Man loses hands AND feet to a pack of pit bulls
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I took my kids to go to the park yesterday and some dude had his two pitbulls running around with no leashes on. It wouldn't have bothered me as much had the guy not been just talking on the phone while "playing" with his dogs. He would just throw some toy then walk off chit chatting on his phone.
We were outside the fence and walked to the other end of the park, about a football field away. His white dog just started wandering off, while the dude and the other dog were still on the other side of the public park restroom. His white dog had the entire park to itself, just wandering around, no leash. There is no way I am going in that park with two pitbulls off their leash.
Many things kept me from going in the park while that guy and his dogs were there. I don't know the guy or how well he has trained his dogs. Idk if his dogs are aggressive or how they would react to children. His dogs are off their leash and the dude isn't really paying attention, so I waited for the guy to leave, which wasn't long because the school that is close by came to use half the park and he had to leave.
The park is also clearly marked no dogs allowed, but I see dogs there all the time. I've never seen the no dogs thing enforced. I can't fault the guy for using the field that so many others use with their dogs, even though it is marked.
Pitbulls are dangerous. Their capabilities make them dangerous. Whether they are inherently aggressive is something to be argued, but not really the most important thing. They are a dog that is capable of hurting people, so when they have an owner who is not up to training them correctly they become really dangerous.
So you have good dog owners that know to train the dog and provide the environment that a dog needs, the city probably not the best for dogs that need space to run and play. Then you have the shitty dog owners that can get away with being shitty with smaller dogs, but become a danger to the public when they have larger dogs. Then you have the people like pitbulls because of their persona of being dangerous and intimidating. It's that persona that kind of creates more bad dog owners because they only get the dog because they want it to be intimidating.
It's early and idk where I was going with this. My neighbor has a Pitbull that seems okay. I see him let him out in the park at night. He's a guard dog, but doesn't seem all that mean.
Pitbulls may be fine with a good environment and owner, but there are a lot if people unfit to own dangerous animals.
We were outside the fence and walked to the other end of the park, about a football field away. His white dog just started wandering off, while the dude and the other dog were still on the other side of the public park restroom. His white dog had the entire park to itself, just wandering around, no leash. There is no way I am going in that park with two pitbulls off their leash.
Many things kept me from going in the park while that guy and his dogs were there. I don't know the guy or how well he has trained his dogs. Idk if his dogs are aggressive or how they would react to children. His dogs are off their leash and the dude isn't really paying attention, so I waited for the guy to leave, which wasn't long because the school that is close by came to use half the park and he had to leave.
The park is also clearly marked no dogs allowed, but I see dogs there all the time. I've never seen the no dogs thing enforced. I can't fault the guy for using the field that so many others use with their dogs, even though it is marked.
Pitbulls are dangerous. Their capabilities make them dangerous. Whether they are inherently aggressive is something to be argued, but not really the most important thing. They are a dog that is capable of hurting people, so when they have an owner who is not up to training them correctly they become really dangerous.
So you have good dog owners that know to train the dog and provide the environment that a dog needs, the city probably not the best for dogs that need space to run and play. Then you have the shitty dog owners that can get away with being shitty with smaller dogs, but become a danger to the public when they have larger dogs. Then you have the people like pitbulls because of their persona of being dangerous and intimidating. It's that persona that kind of creates more bad dog owners because they only get the dog because they want it to be intimidating.
It's early and idk where I was going with this. My neighbor has a Pitbull that seems okay. I see him let him out in the park at night. He's a guard dog, but doesn't seem all that mean.
Pitbulls may be fine with a good environment and owner, but there are a lot if people unfit to own dangerous animals.
I'm shaking my head...
Winterfang
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I disagree, as someone that dislikes Dogs in general, specially Pit bulls. I think they are the are some of the few actually good looking ones.
Jfc, any dog has the ability to kill and maim. Pit bulls have a target on their back and that's why they're so predominantly reported. Ironically, pit bulls are the most misidentified as well, and I see that was already covered, good.
Agreed. Pit bulls are very loyal, affectionate and friendly pets. The negative stereotypes surrounding them is depressing. I lost my baby girl last year and she was a pit bull. Sweetest pet I've ever had and never bit anyone. She was neutered and trained so that's worth mentioning too.
Can't believe the hate. Fear is one thing, I'm afraid of any dog that isn't my own, but come on, calling for termination of the breed is heartless and excessive.
chalkitdown1
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Did you just refer to your dog as your baby girl?
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I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I probably called my dog that nearly as much as her given name. Not uncommon.
They can be an aesthetically pleasing breed
Though obviously whether you like any breed is a matter of individual taste.
Right. I have never owned a pit bull, nor do I have any plans to; I've only had personal experience with other peoples' pit bulls at the veterinary clinic where I worked in high school, and the dog daycare I worked at part of the time I was in college. One of the pit bulls that came to daycare spent most of his first few days ignoring the other dogs in lieu of following me everywhere I went, and jumping into my lap whenever I sat down.
I can understand the trepidation some people have given both their reputation and negative experiences like being chased or dealing with loose and aggressive pit bulls owned by irresponsible neighbors. I understand personally not liking the breed because of those things. But I don't get the insistence that the breed needs to be terminated. It's plainly an emotional reaction to bad experiences or sensational anecdotes, because a more than cursory examination of the issue of breed specific legislation reveals that no credible experts or dog advocacy organizations believe that those laws are necessary or worthwhile.
And I think that there's this complete disconnect to the idea that for many owners, these are family pets. They aren't just guard dogs, or menaces to the community, or ticking time bombs; they're members of peoples' families that they might have owned for two or five or ten years. How would they feel if their golden retriever was taken from them and put down? Their dachshund? Their schnauzer? Their rottie? I can't understand the callousness behind insisting that other people's pets be put down based upon your ignorance.
Though obviously whether you like any breed is a matter of individual taste.
Right. I have never owned a pit bull, nor do I have any plans to; I've only had personal experience with other peoples' pit bulls at the veterinary clinic where I worked in high school, and the dog daycare I worked at part of the time I was in college. One of the pit bulls that came to daycare spent most of his first few days ignoring the other dogs in lieu of following me everywhere I went, and jumping into my lap whenever I sat down.
I can understand the trepidation some people have given both their reputation and negative experiences like being chased or dealing with loose and aggressive pit bulls owned by irresponsible neighbors. I understand personally not liking the breed because of those things. But I don't get the insistence that the breed needs to be terminated. It's plainly an emotional reaction to bad experiences or sensational anecdotes, because a more than cursory examination of the issue of breed specific legislation reveals that no credible experts or dog advocacy organizations believe that those laws are necessary or worthwhile.
And I think that there's this complete disconnect to the idea that for many owners, these are family pets. They aren't just guard dogs, or menaces to the community, or ticking time bombs; they're members of peoples' families that they might have owned for two or five or ten years. How would they feel if their golden retriever was taken from them and put down? Their dachshund? Their schnauzer? Their rottie? I can't understand the callousness behind insisting that other people's pets be put down based upon your ignorance.
This post is awesome. The mass euthanasia of Pitbull's as a breed opinion really bothers me. The UKC considers them one of the best dog breeds, they are like an extremely powerful and hard to use Sports car. In the hands of the right owner, they have amazing potential, but if an incompetent, irresponsible owner gets a hold of them, watch out. Pitbulls are a great breed, they reflect their owners about as well as any other breed could. Which is why their actions should be tied to their owners as much as it is to the dog.
All the doubters and haters in this thread need to have some real interaction with a well raised and properly trained Pitbull, you'll learn that is one of the best breeds of Dogs for human companionship. I've never loved a dog, like I have loved a Pitbull.
Alternate headline
Infant consumed by Golden Retriever.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...gs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711
ChawlieTheFair
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Some dogs can be scary. What can you do when somthing like that attacks you ? It will crush your hands like its nothing. Hope I never will be in such a situation.
But damn if I don't wanna cuddle that thing. Cute but also intimidating, I like it.
Which is awesome about the Pitbull breed, if you treat it right and love the dog, it will show you compassion and loyalty that almost no other dog has the ability to show. It's hardwired to absolutely love its caretaker.
That dog is massive.Some dogs can be scary. What can you do when somthing like that attacks you ? It will crush your hands like its nothing. Hope I never will be in such a situation.
We have two pits, I think they're "Blue Nose" but I'm not sure. The female is tiny, especially compared to that one.
No not really. They can be super gorgeous.
That is a beautiful animal.
Pit Bulls are quite beautiful, and I like the breed but I hate people that cut their ears like that.
Most people who do that to their dogs are growing then to be aggressive.
I have no doubt a dumbass like that guy is roiding his poor dog. Never seen a pit bull that big.
Damnit, pit bull lovers ITT don't even know what pit bulls look like? The dog in the gif is an American Bully, and it is fucking hideous. It looks like the dog monster from John Carter.
John Carter is too shitty of a movie to be a valid reference, but ya I know the difference, I prefer Pitbull Terrier breeds, less lazy than Bullies.
We wanna share stories? My baby niece had her face torn open by something that looked a hell of a lot like a pit and who's owners regarded it as a pit. I might have missed where anyone demanded the termination of the breed, but I don't believe they should be available as pets without condition when the owners are so reliably idiotic. Same shit with guns. I'm sure your dog was lovely and trained. Trouble is, just as many aren't, and there's no qualification to owning one.
There's been a couple references to eliminating the breed in this thread. I definitely agree that the more potentially dangerous breeds need to have some sort of training and certification for ownership, same with guns. I posted in favor of both essentially, there are just too many idiots out there, and it is too easy to own potentially life threatening things such as guns, dogs, cars, etc. Not enough ownership accountability and vetting in general, which was the main cause for this specific mishap, dude shouldn't have had 13 dogs in the first place.
In the right hands though, the breed is amazing and definitely worth keeping around.
People shouldn't own these kinds of animals in residential neighborhoods. Just like it is frowned upon to own other kinds of animals capable of killing, maiming, and tearing off limbs of healthy, fully capable human adults.
A chimpanzee may be a lovable pet to you, but the potential risk of danger should be too much for society to allow for pet owners.
One word, LEASH.
You leash your dog, I'll leash mine, and everything will be fine.
I've read too many stories of some dog off leash going after a Pitbull (or any large breed) that was on leash, then getting fucked up and most likely dead because it picked on the wrong dog. Then guess what, the large dog, especially if it is a Pitbull, gets blamed and put down. Why? Because your, tiny, yappy, undisciplined dog was off leash and acting like an asshole, reflecting its owner of course.
I don't own a dog.
Children shouldn't have to be afraid to go in public parks because someone decided to take an animal with tremendous killing and maiming potential. Everyone else shouldn't have to live their life around the people who bring unpredictable, violent dogs into the park.
I don't think I should be able to bring a chimpanzee into the park, because it's sweet to me and my children. Everyone thinks their animal is "sweet and cute." I always hear people say "he wouldn't harm a fly."
I don't think people should be able to hold large, killing animals as pets. There should at least be qualifications, licenses, and guidelines/laws that need to be followed to own and train breeds with the potential to kill fully-grown human males.
At some point, the freedom of owning a cute-and-lovable beast should be weighed against the potential for others to sustain life-altering injuries. I don't think just anyone should be able to own these animals.
Another Pit bull thread full of misinformation, generalizations and ignorance!
Beautiful dog. It blows my mind people call that ugly.
Yeah these pit bulls were just minding their own business when some crazy guy decided to feed them his hands and feet.
Damn
. How did he not wake up from that?!?Hmmm it's not like there was 13 dogs clearly mistreated or anything! Nope. Let's blame the breed.
blainethemono
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I have honestly never met anyone like this in real life. I take my dog to the park every day and I only ever meet people who say she's pretty and want to pet her. She loves people and is incredibly gentle around small children, and pretty much any time i've had an encounter like this they've been perfectly okay with their child interacting with my dog. I can't remember a single time anyone has avoided walking closely past us or anything like that.
Two days ago we walked past a crowd of kids loading into a bus and a few of them just told me they liked my dog and asked if they could pet her. None of them seemed to be afraid of her, and she loved the attention. But then again I actually gave a shit about training her and socializing her with children and other animals from when she was 8 weeks old.
It doesn't matter whose to blame. It matters what can be done to stop it. Can't ban crappy people.
Except it does matter. We ban one breed, the media will focus on another.
German shepherds were considered the worst breed and then suddenly it's Pit bull? Next to focus on is Rottweilers, then Dobermans, Chow Chow's and then basically every large breed.
You can make it harder for crappy people to own dogs. But apparently it's too hard, and most would rather just eliminate the breed. Easier to kill dogs than hold the humans that own them accountable, that says a lot about humans imo.
Every breed which has the potential to do this should be restricted.
That's pretty much every large breed and many medium sized ones.
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So golden retrievers and all labs too then, right?
I've been stalked by a huge pitbull X cross before up a side alley and I remember wishing Australia had permits to carry Magnum 45's in the street. The dog was waist high at the shoulder with a massive head and snapped at my hand a few times. I only survived by backing the last 100 metres down the road and keeping eye contact. I'm not small but it would've ripped me to pieces. The dog was also obviously starving and abandoned by the look of it. I tend to find the worst of these animals are the crosses where you combine the size and ferocity of a few breeds with a shitty owner.
Most of these dogs are classed as restricted dog breeds here.
http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/FORRESIDENTS/PETS/Pages/Dangerousdogs.aspx
Most of these dogs are classed as restricted dog breeds here.
http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/FORRESIDENTS/PETS/Pages/Dangerousdogs.aspx
Icyflamez96
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I think most pits are ugly, and I get extremely paranoid walking in the presence of others.
But I own one and she's nice AF and fairly cute.
I don't know too much about dogs, but what I do know it that certain dogs were selectively bred by man to serve different purposes. I don't know why some pit pull defenders act like it's ridiculous to think that some breeds could have more impulsive/dangerous tendencies than others.
But I own one and she's nice AF and fairly cute.
I don't know too much about dogs, but what I do know it that certain dogs were selectively bred by man to serve different purposes. I don't know why some pit pull defenders act like it's ridiculous to think that some breeds could have more impulsive/dangerous tendencies than others.
That's basically every dog over 25 lbs.
If you broaden it out to 'potential to kill a human being' that is every dog on the planet, as even chihuahuas and pomeranians have even been known to kill infants.
I can't believe everyone jumped straight to the breed specific stuff, ignoring that there were fucking 13 dogs in a house in a residential neighborhood. If that was not already illegal, that should be where you start, because not only is that almost certainly an illegal breeding operation for fight dogs, it is unfair to keep animals in those kinds of conditions even if they are legitimately pets.
Yeah and all it costs is some people getting mauled. No big deal.
Honest question, have you ever seen first hand what happens when an American Pit Bull snaps? I wonder the same of everyone that voraciously defends them.
I have, and it was awful. It was a well looked after dog too, the owners had cared for all manner of dogs. Then one summer, it just snapped. Killed two other dogs before it was put down. It just tore them to pieces. It was only lucky timing with a sliding glass door that stopped it getting to humans.
Thank fuck we banned the breed a short while later (here in the UK). We've lost nothing as a result.
What does this mean, was it the first time it was introduced to these dogs, or its owners? Was it on a leash when it was being introduced? The "it just snapped" comment is ignorance, we don't know what led to its behavior, lets kill it and remove it from our existence.
blainethemono
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People in the UK have had their dogs confiscated from them on the street to be put down and not because they actually did anything wrong or showed any signs of aggression
Can't even begin to comprehend how anyone can be okay with that. That's somebody's pet. If you think animal control should be allowed to come take my dog away from me like that, despite the fact she's never hurt any other animal or human, based purely on how she looks, that just disgusts me.
What's even worse is that my american bulldog isn't even a pit bull terrier, but since it's one of a dozen plus breeds that constantly get thrown under that umbrella, something like this could happen as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2014
Look at how many pitbulls there are responsible for Fatal Attacks. Fuck Pit Bulls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2014
Look at how many pitbulls there are responsible for Fatal Attacks. Fuck Pit Bulls.
Wolf Akela
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Bad owners, but really can't deny it's part of the temperament of the dog. If it was 13 samoyeds you'll probably just die from all the cuddliness. I think pitbulls should only be for more responsible and experienced owners. I mean yeah sure any dog can be raised to be violent, but it's much much harder for it to happen to certain friendlier breeds.
In a way, the stigma surrounding the breed might be a good thing for them. Less first time dog owners picking up pits specially for their kids or something.
In a way, the stigma surrounding the breed might be a good thing for them. Less first time dog owners picking up pits specially for their kids or something.
foreal. so many pit bull attacks and yet people will defend the fuck out of those crazy ass dogs. and it's always the same thing you hear "but MINE is the nicest dog i know!"
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