I have a job thank you. I was at E3 too, lots of "we can't talk about that yet". Microsoft is a mess.
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Major Nelson's Twitter Update
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Because that is what the higher ups told them to say, what are you not getting?
Anyhoo just realized who I am quoting, when MS is concerned there is really no point in pretending to have a debate with you. You are very vocal about your hatred with anything to do with the company
I said good day!
Gorechylde
Member
It's funny how many apologists are in this thread. Defending Major Nelson using his ONLINE PERSONA is laughable. You want to see the real "Major Nelson"? Go watch Angry Joe's interview and see how "Major" acts when he has to respond in real time without the benefit of proofreading his responses. The man was, and most likely still is, an arrogant douche. You NEVER take something out of someone's hand. EVER. That is so disrespectful.
As someone above already said, bad business is hard to defend. If you have to instruct your PR to LIE TO PEOPLE'S FACES, your stance is already invalid...
As someone above already said, bad business is hard to defend. If you have to instruct your PR to LIE TO PEOPLE'S FACES, your stance is already invalid...
I don't give a shit about Major Nelson, I was just explaining his role as a puppet...
But I have also never seen the label "apologist" thrown around this site so many times as the last few weeks
Care to define it?
I agree Nelson was a dick in that interview, but Joe is intolerable. Seriously. I don't think I could talk to that guy for more than 5 minutes.
Captain Tuttle
Member
That sucks, I like the guy. PR people have it tough
FunkyPajamas
Member
You never go full PR.
You mean swallow a mouthpiece's BS at face-value? No thanks.
He is not an embarrassment to them, he did exactly as they told him.
They are the ones who spun story after story and then told their people to sell their stories.
He is just the kind of scumbag who enjoys what he does, and enjoys the nerd celebrity status that it gives him and definitely enjoys the money it gives and has no problem lying to your face because at the end of the day you are nothing but a sale to him though scores of people think that he is there buddy online.
As for "be nice he is just a PR person", there are plenty of PR people for the various companies who do not come off as smug asshats.
crazepharmacist
Member
An apologist is a person who argues in favor of something unpopular. I had to look it up to first time I heard it here
So you don't expect someone to be on the defensive and try to maintain control when being interview by an internet loudmouth whose schtick is to rant and be antagonistic? If that guy attacked him and ripped him to shreds in that interview, the internet would love it. Gimme a break. The guy's in PR, his company makes a game console you don't like and has to support the company line. I guess that makes him an evil human being right? Man, people need to have some perspective here. It's a good thing every company is good and pure so people with jobs can sleep at night.
Thank you
So you agree that Microsoft is a mess and everyone who pushed that anti-consumer bs shouldn't have. Ok.Because that is what the higher ups told them to say, what are you not getting?
Anyhoo just realized who I am quoting, when MS is concerned there is really no point in pretending to have a debate with you. You are very vocal about your hatred with anything to do with the company
I said good day!
The scope of what I wrote was in regards to Major Nelson's role at MS..period
Stop being a caricature, I'm not interested in derailing the thread for your console fanboy shit. A year from now I will own them all as per usual and currently have a PS4 coming day 1
I said good day!
An apologist is a person who argues in favor of something unpopular. I had to look it up to first time I heard it here
thanks, that is actually not as insulting as I though. I've had LIVE and now have PS+ so am totally an apologist
QuicheFontaine
Member
Yellowflashdude
Member
Thats pretty effed up. He seems like a nice guy.
dark_prinny
Banned
Saving Private Nelson?
PrivateWHudson
Member
I don't see why he gets a pass. If it's his job to regurgitate the bullshit, than it's just as much his job to take the heat for said bullshit.
jim2point0
Banned
He's terrible at doing interviews. He' knows it. He admits it. But he goes to E3 because his fans want him to go there and ask questions. So he takes questions from his fans on a piece of paper, tracks people down, and asks them questions.
His main purpose is always going to be creating youtube videos. And occasionally he actually does decent interviews but if he couldn't do them anymore, I doubt he'd be too upset. I think the fact that he actually got an interview with Major Nelson is rather impressive... and I imagine Joe was pretty nervous about that the whole time.
If you really want to see something cringeworthy, go watch him fanboying all over Man of Steel
robertsan21
Member
dont give this man a pass, he is lying and being an ass. Hope heads will roll at MS for doing such an awful job
The MS hate at this forum can get quite extreme sometimes. I absolutely hated what MS was doing with the Xbone and especially the way they were communicating what they were trying to do. They handled it entirely wrong in so many ways that I've questioned WTF they were doing countless times. However I don't think this should fall on people like Larry, who can only do an say what he's told. Don Mattrick and Steven Ballmer should be held accountable for these stupid decisions.
I also understand that Larry was on the short side in that Angry Joe interview. Considering how people were raging at him on twitter, and I'm sure in person at E3, there's a chance he could have just not been in the right state of mind during that interview. Joe did admit he caught him off guard.
People here need to stop looking into PR too much or getting too involved in this petty console war.
I also understand that Larry was on the short side in that Angry Joe interview. Considering how people were raging at him on twitter, and I'm sure in person at E3, there's a chance he could have just not been in the right state of mind during that interview. Joe did admit he caught him off guard.
People here need to stop looking into PR too much or getting too involved in this petty console war.
Alx
Member
Eh, just observing the fact. If they could have kept at least part of the system that they obviously thought was a good idea and cost them a lot of money, why didn't they do it ?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Ditto. He was a smug asshole in the Angry Joe interview, spewing bullshit, evading questions and acting like an arrogant dick. The best parts: where he claims his DRM isn't bad it's "ALL GREAT STUFF", "Xbox 1 is the future! Do you want to be part of the future?!", and when he took the mic from Joe. LOL, fuck off douchebag.
LMAO
NoirVisage
Banned
Fox Mulder
Member
I've only been here a few years and have seen Sony and Nintendo get plenty of hate for things as well. MS took the popular Xbox brand and shit the bed with horrible policies and baffling messaging, it's their fault.
Major Nelson is a professional PR rep for a giant corporation, he's not in a wrong state of mind or off guard for these kinds of interviews, especially against a nervous and unqualified youtube personality. There was just no way to spin the bullshit enough, so they came off like assholes speaking to us like idiot children. I was genuinely shocked how they couldn't even stay on their course for more than a week after E3 before retreating.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Flipping switches could be referred to an audio term because he does record the Xbox podcast.
I don't think he even has a soul. Who does this unless if you're part of the Truman Show?
Although I do agree he shouldn't get a pass for the Angry Joe interview, in the couple of times I've met Major Nelson he is really a nice guy. I've met him at PAX East 2 or 3 times and every time he has been attentive, nice, and willing to talk. For a PR guy I like that he actually plays games and has personality, even if he can be a bit too zany. My opinion of him is probably bias though seeing I have listened to his podcast for a couple years.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Saving Private Nelson?
lmao
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
No he doesn't. Christ.
Messofanego
Banned
For a few frames near the end, you can see his actual emotion buried inside. "Oh god, what am I even saying?"
No. Because if he was, he would roam Internet forums calling people dicks.
Yeah thats what really annoyed me, I personally find that more insulting than the grabbing the mike thing. The fake smile. I hate people who pull shit like that. I get that Major Nelson works in PR and maybe thats some sort of requisite, some technique to assure the other person, but fake smiles are a pet peeve of mine.