to the underworld when he died or not.
* Nissa is not necessarily permanently blue.
* They got a big laugh out of people theorizing that Marit Lage was behind Shadows Over Innistrad. That said, they were disappointed that everyone figured out Emrakul was behind it so soon. They were happy that the reaction to Bolas being the ruler of Amonkhet was, "Yes, everyone there is going to be evil!" and thus it being a fairly nice place would surprise readers as much as the characters in-story.
* Amonkhet mothers do not raise babies. They give birth then hand them over to mummies and viziers. Pregnant women keep training for 2-3 into their pregnancy. Time is set aside during preparation for the green Trial of Strength for coming to term, giving birth, and recovering.
* When talking about the hieroglyphics on Amonkhet depicting eight gods, they go wink wink nudge nudge about how wasteful it would be to just kill three gods.
 
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