Man facing life in prison for some pot brownies???
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The Technomancer
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Even if he did have a pound of weed, so fucking what? Goddamn our priorities are fucked when this is the kind of stuff that gets life in prison.
OriginalNameGuy
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Our priorities are fucked when this gets you any kind of jail time. I could live with them dishing out fines, but putting people in jail over some weed is insane.
The hash oil used in the brownies are the primary reason he is getting these severe charges. I think you need to read the article again.
Fuckin' waaah!
Here's an idea, don't break the law and you won't get arrested.
And this guy isn't some recreational user that got busted, he's a dealer and got caught with a pound of the shit. Yeah, yeah, people shouldn't go to jail for pot, but guess what?...it's the law and regardless of how stupid the law is, people are taking that risk and get to deal with the consequences. You don't just get to pick and choose what laws you follow because you don't like them. Like someone said earlier, this idiot could have moved 30 miles down the road and been legal, it's own fault for getting caught. It's pretty simple, there are now places in this country where it's legal...go there, wait until it's legal where you are, or don't get caught.
AllIsOneIsNone
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Man, I'm about to give up on this country. What happens when weed becomes legalized in 10 years? Do they just say "sorry, you can go now, we realized what you were selling didn't really hurt anyone".
He was already looking at up to 2 years for the weed and up to 20 years for almost ANY amount of oil (4 grams or more), plus up to 99 years for the manufacture of even 4 grams of oil. So the outrage at the way the products were weighed is silly.
Whether he manufactured 4 grams or 400 grams the potential penalty is the same.Yes, 1.5 lbs. shifts it to a possibility of life, but 4 grams could still get him a total sentence of something like 120 years.
Keru_Shiri
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Gotta keep those prisons full, amirite?
Misterinenja
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He knew the law and still chose to commit the crime.
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Ah but it's a silly law...
CadetMahoney
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The U.S. needs the prison industrial complex to be full. The war on drugs helps with that. States give in to privatization of a prison system to a corporation, the fine print in the contract DEMANDS that a percentage of beds have to be filled OR the STATE pays a penalty. /tinfoil
kurisu_1974
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You sound like my friend that lives in Dubai. If laws are arbitrary and based on lies and nonsense, then breaking them should be perfectly acceptable.
Dude Abides
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Yeah, if you like weed, best to stay out of Texas.
Mammoth Jones
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Oh the horror. Pot brownies...think of all the damage that causes our society
So Bernie Madoff shouldn't be spending the rest of his life in a jail cell?
Your right, but drug dealers do cause damage to society, and it's kind of clear he was one.
If it weren't Texas, I'd say there's no way he's going to get anywhere near that harsh of a sentence, but...
Dark Octave
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Why would anyone with an ounce of common sense allow...no, even think to go through with a ruling like this?
Trickster
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Well that's not really true. You can commit a non violent crime, and still have a big negative effect.
Walmart (for example) is also a drug dealer.
The difference being harder drugs and legality.
edit: I'm only referring to the "cause damage to society" part.
Assuming Marijuana was fully legal in Texas, it would still have to be taxed and QA'd before it could be sold. Anything you buy at Walmart would be sold like this. In addition, if you are buying anything that can be abused (like Nyquil), they will scan your license.
Drug Dealers don't do any of that. If this headline was "Man guilty of Tax Evasion facing 5 years to life in prision", would you be as outraged?
There hasn't been a ruling. Prosecutors are trying to charge him with it, but the case hasn't gone to court yet. It's likely he'll plea down, although not very far down, as he was looking at multiple felony counts before you include the pot brownies.
Depends. If he can, he should pay his taxes plus (heavy?) interest back.
If he can't, well then maybe throw him into prison.
I agree with your point of Q&A though. At least you can be sure the alcohol is not methanol and doesn't make you go blind. :lol
Can't be causing more damage than all the doctors over prescribing pain medication to Americans. Of course drug dealers cause damage to society but you can't apply that wholesale to a guy selling pot brownies.
I would argue we do more damage to society arresting people over minor drug possession and sale (mostly referring to marijuana) and convicting them as if they were violent criminals.
Random Painted HIghway
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There is a penalty range from 5-99 for first degree felonies in texas. That doesn't mean anyone is actually asking for that. It does make for a clickable headline and thread and lol texas posts. Rather than set more specific penalties for specific crimes, the texas legislature allows the jurisdiction latitude to sentence according to the jurisdiction's values and according to the specific nature of the crime and the defendant. People in Williamson county are going to be well aware of what happens to folks who break the law up there. Google ken Anderson and Michael Morton to see what goes on with the locals there, though most of those folks have been run out of power now. The pot brownie is an interesting buzz line for this article but unless this guy goes to trial and it gets appealed, it won't be resolved by the courts. Expect a plea in this case to probation assuming he doesn't have a criminal history and doesn't piss of the judge or prosecutors.
benjipwns
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Who is society?
Rest of his life isn't really much of a penalty in any case. Jail time and restitution (to the fullest extent possible) to the victims is more justice than him spending his last 20 years in prison.
Dealing pot brownies and weed is not causing any damage to society. It's helping people enjoy a movie or concert on a saturday night.
benjipwns
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Yeah, but what if "society" doesn't want them to enjoy that?
The Lamonster
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$30k to incarcerate this guy per year.
Whoever would rather sit through cirque du soleil or bb king show sober is obviously an idiot. Cirque du soleil don't even make any kind of sense when you sober.
Stannis Baratheon
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Don't u make this about me, baby
Nose Master
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Random logistical question but: if somehow they legalize marijuana use in the US, what happens to people serving time for "felonies" committed while it was still illegal? They don't get shown the door, I imagine.
The overturning of a law does not exonerate the people who were convicted of breaking the law when it was in effect.
heliosRAzi
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Fuuuuuck, that's Williamson County. He's fucked. Should've been in Travis County.
MemoryHumanity
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Erm, a lot of them?
Anyway, this is seriously fucked up.
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