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BALTIMORE - A man who was loaded into a Baltimore police van for transport to a police station, then needed an ambulance, has died a week after he was injured, city and hospital officials said Sunday.

Freddie Gray died Sunday, said Karen Lancaster, a spokeswoman for the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center.

Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake and the police commissioner planned an early afternoon news conference to discuss the case.

Gray died a week after his arrest. According to a timeline police released Thursday, officers stopped Gray at 8:39 a.m. on April 12, and he then tried to run away. They caught him one minute later and arrested him, and he was placed in the prisoner transport wagon at 8:54 a.m., bound for the Western District station. At 9:24 a.m., an ambulance was called to the station to treat Gray.

Gray's family told CBS Baltimore his voice box was partially crushed, and three bones in his neck were broken. Gray, 25, of Baltimore, was in critical condition throughout the week.

He declined to give details about Gray's injuries. Rodriguez and other Baltimore officials have also so far refused to say why the man was stopped in the first place, reports CBS News correspondent Mark Albert.

He has not been charged with a crime.

"What we know today is that the officers apprehended an individual," Rodriguez said, "and at the end of that encounter the individual was suffering from a medical injury."

Rest of the article here: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/freddie-gray-dies-one-week-after-violent-baltimore-police-encounter/

Videos of encounter(volume warning):
https://youtu.be/OcnmtH88zXs

 

[NegroNinja]

There was actually a protest about this earlier in the week. The police in Baltimore especially the MTA police are a bunch of pricks.

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

The Western, you say?

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Those times are suspect. 1 minute chase, 15 minutes to be put in a car, 40 minutes for an ambulance.

Two scenarios most likely: tackled badly and his neck got crushed from it or the police did something very shady. With those time stamps I'm more leaning towards the latter.

 

[J10]

Why anyone would join the police force and expect to be viewed as a trustworthy human being is totally beyond my comprehension.

 

[jett]

I'm not sure if there are any words left to describe the US police force.

 

[Rembrandt]

Why anyone would join the police force and expect to be viewed as a trustworthy human being is totally beyond my comprehension.

looking at the poster above your post, we're about to have a repeat of the conversation in the other thread, lol.

 

[J10]

looking at the poster above your post, we're about to have a repeat of the conversation in the other thread, lol.

I give the same amount of fucks in this thread as the other one.

 

[shira]

What we know today is that the officers apprehended an individual, and at the end of that encounter the individual was suffering from a medical injury.

weebay.gif

WTF is this shit - did they just yada-yada'd the cops injuring him

 

[Subpar Spatula]

looking at the poster above your post, we're about to have a repeat of the conversation in the other thread, lol.

I acknowledge the police story seems farce. Are you really going to try and call me out in each thread?

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

Why anyone would join the police force and expect to be viewed as a trustworthy human being is totally beyond my comprehension.

Agreed. You know the organization is viewed as a racist joke, so anyone who decides to stay on or join in my eyes pretty much agrees with their modus operandi.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

I acknowledge the police story seems farce. Are you really going to try and call me out in each thread?

When you continue to ignore context and see things for how they are, then yes, you should expect it in every thread.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

When you continue to ignore context and see things for how they are, then yes, you should expect it in every thread.

If you have any qualms with me you're free to PM me. I'll happily engage you there but if you're going to follow me around in a bitter manner trying to call me out then please don't engage me. You're not doing anything but being an annoyance when that happens.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Unrelated, obviously. Must have had prior health issues.

Spoiler

not serious

 

[Volimar]

It's crazy how little information they've released. The media should be all over them for stonewalling.

 

[Kettch]

Can't really say much about this with so little actual information, except that I can't help but shake my head at yet another PR mouthpiece doing some verbal gymnastics to avoid saying that the police did anything:

"and at the end of that encounter the individual was suffering from a medical injury."

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

If you have any qualms with me you're free to PM me. I'll happily engage you there but if you're going to follow me around in a bitter manner trying to call me out then please don't engage me. You're not doing anything but being an annoyance when that happens.

Actually, I'll do what I damn well please, which is if you come into a topic being wrong, I'll be there to show you exactly how. No one's bitter at you, in fact, I deal with people like you all the time, and I correct them when they are wrong too.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Actually, I'll do what I damn well please, which is if you come into a topic being wrong, I'll be there to show you exactly how. No one's bitter at you, in fact, I deal with people like you all the time, and I correct them when they are wrong too.

Wow.

I just... wow.

Are you for real?

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

Wow.

I just... wow.

Are you for real?

As real as the information me and others have been trying to impart to you. The fact that you think you can tell me to come into a thread, see you posting something wrong, and then NOT correct you, its like....lol bro.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

Oh, we all know why he was stopped.

There really are not many words left to describe situations like these...

...because his father smelled of elderberries?

 

[Subpar Spatula]

As real as the information me and others have been trying to impart to you. The fact that you think you can tell me to come into a thread, see you posting something wrong, and then NOT correct you, its like....lol bro.

At least keep the conversation in the other thread. If you can't even be that respectful then yeah, why even have a discussion? You can see my first post in this thread. If you have an issue with that one then discuss that. You're just being petty when you say things like this.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Tried to find anything in the article to justify them crushing his throat, couldnt

Hope they don't decided to go with "he tripped during the chase and slammed his throat into the curb" or something equally suspect

 

[GQman2121]

They very clearly whipped his ass in the wagon and are now buying time to come up with a reason for 1.) why he was stopped in the first place, and 2.) why they had to whip his ass.

This is no different than the man who was shot in the back two weeks ago, so hopefully more attention given on a national stage. There's enough video there to present a compelling story to a larger audience.

At least keep the conversation in the other thread. If you can't even be that respectful then yeah, why even have a discussion? You can see my first post in this thread. If you have an issue with that one then discuss that. You're just being petty when you say things like this.

If only someone came up with a way where we could delete people--ignore if you will--online so that we didn't have to read such things that we didn't agree with. That would be something.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

At least keep the conversation in the other thread. If you can't even be that respectful then yeah, why even have a discussion? You can see my first post in this thread. If you have an issue with that one then discuss that. You're just being petty when you say things like this.

You can't even respect the agency of black people to be upset at the police, not trust them on sight due to overwhelming evidence they don't see us as human, and not want to have to then educate them on something as basic as "skin color doesn't make you subhuman." But you want to speak about respect.

But you want to talk about your post, so lets talk about your first post. Why are you even giving the police story even a little bit of credence? Why is it deserved?

 

[Subpar Spatula]

If only someone came up with a way where we could delete people--ignore if you will--online so that we didn't have to read such things that we didn't agree with. That would be something.

It's not that I don't agree, it's a discussion. He hasn't responded to my post in the other thread but wants to call me out here? It's just petty. That's why I asked that he can continue it in PMs or in that thread. Dragging it into other threads is just petty.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Baltimore Sun has this line:

According to a police timeline he was fine when he was loaded into a van to be taken to the district station, but was injured by the time he got out. He suffered a broken vertebra and an injured voice box, his family said.

It's insane that the police remains so hush with this kind of insanity. Do they expect us to shrug shoulders about how weird it is that a man could nearly sever his own spine?

 

[Easy_D]

So uh. Cops stop guy. Guy runs.
They catch him, stuff him in a van and violently assault him so he has to spend a week in a hospital only to die?

And he's not charged of any crime whatsoever.

Did I get it? Holy mother of fuck, your police is rotten to the fucking core. The amount of good cops don't mean shit in the face of travesties like this.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

But you want to talk about your post, so lets talk about your first post. Why are you even giving the police story even a little bit of credence? Why is it deserved?

I give it some credence because I'm not 100% certain of what may have happened. At this point we have very little evidence of what caused the damages. I lean more towards police abuse due to the time stamps and lack of police response on the issue.

 

[esms]

If you have any qualms with me you're free to PM me. I'll happily engage you there but if you're going to follow me around in a bitter manner trying to call me out then please don't engage me. You're not doing anything but being an annoyance when that happens.

The irony.

 

[werks]

There needs to be some sort of reform at the federal level to deal with police brutality. The whole we will investigate our own isn't obviously cutting it.

Something along the lines of the NTSB that investigates accidents. An independent federal agency with no ties to the local police that investigates all excessive force cases.

 

[Aurongel]

Is there any full video of this anywhere?

EDIT: Didn't watch long enough, apologies.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Baltimore Sun has this line:



It's insane that the police remains so hush with this kind of insanity. Do they expect us to shrug shoulders about how weird it is that a man could nearly sever his own spine?

I'm actually really surprised that they haven't talked about his past yet. Usually they want to get that character assassination in at the same time to justify their actions

 

[AxelFoley]

I acknowledge the police story seems farce. Are you really going to try and call me out in each thread?

If need be. You tend to give the police the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Rembrandt]

Baltimore Sun has this line:



It's insane that the police remains so hush with this kind of insanity. Do they expect us to shrug shoulders about how weird it is that a man could nearly sever his own spine?

I hope this blows up. They really need to be held accountable and questioned profusely about this.

Ouch. Yep. Most likely police brutality.

still the chance he did it himself or the van hit too many potholes, huh?

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Baltimore Sun has this line:



It's insane that the police remains so hush with this kind of insanity. Do they expect us to shrug shoulders about how weird it is that a man could nearly sever his own spine?

Ouch. Yep. Most likely police brutality.

still the chance he did it himself or the van hit too many potholes, huh?

There's a very real possibility something else transpired. Given on what is known it's most likely police the brutalized him. There could be an outlier reason as for how his injuries came about but I'm putting my chips with police brutality.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

There needs to be some sort of reform at the federal level to deal with police brutality. The whole we will investigate our own isn't obviously cutting it.

We'll just end up with another DOJ report like Ferguson where its glaringly obvious, and yet nothing will be done, just talk of nebulous "reforms" that will occur "sometime in the future". As much as I would like a public accountability board, I know the cops will fight tooth and nail to prevent it from happening, and will even go as far as risking public safety to prove a point.

 

[entremet]

What a suspect story.

Sounds like the chopped his throat during the his arrest.

 

[AxelFoley]

There needs to be some sort of reform at the federal level to deal with police brutality. The whole we will investigate our own isn't obviously cutting it.

Something along the lines of the NTSB that investigates accidents. An independent federal agency with no ties to the local police that investigates all excessive force cases.

Co-sign.

 

[ArchedThunder]

When you continue to ignore context and see things for how they are, then yes, you should expect it in every thread.

You realize he agrees with you that this is a case of police brutality, correct? You are literally arguing with no one.

 

[werks]

We'll just end up with another DOJ report like Ferguson where its glaringly obvious, and yet nothing will be done, just talk of nebulous "reforms" that will occur "sometime in the future". As much as I would like a public accountability board, I know the cops will fight tooth and nail to prevent it from happening, and will even go as far as risking public safety to prove a point.

I'm not talking about a DOJ investigation style affair that only happens if there is enough media involve. A federal agency that investigates all police actions after certain criterias are met is needed at this point to get local police in line, that and maybe a mandatory PCS move within the state after X amount of years to make sure officers don't get entrenched in powerful positions is needed to destroy the blue wall of silence.

Yes the cops will fight tooth and nail, but it needs to be done.

 

[JJD]

Actually, I'll do what I damn well please, which is if you come into a topic being wrong, I'll be there to show you exactly how. No one's bitter at you, in fact, I deal with people like you all the time, and I correct them when they are wrong too.

Lol I'm laughing loud as I read this post.

Were's my Neil deGrasse Tyson gif when I need it...

On the topic at hand it's obvious the cops fucked up as usual. Poor guy killed for no reason at all. I hope someone pays for it.

Edit: Damn I just saw the video. WTF is wrong with some people? How can you beat someone so badly for no reason at all?

 

[PopeReal]

It is amazing that they refuse to release any information (until they figure out what their story is) yet most Americans give them the benefit of the doubt every time.

I wish that same benefit of doubt would be shown to their fellow citizens.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

Lol I'm laughing loud as I read this post.

Were's my Neil deGrasse Tyson gif when I need it...

That would be funny if I a) claimed to be a badass, and b) if I was concerned about anyone on the internet even thinking of trying me.

It is amazing that they refuse to release any information (until they figure out what their story is) yet most Americans give them the benefit of the doubt every time.

I wish that same benefit of doubt would be shown to their fellow citizens.

If only. People get arrested and have their names and faces blasted all over the media and presented as if their guilt is a matter of fact.

 

[Rembrandt]

Ouch. Yep. Most likely police brutality.



There's a very real possibility something else transpired. Given on what is known it's most likely police the brutalized him. There could be an outlier reason as for how his injuries came about but I'm putting my chips with police brutality.

I would love to know the other very real possibilities.

 

[RefigeKru]

Um.

Isn't it entirely feasible that they'll just conjour up some post-mortem charges since he won't be able to contest them. Garnish the corpse with some crack, etc.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

I would love to know the other very real possibilities.

tripped and fell.

 

[Script Kiddies LLC]

Um.

Isn't it entirely feasible that they'll just conjour up some post-mortem charges since he won't be able to contest them. Garnish the corpse with some crack, etc.

Sprinkle some crack on em Johnson!

tripped and fell.

...and landed on a nightstick neck and back first multiple times.

 

[Aselith]

Oh, we all know why he was stopped.

There really are not many words left to describe situations like these...

Those broken taillights'll get you everytime

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I would love to know the other very real possibilities.

Really? Are we really play this game that you dislike me so much even though I agree 99% this is police brutality I still have some other agenda?

 

[Jonm1010]

I really hope some politician has the balls to take up mandatory police cameras as a matter of national policy soon. Every police department should have them. it isn't a panacea to dealing with all the rampant institutional problems in far too many police departments in this country but it is a positive step in the right direction IMO.

Something that could shed light and leave very little doubt to what happened in that van.

Making a potential charge more likely - even if the institutional issues suggest that with full evidence there is no guarantee charges will come or stick.