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[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Standard coverage is just *dramatic pause* really boring.

 

[A Serious Man]

This game has been nuts.

 

[SigmasonicX]

This game has been nuts.

It's intense when Eldrazi decks are barely hanging in there and have to build up their board state to take full advantage of Emrakul.

Though the fact that every other CoCo vs. Emrakul match seems to go this way is getting a bit old.

 

[kirblar]

MG's comp needs to wait till 10 to fight, they're going to get outhealed by Auriel until then and don't have the burst they need yet.

 

[bigkrev]

That game was nuts, but it shows how good CoCo is that it took 3 Emrakuls and 3 Ishkanah to loose

MG's comp needs to wait till 10 to fight, they're going to get outhealed by Auriel until then and don't have the burst they need yet.

Word

 

[kirblar]

goddamnit had two tabs open lol

 

[Firemind]

And we still have one more year of Reflector Mage and Spell Queller. Enjoy!

 

[ThLunarian]

I wonder if the half hidden larger than life card will debut the 'can't leave the battlefield unless it dies' clause that was talked about in innistrad.

That wouldn't really make sense on a sorcery

 

[ironmang]

9-5-1 in the scg open. Was going to play bg delirium but didnt feel like paying 100 to complete the liliana playset so just borrowed bant company. Played it pretty poorly but the deck is so good it doesnt matter lol. Got top 64 and $100.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

9-5-1 in the scg open. Was going to play bg delirium but didnt feel like paying 100 to complete the liliana playset so just borrowed bant company. Played it pretty poorly but the deck is so good it doesnt matter lol.

Making day 2 is already awesome.

 

[cooltrainer]

And we still have one more year of Reflector Mage and Spell Queller. Enjoy!

Collected Company rotating out will reduce the power a bit, but will still probably be pretty annoying.

 

[SigmasonicX]

I hadn't realized there was literally a guy with a laptop sitting at the table just off screen.

 

["God's Beard!"]

lol Oliver Tiu is 18 years old, has 18 life and is the 18th ranked player.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

What is this?

 

[kirblar]

Game Day promo.

 

[bigkrev]

I love that Lighning Helix is a RW card or a B card

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I meant direct damage black spell but I looked it up and there's a couple.

 

[SigmasonicX]

I meant direct damage black spell but I looked it up and there's a couple.

An odd bit of history for the player-drain version of these effects is that they used to deal damage originally, but with the damage prevention effects common in early Magic, it was changed to life loss to make it stronger. But then with planeswalkers, dealing damage became stronger (since you can redirect it to planeswalkers), so they switched back to that.

The versions that hit creatures always deal damage, though. I'm actually surprised there never seems to have been a power/toughness reducing version. (Besides Profane Command)

Direct comparisons for this card:

EDIT: And the finals are CoCo vs. CoCo.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Let's go BBD! SCG content managers are stirring in their grave right now.

 

[Firemind]

Bant mirror

yawn

 

["God's Beard!"]

Man, Jeremy Jarvis is really just the best. I want to hear him talk more than anybody from Wizards.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Wait there was an ID at the world championships? That's embarrassing.

 

[Ozigizo]

Boy, I can't wait for rotation.

 

[An-Det]

That seems pretty lame, not just giving auto-platinum to anyone who makes the top 4. That's a shitty kicker to whoever loses the finals.

 

["God's Beard!"]

This tournament was made for BBD. He's not the format master the other players are, but very few players have the cross-format success that he does. He's got GP top 8s in Limited, Standard, Modern and Legacy, and all relatively recently.

 

[duxstar]

Magic a competitive game lol, it seems like someone always gets mana screwed in the finals

 

["God's Beard!"]

Magic a competitive game lol, it seems like someone always gets mana screwed in the finals

world goddamn champs is a GW mirror and dux still finds a way to complain

 

[duxstar]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";215893639]world goddamn champs is a GW mirror and dux still finds a way to complain[/QUOTE]

lol this isn't G/W the way it was meant to be played damnit! Also hard to root for a known cheater

 

["God's Beard!"]

lol this isn't G/W the way it was meant to be played damnit! Also hard to root for a known cheater

Who is a known cheater?

 

[Firemind]

carvalho

 

["God's Beard!"]

carvalho

Oh yeah? I don't know anything about the dude.

 

[Ozigizo]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";215893996]Oh yeah? I don't know anything about the dude.[/QUOTE]

Seems he got kicked for trying to include a card behind another card in a sleeve, which was a perfect counter for his match-up.

I still can't believe cheaters aren't just banned for life.

 

[The Technomancer]

Seems he got kicked for trying to include a card behind another card in a sleeve

How the hell would you pull that off in a match? What slight of hand would allow you to pull out and conceal the top card?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Carvalho was the guy that had the secret Hornet Queen under his playmat.

 

[A Serious Man]

Tom Martell and Ben Stark were going at it with Carvalho on twitter last night. He's been caught cheating multiple times apparently.

 

[kirblar]

Tom Martell and Ben Stark were going at it with Carvalho on twitter last night. He's been caught cheating multiple times apparently.

I think I know what Martell's story is (if it's the one from Amsterdam) and it's crazy (in terms of the gumption you need to have to do it.)

 

[El Topo]

Tom Martell and Ben Stark were going at it with Carvalho on twitter last night. He's been caught cheating multiple times apparently.

He has been accused by certain players and (iirc) was DQed in the past, which is why I was a bit unhappy with his spot yesterday.
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/29929_Cheating-At-The-World-Championship.html

 

[The Technomancer]

Carvalho was the guy that had the secret Hornet Queen under his playmat.

What the fuck. Lifetime ban

 

[Imperfected]

Can we get Reflector Mage banned on the Shahrazad "it's just fucking obnoxious" logic?

 

[xptoxyz]

How the hell would you pull that off in a match? What slight of hand would allow you to pull out and conceal the top card?

Because ofc it wasn't inside another sleeve, that would really have to be hard to pull off I would guess, if not impossible in a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. If you google it, seems like it was under a piece of paper or something.

He said he had forgotten it/made mistake, card had been exiled before, ofc that is impossible to prove. Everyone can make those sort of mistakes. I bet high level players such as him do make them much less often, but it's still possible to happen. He was DQ'ed from the event, received no ban.

Seems he got kicked for trying to include a card behind another card in a sleeve, which was a perfect counter for his match-up.

I still can't believe cheaters aren't just banned for life.

While I do believe that would be the appropriate time for a ban where there is no doubt of the presence of cheating, in the days when I played (and I couldn't play really often) I came across completely incompetent judge. And even if not and incompetent judge, mistakes will be made, so unless there is hard proof I'm not sure on lifetime bans.

Without equating the importance of both matters or making light of the more serious one, you can compare it to wrongfully convicted people in society, some might get released, long sentences and death penalties won't.

You might or might not know that in the rulebook things such as "lying" are under "cheating." I know bans under that article have been dished out in "he said, she said" situations, how does a neutral judge even do that? I'm sure there's something in the rulebook more apropriate, do something along the lines of DQ'ing both. Banning on "intuition" which is basically a coin flip that could hurt the honest player. Not saying this is a common issue, but it can happen.

The game is mostly self policed judges are there to resolve situations where players aren't able to police themselves or to resolve outcomes of admissions of errors, etc. by a player or sometimes both of them. Going around swinging banhammers without good proof seems like a bad idea.

 

[bigkrev]

God Standard is so complicated. I'm so thankful I never touch the format

Also, MY GOD THE DOUBLE COMMAND BLOWOUT

 

[Hero]

So Carvalho has a known history of cheating.

It absolutely baffles me how Wizards doesn't ban people for life for cheating.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Can we get Reflector Mage banned on the Shahrazad "it's just fucking obnoxious" logic?

Unban Shahrazad

 

[El Topo]

"How does the game end though?"

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

The best thing about Reflector Mage is that the limited archetype it was made for wasn't even good in OGW.

 

[xptoxyz]

God Standard is so complicated. I'm so thankful I never touch the format

Also, MY GOD THE DOUBLE COMMAND BLOWOUT

What do you play? Standard was so dominant when I played, I guess Legacy was taking off to pretty big levels and then Modern was released, can't remember if it made much of a dent.

On it being complicated I guess that depends on the cycle?

 

[kirblar]

So Carvalho has a known history of cheating.

It absolutely baffles me how Wizards doesn't ban people for life for cheating.

It's utterly ridiculous.

 

[bigkrev]

What is the time on this game? If this was a timed round would this game alone have taken the entire match time

What do you play? Standard was so dominant when I played, I guess Legacy was taking off to pretty big levels and then Modern was released, can't remember if it made much of a dent.

On it being complicated I guess that depends on the cycle?

I play Modern and Draft. This specific standard is insanely complicated

 

[A Serious Man]

That Command topdeck, god damn.

 

[alternade]

This is boring