Imperfected
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This is why I only play with friends I know and can easily beat up.
Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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This is why I only play with friends I know and can easily beat up.
SigmasonicX
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Next ban announcement: "Although the top 16 decks of the Pro Tour were all Copycat decks, we are confident that with some modifications, the new decks we saw that didn't make it to Day 2 could prove to be a formidable challenge for them. While there has been no sign of this in Magic Online results yet, we would like to give it more time."
Simply Sarah
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Nah, this is fine for now. Gush Mentor was warping the format pretty badly so we can wait and see where things go from here.
I play top in 1 deck in edh, and that is strictly for maelstrom so I have some ideas of what I am going to cascade into.
I am fortunate that a majority of the people I play with don't play sdt. Though I do run a buck of things like null rod and stony silence so they likely wouldn't be able to use it anyways.
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I spent money on Hearthstone.
GregLombardi
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When they first didn't ban combo, I bought 4x saheeli. I wasn't sure why I did it, but now I know. My subconscious was telling me that Wizards would continue to be absolutely insane.
And then I saw the new Gideon.
And then I saw Glorybringer.
Maybe all these cards don't fit in the same deck, and we are all the crazy ones and Wizards are absolute geniuses.
Or maybe, this will be the worst standard we have ever seen.
And then I saw the new Gideon.
And then I saw Glorybringer.
Maybe all these cards don't fit in the same deck, and we are all the crazy ones and Wizards are absolute geniuses.
Or maybe, this will be the worst standard we have ever seen.
Haha fair. Honestly I should play it more locally. I'm dumb for not.
Imperfected
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Now I understand. They made Vehicles to try and snag the Hearthstone demo!
cooltrainer
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I'm so glad Top got banned. Miracles was such a miserable deck to play against. They could have maybe banned Terminus instead as this ban effects other decks too but Top is just so damn annoying. I play a spell. Spin Top in Response. Think for 10 seconds. Put back. Fetch.Spin Top. Think some more. Let the spell resolve. EOT Spin Top. It had to go.
In case you guys don't know yet,
EDH banlist ban leovold and unban protean hulk.
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http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18588
EDH banlist ban leovold and unban protean hulk.
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http://mtgcommander.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18588
Wait, doesn't hulk just win you the game on the spot when you sac it? Weird decision.
Curious what this will do to Leovold's price, considering it just got quite a bit better in Legacy.... Hoping to pick up two copies soon, maybe I'll be able to snag a panic sell.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Can't believe they went as far as to ban top (which is 100% good for the game outside of those poor miracle players, if only for all the time it wastes)....but don't hit standard at all?
I just....wat.
Also, anyone playing Top in EDH is just....on some level, for 'competitive' EDH, I get it, but it's got the same problem as any other deck with a bunch of tutors, or to some extent, someone like Sisay - if you're playing toolbox/answer EDH, it's gonna get boring for everyone else real quick.
Interesting to see the Leovold ban, though.
It can, but unless you have a haste enabler (which, to be fair, would probably be a thing in anyone playing with it), the opponent still has at least one turn to answer, or exile it before you sac it, I imagine?
I just....wat.
Also, anyone playing Top in EDH is just....on some level, for 'competitive' EDH, I get it, but it's got the same problem as any other deck with a bunch of tutors, or to some extent, someone like Sisay - if you're playing toolbox/answer EDH, it's gonna get boring for everyone else real quick.
Interesting to see the Leovold ban, though.
It can, but unless you have a haste enabler (which, to be fair, would probably be a thing in anyone playing with it), the opponent still has at least one turn to answer, or exile it before you sac it, I imagine?
This Cat non-ban sounds like the same shot they did with CawBlade when it was legal. When it took over the meta, they kept waiting and saying they were working on answers. New Phyrexia was supposed to have an answer to it, but nothing changed (still not sure what that answer was supposed to be, think it might have been make them discard Hawk and then Surgical Extraction it?). They finally banned it right before it was going to rotate anyway.
I'm really happy I'm not playing standard right now. CawBlade sucked, hate playing in formats where you have to build a deck to beat one deck or hope you don't see that deck. Sucks though, since I've been playing steadily enough to have tue cards to make a standard deck right now, just don't have the motivation to.
I'm really happy I'm not playing standard right now. CawBlade sucked, hate playing in formats where you have to build a deck to beat one deck or hope you don't see that deck. Sucks though, since I've been playing steadily enough to have tue cards to make a standard deck right now, just don't have the motivation to.
Hulk let you win on the spot if you open flash + hulk. Or if you play karador boonweaver, it's replace boonweaver as a win con lol
It's a combo with Future Sight and Stone Calendar or Helm of Awakening. Otherwise, yeah, screw Top.
divisionbyzorro
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There are already a bajillion ways to win instantly if you're building hyper-competitive EDH, and Protean Hulk is just super sweet. I don't think it makes the format any worse to have it.
LMAO MY FOIL LEOVOLD IS GARBAGE NOW
Its cool though, while I found great joy in locking people out of games and demoralizing the entire table in less than 3 turns, the deck was super broken and often garnered hate that was warranted. I did invest a shit ton of money in that damn deck though, fuck..............
Its cool though, while I found great joy in locking people out of games and demoralizing the entire table in less than 3 turns, the deck was super broken and often garnered hate that was warranted. I did invest a shit ton of money in that damn deck though, fuck..............
Run tasigur and cut a few cards (puzzle box). Bug is great at control, and still does some nasty stuff.
Yeah most likely the plan. Might just got 4 color control with Atraxa.
Still feels shitty to have a deck that you spent so much time and effort playing and mastering just be killed in an instant. Sigh.....................
Leovold is played in Legacy. I'm sure you'll still be able to get a pretty penny for it.
And with Deathrite Shaman decks looking a lot better now, I see a long future in Legacy for him.
....Unless they ban Deathrite too, but I don't wanna think about that.
I don't think it's in any immediate danger, no?
I hope not, I love seeing deathrite in competitive Magic. It would be a shame if he were gone from Modern AND Legacy
Joe Lossett was surprisingly ok ish with the ban, but he did think deathrite should have gone along with it.
Garbage? Uhh.... when did you buy Leovold? You might want to look at those prices again.....
If you don't want it, I'll take it off your hands though
Garbage? Uhh.... when did you buy Leovold? You might want to look at those prices again.....
If you don't want it, I'll take it off your hands though
Have you ever heard of a format called Legacy?
Imperfected
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What even is the most expensive card driven more or less entirely by EDH demand? Atraxa?
I mean, the fact that you only need one of each for EDH tends to cause it to have a less profound impact on prices in general, I would assume.
I mean, the fact that you only need one of each for EDH tends to cause it to have a less profound impact on prices in general, I would assume.
Hell, today might even be a good today to jump in on Leovold actually, if you've missed the chance to catch him at cheaper prices before. BUG decks will surely rise in popularity.
I'm considering picking up some plateaus and magi of the moon for d and t. Still not sure how the deck will handle an elves resurgence, but the red splash definitely gives it extra game against 4 color control, bug and lands.
I'm considering picking up some plateaus and magi of the moon for d and t. Still not sure how the deck will handle an elves resurgence, but the red splash definitely gives it extra game against 4 color control, bug and lands.
Joe Lossett was surprisingly ok ish with the ban, but he did think deathrite should have gone along with it.
Garbage? Uhh.... when did you buy Leovold? You might want to look at those prices again.....
If you don't want it, I'll take it off your hands though
I opened it on release night. It was destined
Doubling Season is like a $50 card, don't know of anywhere else it is played besides EDH.
Oh you didn't even buy a single? Jesus, that card is over $100.
Edit: Over $200, my mistake.
Imperfected
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That's a likely candidate, considering the price isn't being driven (as far as I know) by other formats or particularly by rarity, considering it's had a reprint. I suppose speculation could also be a factor, though I never know how to evaluate that.
Jesus tapdancing Christ
DashReindeer
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Oh goddamn it. I was literally in the process of making a pretty costly Leovold deck. This sucks. I needed a strong deck and Leovold was gonna fit the bill quite nicely.
Imperfected
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I'm old and slow. You're going to have to explain the joke to me slowly.
Is it Glorybringer's big ol' butt or something?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
At this point I expect a Dynavolt Tower ban.
Imperfected
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Gotta hit the real troublemakers: Aetherflux Reservoir, Paradoxical Outcome, and Ornithopter.
I don't know that I agree. I feel like the set has a good mix of aggressive decks and slower decks.
I will say that the card that I expected to perform well and then performed even better than expectation is Stinging Shot. It's perfectly main-deckable.
Creatures with high toughness are considered to have big butts. Around here, Grim Contest was always just called "Butt Fight."
Imperfected
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Creatures with high toughness are considered to have big butts. Around here, Grim Contest was always just called "Butt Fight."
Oh, eh. I don't really see it at all. The only impressive creature in the format that isn't "top-heavy" is Scaled Behemoth, and it's not like his butt is that big, proportionately.
I mean, it's a format with six Indestructible creatures and absolute tons of creature recursion/value on death, not just from Embalm but also from stuff like Devoted Crop-mate. Then on top of that the good removal in the set is mostly unconditional (again, because of Indestructible and Embalm), so it's not like you're even dodging bullets by having junk in the trunk.
Like, where are these big butts at? I sure didn't see any of them at prerelease, and I was running Green even.
ThLunarian
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How does Leovold lock people out of the game? I must be missing something
Imperfected
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He enables control and denial strategies where you just don't let opponents play anything, which while a valid Magic deck archetype, is really not what people play EDH for.
divisionbyzorro
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https://edhrec.com/commanders/leovold-emissary-of-trest
The first card on the list is Teferi's Puzzle Box, which will either make you shudder with fear or cackle with glee.
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