funkystudent
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or "Hopefully we can keep quite long enough for Sony to tell everyone there used game plans so we dont get all the heat when we fully announce ours".
Major Nelson/MS issues an official statement regarding Used Games on XBox One
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or "Hopefully we can keep quite long enough for Sony to tell everyone there used game plans so we dont get all the heat when we fully announce ours".
Crimson_Gold
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exactly what it means
Your friends can't borrow unless they also borrow your account. Cottage won't work unless it has Internet connection; if it does, your rights stay with your account.
That's sarcasm right? He basically said nothing.
Yeah, let's hope MS keeps thinking Sony is going to announce some DRM, so that MS can pull the rug from underneath Sony's feet and say they're not doing DRM anymore like Sony is, because Sony would never see that coming a mile away, much less ten feet away.
If Sony thought having DRM would keep EA from cozying up to Microsoft, Sony would've taken DRM further than MS, but Sony don't give a fuck about no EA anymore. Sony made its bet on indies, and if EA wanna be a bitch about it, Sony could moneyhat Konami for dat PES and Take Two for dat NBA2K.
It ain't all peaches and roses for EA and Microsoft just because of some unprecedented partnership and NFL deal. There are many other pieces in play, Sony will make sure of that.
If sony pisses off EA that will be the end of sony. They still release a ton of games and there are a lot of big titles here in the states . No madden on the ps4 ? It be dead in the water.
Sony's out for gamers is the but but we leave it up to developers card and the look see we don't put the drm on first party games.
There is no way ubisoft / ea / activision and others wont want the same control they have on the xbox
Sony's out for gamers is the but but we leave it up to developers card and the look see we don't put the drm on first party games.
There is no way ubisoft / ea / activision and others wont want the same control they have on the xbox
EA, or anyone else, isn't abandoning anyone. Shareholders aren't down with limiting the market based on some fairy-tell dream of defeating evil pirates and used sales. Thats handing the market over to the competition.
Indeed. But hey, your friend can always pay the full price fee so he can own the game as well, lol.
If Sony pisses off EA? Haha... EA is no longer the stalwart it used to be. It is a shell of its former glory, reduced to clinging to Madden harder than Activision clings to COD. Madden *NEEDS* the PS4 sales, guy. Ubisoft and Activision all *NEED* the PS4 sales. Do you think Xbox One is going to sell 10 million copies of Madden 2014/2015 by itself? Do you think the shareholders will suffer the decrease in sales, profits, etc? Come on, now.
If anything, EA risks pissing Sony off. If I were Sony, do you know how hard I would be on the phone with Konami and Take Two right now? I would be making them feel special like their name was CD Projekt Red.
so when is the next ea game coming out on the wii u ?
Your thinking like there are already tens of millions of ps4s out there. But not a single one is sold. The ps4 can be still born before its even launched if developer support isn't there.
In the states if it doesn't get Madden and the xbox does at launch people will buy the xbox which means there will be fewer ps4s out there which means it makes it easier to not publish other games on the platform.
The majority of the profits for EA will be on the xbox 360 and ps3 for the next 2 years.
I'm not sure why you'd think that even would be an option since EA already announced it for PS4.
http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=766330
Its allways an option. Games are canceled all the time. Anyway if you read my post you would see what I was replying to. The notion that only sony has bargaining power and not EA is insane . IF EA wants drm then sony will allow them to do it.
Guy, are you really fully aware of how business cycles work? PS4 and Xbox One are launching in the same holiday. The race to its first 10 million for Xbox One is not going to be as easy as it was for Xbox 360 in its first year. And now EA needs Madden to sell more than ever before, especially in the wake of mass layoffs. Do you think companies just pull CEO resignations out of their ass because it's fun?
You wanna talk about developer support? Bungie is debuting Destiny gameplay at Sony's E3 conference. CD Projekt Red and Capcom won't even confirm Witcher 3 and Deep Down for Xbox One, inexplicably. So there's no sound logic for how you can come to the conclusion that developer support isn't (or won't be) there.
To take a line out of your book, people will buy the PS4 which means there will be fewer Xbox One systems to sell Madden exclusives on.
StreetsAhead
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This 'Oh, well, Sony might have an anti-consumer system too!' argument is ridiculous. It doesn't make Microsoft any better and it doesn't make the situation as a whole better either. Only worse.
You really think EA is going to bank on XBone success? A multimillion dollar risk with no way of predicting how it will pan out?
You must not do business a lot.
once again in 2013 ea will make very very little money off either of the two systems. They will make money off the ps3 and xbox 360 .
Xbox wont fail as much as everyone here wants it too for some reason.
Sony could have come out and said they wont block used games in anyway nor have drm in anyway on their games but they choose not to say that.
sakipon
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In that case I'd love to hear a European lawyer voice their opinion on the legality of this. Sounds very suspicious that a person cannot loan their disc to a family member across the country without being there in person to active it.
Edited: Unless MS allows free transfer of licence to another account. But not sure that'll happen.
how do you loan ios apps in Europe ? How do you loan a movie on psn ?
Guy... Sony has already said that they won't require an internet connection to play PS4. They said it in an interview the day following their PS4 reveal.
How are they going to enforce DRM without a mandatory internet connection? With a magic stick up consumers' ass?
Psycho_Mantis
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lmao, EA are in position to abandon Sony. Have you read their financials man, pretty much half their revenue on consoles comes from Sony. Their investors will not be happy.
fart town usa
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holy smokes,
it's all coming to a head.
the coming months are going to be ones for the history books.
documentaries even, 20-30 years down the road. ha.
it's all coming to a head.
the coming months are going to be ones for the history books.
documentaries even, 20-30 years down the road. ha.
I am struggling to understand how someone can equate digital purchases to physical purchases. Thank you for that.
Need Nelson's face shopped onto bob there.
This is the guy when Sony didn't show off the console itself said "that's one way to unveil a new console" or something to that effect. He certainly showed us how MS shows off a console, pushing gamers aside, anti-consumer acts shrouded as "features", and "answers" to questions raised from the event that made things even more confusing and/or cryptic.
Dreams-Visions
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Nah. People -- gamers in particular -- have a very, very short fucking memory. If the games deliver and they find a way to get past this used games/borrowing policy that doesn't shit on consumers, nobody will remember this.
Miles Quaritch
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Indeed, you only need to look at how quickly the Sim City debacle was forgotten about. Sites moved on, gamers moved on too. Some are still bitter, but the majority just went back to playing the game when it was finally working and forgot all about the fact that it didn't work on release.
Saying that, this does have the makings of possibly lasting longer depending on how they handle it when they next talk about it.
Do you think Microsoft would prefer that we stopped talking about the Xbox One altogether? We won't, and the negativity will cloud all our discussions about it until there's something more interesting to talk about.
I am seriously completely dumbfounded by how badly Microsoft handled this. They knew this was a sore issue and they should either have explained fully or not talked about it all, period. Instead, they seemed completely not prepared. I mean, really? So weird. They're a megacorporation, they should have TONS of PR agencies that prepare every single word. wtf
I was bored, there you go:
Amazing.
Impeccable
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It's possible but the overwhelming reason why I'll never buy SimCity is the debacle. Take that as you will.
Joel Was Right
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5000 comments complaining on his blog. Impressive.
Miles Quaritch
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Still pales somewhat in comparison to the backlash Instagram received when they changed their ToS. (an an example of how much focus is needed to force change or make a company see the error of their ways)
Needs to go mainstream.
He says right there in his "statement" that they're aware, so yes, keep voicing the same complaints. Drive the point home how bad an idea this is.
You know what just hit me? Once a year, me and seven friends retire to a friend's cabin. We normally bring a Wii and PS3, and the main event is the Mario Party 7 drinking game. We're there for some days, barbeque, sunbathe, swim and play games.
The Xbone will be excluded from this, won't it? I can't bring my console, and other people their games (as we do now). We're moving further and further away from owning the things we buy, and I'm just further displeased by the Xbone with this.
The Xbone will be excluded from this, won't it? I can't bring my console, and other people their games (as we do now). We're moving further and further away from owning the things we buy, and I'm just further displeased by the Xbone with this.
The fact that it doesn't set the record straight or clarify anything.
Nope its just wishful fanboys and their exaggeration without even waiting to get information in the first place. Sony has not said anything. in fact they did not even want to address it back in feb at all people will get back to reality when the facts come out it always happens that way.
Neither does xbox one. It only needs internet to check authentication because you can play games without the disc not to play games that statement is very misleading that you're making. Secondly it only needs to check once a day per the information that's out there and its not official yet at all. So as far as I am concerned it could mean the same for both. They both don't require internet to play games doesn't mean they both wont require it to authenticate games.
