Skyblivion Team issue official statement on Oblivion Remake

Then why are you in this thread?
Because I am on the internet. Which we all know is a mistake and waste of everyones time....
And I know it's not 2 russian dudes. I know what the project is.
btw I was modding oblivion and morrowind myself.... I know how to use the editor.
 
I do not care. Doesn't make me insufferable tool to be a realist.
It could be the best mod ever. It does not interest me. These projects never interest me and I don't get why people get excited.
I am the person who likes the original game and doesn't need anything else. Unless the old game is locked on old system.
I don't have to be excited.
THEY ARE IN TOUCH WITH BETHESDA YOU STUPID.

No need to be a party pooper or write total nonsense, let people enjoy things.

Oh I did look it up

I don't care how it looks. It's still just fanmade trash 🤷‍♂️
Not liking this kind of project does not mean it's trash. Let me remind you that what was originally a mod is THE most popular game on Steam and inspired tons of games you most likely played and enjoyed. Grown up.

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Because I am on the internet. Which we all know is a mistake and waste of everyones time....
And I know it's not 2 russian dudes. I know what the project is.
btw I was modding oblivion and morrowind myself.... I know how to use the editor.
So why do you feel compelled to disrespect a project in which thousands of unpaid man-hours have been poured into?
 
Does the world revolve around you?

No, but every thread he posts in must revolve around him.

The rofif rofif experience:

- enter thread about PC gaming
- post outlandish inflammatory and/ or aggresively dumb comment
- people give him what he wants and argue with him
- he will start talk about PCgamingwiki and go through his entire routine
- people call him an idiot
- he calls us all pricks for giving him what he wants in this situation he creates for himself over and over


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You didn't until you got called out. Now you're doubling down on being ridiculous. Carry on.
Oh, I looked it up before your little comment, genius. I was already aware of the project before this thread.

You're acting like you caught me slipping, but all you did was expose how desperate you are to defend mediocrity

And you know what? I looked it up again, laughed, and moved on, until you decided to crawl back with this weak attempt at a gotcha. Fanmade trash is fanmade trash, no matter how much lipstick you smear on it. If that stings, maybe you're too attached to mediocrity. So yeah, I'll carry on, right past your delusion.
 
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Jesus christ, some absolute tools in this thread.

Please don't come crying back to Skyblivion if this remake isn't up to scratch.
 
to defend mediocrity
Guy's!!!!! Someone got an exclusive build and played it earlier!!
You are not the center of the world, calling this mediocre or trash... It's because of people like you and Rofif that we can't have nice things.
 
So why do you feel compelled to disrespect a project in which thousands of unpaid man-hours have been poured into?
I am not disrespecting anyone.
If it's not work, it's not unpaid man hours. It's a hobby and nobody is forcing people to contribute.

No, but every thread he posts in must revolve around him.

The rofif rofif experience:

- enter thread about PC gaming
- post outlandish inflammatory and/ or aggresively dumb comment
- people give him what he wants and argue with him
- he will start talk about PCgamingwiki and go through his entire routine
- people call him an idiot
- he calls us all pricks for giving him what he wants in this situation he creates for himself over and over


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Whatever you think is true.
You don't like me and my opinions so this means I am anti pc gaming.
The game is a game. it's also on consoles. nothing about oblivion makes it exclusively pc gaming thread. Modding is a separate thing
I put hundreds of hours into oblivion on pc...... and modded it. Have you ever opened the editor?
 
Oh, I looked it up before your little comment, genius. I was already aware of the project before this thread.
lmao, no you didn't.
You're acting like you caught me slipping, but all you did was expose how desperate you are to defend mediocrity
Thousand of man-hours spent redoing every asset in a huge open world games using an updated engine is mediocrity?
And you know what? I looked it up again, laughed, and moved on, until you decided to crawl back with this weak attempt at a gotcha. Fanmade trash is fanmade trash, no matter how much lipstick you smear on it. If that stings, maybe you're too attached to mediocrity. So yeah, I'll carry on, right past your delusion.
Nah, you just looked it up now, realized you were wrong, but like any good internet contrarian, you pretend it's trash instead of admitting that a project of such size and scope undertaken by the community is practically unprecedented. Like I said, carry on. You've got nothing of value to add to this thread.
 
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No, but every thread he posts in must revolve around him.

The rofif rofif experience:

- enter thread about PC gaming
- post outlandish inflammatory and/ or aggresively dumb comment
- people give him what he wants and argue with him
- he will start talk about PCgamingwiki and go through his entire routine
- people call him an idiot
- he calls us all pricks for giving him what he wants in this situation he creates for himself over and over


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Jesus Christ, do you get off being such an insufferable fucking tool all the time?



Varporware? It wouldn't be so infuriating if you weren't out there acting like a complete moron over a fanmade project people aren't getting paid for.


I want both versions.

Why more flavors would be a bad thing. FFS, throwing modders work of passion under the bus like Rofif just did, boils my fucking blood. I'll not say what I think because I would be banned.

I still bet that Skyblivion will be beloved more than the remaster in the end. Working on a passionate project like this for over a decade, making sure every little details are respected, takes a huge amount of time. I think a shake and bake Oblivion to UE5 is... to be seen but I don't think they'll be in the same levels of quality.
 
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No, but every thread he posts in must revolve around him.

The rofif rofif experience:

- enter thread about PC gaming
- post outlandish inflammatory and/ or aggresively dumb comment
- people give him what he wants and argue with him
- he will start talk about PCgamingwiki and go through his entire routine
- people call him an idiot
- he calls us all pricks for giving him what he wants in this situation he creates for himself over and over


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Looks like HRK69 HRK69 has joined him. They're multiplying.

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lmao, no you didn't.
First it's "you didn't look it up", now it's "you looked it up but you're pretending". Pick a lane, champ.

And really, how would you even know what I've looked up or when? You out here acting like you've got admin access to my browser history. Lmfao

Nah, you just looked it up now, realized you were wrong, but like any good internet contrarian, you pretend it's trash instead of admitting that a project of such size and scope undertaken by the community is practically unprecedented. Like I said, carry on. You've got nothing of value to add to this thread.
You're throwing around words like "unprecedented" as if that magically makes the final product any less mid.

Thousands of hours of work doesn't mean quality, it just means someone had a lot of time and a dream. I don't owe praise just because a fan project exists. I was aware of its existence, I looked it up again, I saw what it was, and my opinion still stands. It's dressed up mediocrity, and if your ego can't handle that, that's on you

That "he just looked it up" line is the only thing you've got, and you're milking it like it's some kind of slam dunk. Spoiler: it's not

The fact you're this pressed over someone not clapping for your favorite project just proves how deep your emotional attachment runs. You're not defending quality. You're defending your ego.

So yeah, I'll carry on. You? You can keep circlejerking over textures.
 
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Jesus Christ, do you get off being such an insufferable fucking tool all the time?



Varporware? It wouldn't be so infuriating if you weren't out there acting like a complete moron over a fanmade project people aren't getting paid for.


then bethesda will cancel it.
I don't see a world in which a fan remake can be released alongside real remake

No, but every thread he posts in must revolve around him.

The rofif rofif experience:

- enter thread about PC gaming
- post outlandish inflammatory and/ or aggresively dumb comment
- people give him what he wants and argue with him
- he will start talk about PCgamingwiki and go through his entire routine
- people call him an idiot
- he calls us all pricks for giving him what he wants in this situation he creates for himself over and over


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bro was so certain about his contrarian statements that he had to look it up three times just to be sure
I just had to double check the comedy of people hyping up a glorified mod like it's divine revelation. Looked it up the first time, rolled my eyes. Looked it up again after the noise, still mid. Third time? Just wanted to confirm y'all were still coping this hard.
 
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I just had to double check the comedy of people hyping up a glorified mod like it's divine revelation. Looked it up the first time, rolled my eyes. Looked it up again after the noise, still mid. Third time? Just wanted to confirm y'all were still coping this hard.
>Made himself look like a tool
>Video of the project, explaining how every cell, every object, animation, and blades of grass have been remade using an updated version of the engine
>lmao, glorified texture mod

Some people on the internet just can't help themselves. They just like being clowns.

Funny you talk about ego when your has been so bruised up you resort to downplaying the efforts and work that have gone into the game. Just because you couldn't be bothered looking it up and got called out for it.
 
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I just had to double check the comedy of people hyping up a glorified mod like it's divine revelation. Looked it up the first time, rolled my eyes. Looked it up again after the noise, still mid. Third time? Just wanted to confirm y'all were still coping this hard.

So, just to clarify, you're not a fan of mods now?
 
Well 2 is better than 1, let's see which one is better, if Skyblivion turns out as well made as Fallout London, then hopefully there will be 2 good version's
 
I wouldnt be surprised if the one from Virtuos, a studio known by shitty remasters such as Return to Arkham and Final Fantasy X turns out to be the worst one.
 
>Made himself look like a tool
>Video of the project, explaining how every cell, every object, animation, and blades of grass have been remade using an updated version of the engine
>lmao, glorified texture mod

Some people on the internet just can't help themselves. They just like being clowns.

Funny you talk about ego when your has been so bruised up you resort to downplaying the efforts and work that have gone into the game. Just because you couldn't be bothered looking it up and got called out for it.
The fact that you keep focusing on my 'not looking it up' like that's the crux of the argument just shows you have no real response. I was aware of the project, your need to keep repeating this is just a poor attempt to mask the fact that you're trying to defend something that's, well, still mid

Your insistence on this 'you didn't look it up' narrative is just an excuse to deflect from the fact that you have nothing substantial to defend it with

And I love the classic 'clown' comment because you think I didn't look it up or wasn't aware of it. Newsflash: I've been well aware of this project, and it's still just a glorified texture mod no matter how many times you say otherwise
 
So, just to clarify, you're not a fan of mods now?
I'm not a fan of fanmade overhauls like this. In general, they tend to fall flat. It's like watching a fanmade film, sure, there's effort, but it never quite hits the mark or lives up to the original vision. It always feels like something's missing, and you can tell it's just a pale imitation of the real thing

And that's basically it. This is also how I feel about this mod.

But no, I can't say it's bad! Because apparently, I wasn't aware of this mod before this thread got made!
 
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The fact that you keep focusing on my 'not looking it up' like that's the crux of the argument just shows you have no real response. I was aware of the project, your need to keep repeating this is just a poor attempt to mask the fact that you're trying to defend something that's, well, still mid
I'm not focusing only on that. I explained exactly why your comment was nonsense in more than one way.
Your insistence on this 'you didn't look it up' narrative is just an excuse to deflect from the fact that you have nothing substantial to defend it with
And my insistence on calling out your bullshit over it being a texture mod despite animations, meshes, skeletons, and every asset being redone isn't substantial? Calling it a glorified texture mod when the entire game has been redone is not only wrong, but aggressively stupid. You don't like it, we get it. No need to bullshit about it. The funniest thing is you compared it unfavorably to this upcoming remake which is reportedly done on UE5 and this never bodes well, especially since Virtuos has never done anything worthy of praise. Then again, I don't think you know what anything of what I named is besides textures, so pardon me for overestimating your knowledge.

I'm not a fan of fanmade overhauls like this.
Can you point to other fanmade overhauls like this you didn't like?
 
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I'm not a fan of fanmade overhauls like this. In general, they tend to fall flat. It's like watching a fanmade film, sure, there's effort, but it never quite hits the mark or lives up to the original vision. It always feels like something's missing, and you can tell it's just a pale imitation of the real thing

And that's basically it. This is also how I feel about this mod.

But no, I can't say it's bad! Because apparently, I wasn't aware of this mod before this thread got made!

Fanmade overhauls are literally just a collection of mods created, curated and released (in a single package) by a single team.

It makes no sense to feel so strongly about something like this in a negative sense.
 
skyblivion team?
the 2 russian dudes from discord who have never seen each other?

You just missed the mark by about 35x. (And i know that they are pretty restrictive in accepting volunteers)

Keep it going and you may work in the financial market pretty soon.


Their team is probably bigger than 70% of the indie market.
 
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I'm not a fan of fanmade overhauls like this. In general, they tend to fall flat. It's like watching a fanmade film, sure, there's effort, but it never quite hits the mark or lives up to the original vision. It always feels like something's missing, and you can tell it's just a pale imitation of the real thing

And that's basically it. This is also how I feel about this mod.

But no, I can't say it's bad! Because apparently, I wasn't aware of this mod before this thread got made!
I think you are often right.

Fallout London is a huge exception though.

It's a full blown Fallout game, it rivals New Vegas for me for the best one.
 
I'm not focusing only on that. I explained exactly why your comment was nonsense in more than one way.

And my insistence on calling out your bullshit over it being a texture mod despite animations, meshes, skeletons, and every asset being redone isn't substantial? Calling it a glorified texture mod when the entire game has been redone is not only wrong, but aggressively stupid. You don't like it, we get it. No need to bullshit about it. The funniest thing is you compared it unfavorably to this upcoming remake which is reportedly done on UE5 and this never bodes well, especially since Virtuos has never done anything worthy of praise. Then again, I don't think you know what anything of what I named is besides textures, so pardon me for overestimating your knowledge.
it's an overhaul, not a rebuild, and certainly not some divine revelation like you're trying to spin it. You're getting caught up in the technical details to distract from the bigger picture, which is that it's still just a fan project with too much hype

And as for comparing it unfavorably to the upcoming UE5 remake? Yeah, I did, because I have actual faith that it will push the boundaries of the original in a way this project doesn't

Maybe you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about here, acting like I don't understand basic game development because I'm not impressed by what's essentially a high effort mod. And sorry, but I'll take the upcoming official remake over fan love any day of the fucking week

Fanmade overhauls are literally just a collection of mods created, curated and released (in a single package) by a single team.

It makes no sense to feel so strongly about something like this in a negative sense.

They're passion projects, sure, but that doesn't automatically make them good. Some people get swept up in the novelty of it being fanmade, like that alone is enough to elevate it, but for me? It just doesn't land, and I'm not going to pretend it does just to fit the circlejerk. Not everything needs to be revered just because it took effort
 
They're passion projects, sure, but that doesn't automatically make them good. Some people get swept up in the novelty of it being fanmade, like that alone is enough to elevate it, but for me? It just doesn't land, and I'm not going to pretend it does just to fit the circlejerk. Not everything needs to be revered just because it took effort

There are plenty of overhauls and mods that have fallen flat on their faces over the years. But what you're doing here makes zero sense when we haven't had the opportunity to sample Skyblivion or the remake first hand (if anything, we've actually seen more of Skyblivion).

So at this stage you have no idea whether or not it will "land".
 
it's an overhaul, not a rebuild,
Everything has been redone from scratch for a newer iteration of the engine. Every cell has been painstakingly revisited and everything redone. It's very much a rebuild. Now you see why I say you didn't look it up? If you had, you would know this.

What is Skyblivion?
Skyblivion is a fan-made remake of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion as a modification for its successor, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

https://skyblivion.com/about/

It ticks all the box of a remake. You trying to downplay it as simply an overhaul proves you're arguing in bad faith.
 
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It comes down to Chinese efficiency versus herding autistic hobbyists over Discord. It's no wonder Bethesda managed to shit the remake out in a fraction of the time.
 
And as for comparing it unfavorably to the upcoming UE5 remake? Yeah, I did, because I have actual faith that it will push the boundaries of the original in a way this project doesn't.
As far as I'm aware we don't have any confirmation that the remake is making gameplay changes. Having UE5 sit on top of Gamebryo implies it will just be like the Halo remasters.
 
There are plenty of overhauls and mods that have fallen flat on their faces over the years. But what you're doing here makes zero sense when we haven't had the opportunity to sample Skyblivion or the remake first hand (if anything, we've actually seen more of Skyblivion).

So at this stage you have no idea whether or not it will "land".
The fact that it's fanmade usually tells me everything I need to know.

But hey, I'm always open to being proven wrong. Just not holding my breath
Everything has been redone from scratch for a newer iteration of the engine. Every cell has been painstakingly revisited and everything redone. It's very much a rebuild. Now you see why I say you didn't look it up? If you had, you would know this.



https://skyblivion.com/about/

It ticks all the box of a remake. You trying to downplay it as simply an overhaul proves you're arguing in bad faith.
You call it a remake. Bethesda would call it a mod. I call it what it is: a high effort fan mod that reimagines an old game using the bones of another. It can be impressive, but trying to push this as something more is nonsense

And 'm not downplaying the work. I'm calling out the overhype. Big difference
 
You call it a remake. Bethesda would call it a mod. I call it what it is: a high effort fan mod that reimagines an old game using the bones of another. It can be impressive, but trying to push this as something more is nonsense

And 'm not downplaying the work. I'm calling out the overhype. Big difference
It's a remake and fits the definition of a remake. There's no argument there. Stop this shit.
 
The fact that it's fanmade usually tells me everything I need to know.

How?

I've seen you glaze about mods on this very forum on many occasions, particularly so when you want to take it upon yourself to channel your inner Alex Battaglia. Are those mods you've referred to in those contexts not also fanmade?
 
The availability of mods is a huge W for Skyblivion. I'm not sure what the appetite will be for Creation Engine modders switching over to UE5. That will hold it back a lot in terms of long term appeal in my opinion.
 
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it's an overhaul, not a rebuild, and certainly not some divine revelation like you're trying to spin it. You're getting caught up in the technical details to distract from the bigger picture, which is that it's still just a fan project with too much hype
It's absolutely not just an overhaul, wth??

And as for comparing it unfavorably to the upcoming UE5 remake? Yeah, I did, because I have actual faith that it will push the boundaries of the original in a way this project doesn't

Maybe you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about here, acting like I don't understand basic game development because I'm not impressed by what's essentially a high effort mod. And sorry, but I'll take the upcoming official remake over fan love any day of the fucking week
So you played the UE5 remake already? How do you know Bethesda won't shit the bed? Good thing is we have both the official remake and Skyblivion! But calling the mod trash or whatever is stupid. You can still play the original Oblivion, and you can ignore Skyblivion. It's not complicated.

They're passion projects, sure, but that doesn't automatically make them good. Some people get swept up in the novelty of it being fanmade, like that alone is enough to elevate it, but for me? It just doesn't land, and I'm not going to pretend it does just to fit the circlejerk. Not everything needs to be revered just because it took effort
That doesn't make them shit either, man. I don't know why you hate these kinds of projects but it's weird. By the way, you're overlooking stuff like... what's it called... oh yeah! Counter fuckin' Strike. And as I said (and which you conveniently ignored), CS started as a mod and inspired many games you've probably played and enjoyed.

Mods like this also help people learn and hone their skills. And even get recruited into studios. That already happened with... oh what?! Bethesda and Fallout London!

And 'm not downplaying the work. I'm calling out the overhype. Big difference
Why does it bother you that we are enthusiastic about both?
 
I think you are often right.

Fallout London is a huge exception though.

It's a full blown Fallout game, it rivals New Vegas for me for the best one.

There's plenty

Enderal
The nameless mod for deus ex
Black Mesa
Anomaly, misery, Dead air, Call of chernobyl (Stalker)
Entropy : Zero 1 & 2
Falcon BMS
RallySimFans for Richard's burn rally
FS2 for Freespace 2
AM2R metroid 2
GZDoom, hello??
The Dark mod for Thief 1 & 2 in Doom 3
The black parade mod for Thief
Vampire bloodline actually making it playable. Same for KOTOR 2.

Without even going into the mods that became sensations like Counter-strike, Team fortress, DOTA, DayZ etc.

Shitting on modders is probably the lowest form of "look how edgy I am" I've ever seen on this forum.
 
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How?

I've seen you glaze about mods on this very forum on many occasions, particularly so when you want to take it upon yourself to channel your inner Alex Battaglia. Are those mods you've referred to in those contexts not also fanmade?
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I think you might be confusing me with someone else.

Do I use mods? Yes.
Do I use overhauls? Hell no
 
The availability of mods is a huge W for Skyblivion. I'm not sure what the appetite will be for Creation Engine modders switching over to UE5. That will hold it back a lot in terms of long term appeal in my opinion.

I'm more worried with the appetite of Bethesda in giving up control of its UE5 creation than the appetite of the modders.

There's plenty

Enderal
The nameless mod for deus ex
Black Mesa
Anomaly, misery, Dead air, Call of chernobyl (Stalker)
Entropy : Zero 1 & 2
Falcon BMS
RallySimFans for Richard's burn rally
FS2 for Freespace 2
AM2R metroid 2
GZDoom, hello??
The Dark mod for Thief 1 & 2 in Doom 3
The black parade mod for Thief
Vampire bloodline actually making it playable. Same for KOTOR 2.

Without even going into the mods that became sensations like Counter-strike, Team fortress, DOTA, DayZ etc.

Shitting on modders is probably the lowest form of "look how edgy I am" I've ever seen on this forum.

It's downright stupidity or ignorance. Falcon BMS is something that can even surpass a multi thousand dollar game like DCS in its niche. You get a full fledge, almost "study level" F-16 simulator + a dynamic campaign simulator (something that developer abandoned) for ZERO.

Adding to your list,
These are the ones that i consider the right way to play many of these games. It surpasses the original product by a huge margin (or total conversion/completely different games):

Without even thinking too much:
MechWarrior: Living Legends
Roguetech - Battletech
Project Reality - Battlefield 2 and 3
Long War - Xcom 2
Stalker innumerous mods like Anomaly, Gamma, Lost Alpha etc.
Darth mod and innumerous others for Total War series
The game of thrones conversion for Crusader Kings 2-3
Movies Duel 2 - Jedi Academy
Yet Another MechLab - Mechwarrior 5
Antistasi, Altis life, RHS etc etc etc - Arma 3 (Arma community basically creates entire new GTA games just with a map editor and a bunch of LUA scripts. No wonder why Bohemia usually launch a game like Reforger just for the modders get ready for Arma 4)
GTA RP - GTA5
The entire Euro truck simulator community

Without even counting innumerous games that were born from mods (CS, Dota, DayZ, PUBG, Insurgency etc.) or mods that are the size, and better than, an official DLC (Fallskar, Elsweir, Beyond Skyrim etc)
 
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Enderal was good as well, But Fallout New California The Frontier didn't actually set the world on fire, so it can be hit or miss to be fair.
 
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It's absolutely not just an overhaul, wth??
That's the part that aggravates me in this whole discussion. Never did I say anywhere you have to like it or be impressed by it, but the amount of ignorance being peddled is just irritating. "Two Russian dudes on Discord," "It's just an overhaul, not a rebuild," and other such nonsense. There's no excuse to be this ignorant about a topic you invest yourself in in the age we're in.
 
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For me, this was just a reskin, nothing too major. Definitely not a complete overhaul or a remake

Guess I got cooked there. Yeah, I modded the game before, but that doesn't mean I'm about full overhauls now
 
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There's plenty

Enderal
The nameless mod for deus ex
Black Mesa
Anomaly, misery, Dead air, Call of chernobyl (Stalker)
Entropy : Zero 1 & 2
Falcon BMS
RallySimFans for Richard's burn rally
FS2 for Freespace 2
AM2R metroid 2
GZDoom, hello??
The Dark mod for Thief 1 & 2 in Doom 3
Vampire bloodline actually making it playable. Same for KOTOR 2.

Without even going into the mods that became sensations like Counter-strike, Team fortress, DOTA, DayZ etc.

Shitting on modders is probably the lowest form of "look how edgy I am" I've ever seen on this forum.
I hate what gaming has become. Grown up people acting like children and shitting on the work some passionate fans are doing because they LOVE a franchise.

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But this is just a reskin imo
Oh no no no, don't edit that my friend, assume what you said.

Anyway, thing is every sentence you said would have been far better received with better wording (fanmade trash, really man??), and a simple "in my opinion" or "in my experience". You'd still be wrong but at least you wouldn't have come across as an asshole.
 
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For me, this was just a reskin, nothing too major. Definitely not a complete overhaul or a remake

So by "reskin" you mean "fanmade trash" right?

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P.S. Even that Pokemon mod you also referred to was also called an overhaul (prior to being deleted by Nintendo):

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