Familienoberhauptvogel
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ash barrens, maybe vial smasher?
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Magic: the Gathering |OT9| Kaladesh - Cruisin' Down the Street in my 6/4
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ash barrens, maybe vial smasher?
ThLunarian
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I have been watching The Leftovers recently.
If you had to assign a Magic color to the Guilty Remnant, what would it be?
I think they might be the best example of a colorless character/organization, along with the Eldrazi.
If you had to assign a Magic color to the Guilty Remnant, what would it be?
I think they might be the best example of a colorless character/organization, along with the Eldrazi.
charlequin
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The benefit I tend to think of (because the hidden-information one is real, but incredibly narrow) is that all matched basics make it easier for you to keep track of what mana you have available, since you can immediately see that all the forests (or whatever) are the same thing.
HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKK
Simply Sarah
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I dunno. It's like, yeah, it's a Judge version of a ridiculously expensive card but it's also a comically overpriced card and how many people will actually want to buy these things? It's not exactly FoW or Mana Drain. It's basically an EDH card. So I guess I've answered who will actually want to buy these things.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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blame narset
I think it was expensive before her though
Edit: Just checked, it jumped with Journey into Nyx.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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blame her anyway and target the narset player even sooner next game.
Simply Sarah
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Almost as good? Demonic Tutor is almost always a better card because one generic more for getting the card into your hand now instead of next time you'd draw a card (assuming an opponent doesn't mess with your library) is huge. Additionally, the card that Imperial Seal was copied from, Vampiric Tutor, is outright strictly better due to having been printed in a set where instants existed. And yes, both are much much cheaper as well.
Joe Molotov
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Ban EDH
I did not realize it didn't put it into your hand. Probably because it costs a million dollars and I've never played with it. Yes, Demonic is better in most cases.
It's an even worse Vampiric Tutor... Imperial Seal is a sorcery and Vampiric Tutor is an instant.
Yup. I admitted I was wrong in the post above yours
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I prefer recursion.
ok there Golgari
Wulfric
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Ashodin, I think you might enjoy this MtG name generator. Found it on reddit. Some the names follow Magic's naming conventions pretty darn well. Here's some demons:
I love the "outlandish archdemon". Like, regular demons are so reserved, but not this guy!
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Nah that's too good. My kind of recursion is mistveil plains and time spiral.
goldlion054
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Somebody understands the way this game meant to be played!
"God's Beard!"
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Clearly the solution is to ban Greater Gargadon.
Infinite Stars
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If you nuke Amalgam, then they have to go without the thing that actually made Dredge so strong. Because Amalgam is a stupid, stupid card.
I know Wizards has said "the ban list will be exactly as small as it can", but I would totally be fine if they added all Dredge >=4 cards to the list. All those cards turn Cathartic Reunion into "Discard 2, see up to 18 cards+ Get All the power on table", which is literally stupid.
I know Wizards has said "the ban list will be exactly as small as it can", but I would totally be fine if they added all Dredge >=4 cards to the list. All those cards turn Cathartic Reunion into "Discard 2, see up to 18 cards+ Get All the power on table", which is literally stupid.
Start there then keep taking pieces one by one if you have to. If the deck doesn't survive, well, fuck it anyway.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm sure this was asked before but what stops wizard from printing snow duals in some supplemental draft set?
They could make the next conspiracy be under ice or something with Marchesa as Elsa and this time Jeskai.
They could make the next conspiracy be under ice or something with Marchesa as Elsa and this time Jeskai.
Infinite Stars
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't snow Duals impossible because they're functionally the same as regular duals? I'm assuming you mean ABUR Duals but with snow type.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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not how I'd interpret it considering there are things like Skred, Scrying Sheets and Snow Mana all based on the additional super type.
charlequin
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Their self-imposed additional restriction to not violate the "spirit" of the Reserved List.
I'd settle for Troll and Conflagrate. The inevitability provided by Conflagrate is the real issue for decks that can deal with creatures. Maybe Narcomeba and Troll would be fine.
As an infect player, I'll be honest and say they should probably go ahead and ban Become Immense at the same time. Let's slow the format down a little and see how things shake out.
charlequin
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I don't think "eliminate Dredge as a deck" is a good goal at all. You want to hurt it enough that it wins slower and/or less often, not eliminate the archetype.
Joe Molotov
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I would be okay with banning Greater Gargadon or rebanning Cave Troll or both.
Simply Sarah
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I'd go further and say that if anything should be banned first then it's Become Immense. Infect scares me more than Dredge at the moment, in part because you can at least somewhat hate out Dredge and it isn't as consistent at being lightning fast.
You promise? What a STUPID card.
divisionbyzorro
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Pump spells are one of the most terrible card types in Magic.
Become Immense is proof that even the stupidest type of card can be broken if pushed too far.
Become Immense is proof that even the stupidest type of card can be broken if pushed too far.
I don't think re-banning Troll would eliminate the deck since it can just add Thug as a less effective replacement. I don't think a ban of Conflagrate would either. It just puts the deck all in on being able to swing through for lethal. Troll and Imp might. Amalgam alone might. Narcomeba might. Hell, I don't know.
Decks like Affinity and Infect have very fast kills but they're both more interactive than Dredge currently is. There are a lot more main deck ways to reasonably interact with Infect than there are with Dredge. Yes, Blossoming Defense made this tougher but you can still attack the deck with removal or use creatures to gum up some of their most explosive Glistener Elf hands. Most decks don't really interact with Dredge game one since you're basically hoping they whiff terribly when dredging, mulligan several times, or keep a sketch hand. Dredge match-ups currently are pretty much the epitome of one of the major complaints about the format since the match boils down to "Did you get your sideboard card/graveyard hate in your starting hand?" Even worse, the deck is so fast at getting bodies on the board that even if you have one of the hate options available in hand, a number of them can still be too slow to actually turn the tide in your favor, especially if you have to mulligan down to find it or happen to be on the draw rather than the play.
Again, as an Infect player I think Become Immense probably needs a ban unless they decide to go another route (say Elf or Inkmoth Nexus or they print a card in Aether Revolt that removes counters from players which would interact with Infect and Energy counters) but Dredge is the unhealthier of the two for the overall format as it stands.
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