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Zoramon089
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The only time I've seen is done well was in FLCL. You don't know how many times I had watched it before realizing his nickname was Ta and they were saying Ta-kun
Infinite Justice
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Hmm Magi seems to be moving at a nice pace so i may join you guys/gals soon.
If you feel particularly adventurous you can see how she's gonna wear them in the cover Survivor put in the OP
I had to stop at around chapter 5 before I raged too much. Not good for my blood pressure.
I will continue reading tonight since I'm in a good mood.
Really? Isn't chapter 5 the one where Alibaba introduces dungeons? That's what really got interested in the series.
Uh, I guess it's better than Beelzebub but no way should it be above Biscuit Hammer or Solanin in the backlog train.
Dungeons were alright, Alibaba was a crime against humanity.
Aside from Solanin, Magi is considerably better than those series.
Glass Rebel
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I'm gonna start a riot in here
Crash Station
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Buster Keel vol 4
The pacing in this is really friggin good. Conflicts arise and get resolved in 1 or 2 chapters, yet they don't feel rushed at all while still contributing to the overarching plot. Same thing with the battles. In only 4 chapters, there have been 2 really good fights. Keel vs Blue is exactly what a rival battle should be and Keel and Blue vs Gold and Silver had the intensity and tactics of a high tier arc finale.
Seriously guys, jump on the bandwagon. I have no doubt this thread would love it.
The pacing in this is really friggin good. Conflicts arise and get resolved in 1 or 2 chapters, yet they don't feel rushed at all while still contributing to the overarching plot. Same thing with the battles. In only 4 chapters, there have been 2 really good fights. Keel vs Blue is exactly what a rival battle should be and Keel and Blue vs Gold and Silver had the intensity and tactics of a high tier arc finale.
Seriously guys, jump on the bandwagon. I have no doubt this thread would love it.
Good to know you are not that crazy.
You guys need to start bandwagons with completed manga so I can easily join them.
Nope, I am not delving beyond anything besides how you address people in the culture. It's not necessarily just a translation issue but I way to convey plot; very different.
Maybe in the future you'll now be aware and come up on an example. There are PLENTY. And the original work doesn't require you to infer shit so I'm not going to add that on top.
Scy already answered a bit but it is mostly heavy story driven manga. Usually couples go through a phase of changing honorifics and then dropping them. Same with friends, colleagues, and even those who are married.
Bleach examples...sigh.
Capable does not mean necessary. It wasn't part of the original intention in the work so I don't want to deal with it. There is also the idea of further lost information when you have people "joking" about honorifics and such. It happens. Watch the gatari animes (they play honorific games often) if you want. Then there is a "trust" aspect along with possible sarcasm to how they are delivered. If you are fine overwriting all of this with a simple name address requiring inference? Well, that's your take I guess. But I personally try to avoid lost plot elements, misdirection, and divergence from original meaning.
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Senpai/kouhai is a bit different. It's never really a plot element and can be localized just be defaulting to name. But I personally don't mind it staying in cause it is weird in anime when the voice doesn't match the text on subs.
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And I already also said this but it depends on the series. Anybody who cites the big 3 requiring honorifics needs to check them-self at the door.
I don't see why you would think I am, I generally have great taste in manga, I just don't talk about it cause I hate a lot of the debates that go into it. For example I've always considered Berserk to be my favorite manga of all time next to Akira, Oldboy, Nausicaa, and a few others yet just stating those titles will spark debates about their quality that I hate getting into. In my lifetime I've probably read over 100 manga overall.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Shame there are no English equivalents or ways to express familiarity/intimacy right, Gumbi?
Relevant since scanlators seem to think that they're imparting vital information with this crap. Besides, it's just a tiny example of this "lost" information.
No reason this can't be played with in English Mr. Gumbo the 13th.
Buddha 6-12
So much better than the first 5 chapters. Very impressive conclusion to the first volume as well.
I just can't believe how much of a dick that archer was. Such an asshole for tricking Chapra. I really wish a bear would eat him.
The ending was so sad with Chapra and his mother
To this day I will never understand the dumb idea of a caste system.
So much better than the first 5 chapters. Very impressive conclusion to the first volume as well.
I just can't believe how much of a dick that archer was. Such an asshole for tricking Chapra. I really wish a bear would eat him.
The ending was so sad with Chapra and his mother
To this day I will never understand the dumb idea of a caste system.the_log_ride
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I think we should start calling each other kisama and bakayarou. We'd be like a real delinquent family.
Magi 80:
Overkill/showing off = Calling out 8 generals when only one is needed. At least we have a good "darker complexion" character now to water down my complaints from earlier in the week.
The scanlators of Magi are just playing catch up right now since the Japanese releases are at chapter 124 and they seem to be releasing chapters every two days, so that's why the pace seems so good.
Overkill/showing off = Calling out 8 generals when only one is needed. At least we have a good "darker complexion" character now to water down my complaints from earlier in the week.
The scanlators of Magi are just playing catch up right now since the Japanese releases are at chapter 124 and they seem to be releasing chapters every two days, so that's why the pace seems so good.
gundamkyoukai
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I don't mind when they translate honorifics or leave them out most of the time.
What i can't stand is when people call each other by there last names but people put there first name instead .
I see this happen so many times and then later on it had some effect on the story .
The best translators are the ones that translate in the context of the story .
What i can't stand is when people call each other by there last names but people put there first name instead .
I see this happen so many times and then later on it had some effect on the story .
The best translators are the ones that translate in the context of the story .
Honey and Clover vol 5
Even though I think this manga has a lot of problems with writing and pacing, I can easily forgive all of it cause they do the college life so good. Really enjoy all the jokes about finishing your projects on time, stressing out and chilling out with professors.
Takemoto sure had a lot of angst going on in the first couple chapters of the volume. Can't say I followed it that much but it was still good. I just can't say I feel connected to his problems and he is still a coward for not confessing.
Morita's comeback was masterfully done. He was the missing link in making the jokes perfect. Really missed him and was glad when he came back to school again.
Even though I think this manga has a lot of problems with writing and pacing, I can easily forgive all of it cause they do the college life so good. Really enjoy all the jokes about finishing your projects on time, stressing out and chilling out with professors.
Takemoto sure had a lot of angst going on in the first couple chapters of the volume. Can't say I followed it that much but it was still good. I just can't say I feel connected to his problems and he is still a coward for not confessing.
Morita's comeback was masterfully done. He was the missing link in making the jokes perfect. Really missed him and was glad when he came back to school again.
Crash Station
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Buster Keel vol 5
Seriously, the pacing is great. No wasting time at all. Some foreshadowing over Keel's past and then we learn about it the very next chapter and not several arcs later.
I wish the translators would decide on a name for Ravi/Lavie/Lovey/Lavi.
Seriously, the pacing is great. No wasting time at all. Some foreshadowing over Keel's past and then we learn about it the very next chapter and not several arcs later.
I wish the translators would decide on a name for Ravi/Lavie/Lovey/Lavi.
What, like "What's up bro?" and "Damn you fine?" Most English equivalents in dialogue really don't fit almost all series. The very few that are eligible like Beelzebub are workable. It's funny that only delinquents or yakuza talk with the aggression we do everyday...
Anybody who translates any of the big 3 saying they should keep honorifics is a moron. But story heavy manga is a different manner. But the thing is, that many more mature manga don't even put emphasis on it. So it is sort of the more "anime" type of manga. As I said, watch the gatari series for like the easiest examples. Or any trope show with an ojou asking for the MC to use sama or some shit. Then you have usually innocent romances where it is a huge deal to use first name or drop the honorific.
Again, it would fit very few series without sounding absurd. Like instead of saying "No honorific?" you say "Hey, call me with some respect?" But I don't even know what that means... Or the joke "No honorific?" would be "So casual..." Again though, that just sounds dumb. It isn't like it matters much. Most people don't even read the series where it is important.
And I'm going to stab Beam in the face if it catches on to butcher my user name.
"Hello, Miss Hudson."
"That's Lady Hudson to you."
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"You know Miss Hudson, I've really misjudged you."
"Please, call me Felicity."
The Breaker: New Waves 61-62
Not much happening here, yet; Shioon leading the Shunwoo clan should make for some interesting happening, if not just getting him back to full-power faster. Shi-Ho being revived is complete bullshit though, and will probably be but a device to draw Chun-Woo out, if anything. Let sleeping dogs lie.
Shingeki no Kyojin 31
Ah, DAMN, ANNIE!! This series waxes just enough not to irritate, but flavor. The conversation on 'the relativity of good' was a simple idea, ultimately, but logical, and isn't something I've ever found myself thinking of, so that's pretty cool. Shit's about to get even more real than it has. Mikasa remains the Queen among queens.
Kimi no Knife 37
When good people die. The raw amount of dread present in this series is begining to irritate, given that it's but dressing, and getting no real exploration, but I am interested to see how things play out.
Not much happening here, yet; Shioon leading the Shunwoo clan should make for some interesting happening, if not just getting him back to full-power faster. Shi-Ho being revived is complete bullshit though, and will probably be but a device to draw Chun-Woo out, if anything. Let sleeping dogs lie.
Shingeki no Kyojin 31
Ah, DAMN, ANNIE!! This series waxes just enough not to irritate, but flavor. The conversation on 'the relativity of good' was a simple idea, ultimately, but logical, and isn't something I've ever found myself thinking of, so that's pretty cool. Shit's about to get even more real than it has. Mikasa remains the Queen among queens.
Kimi no Knife 37
When good people die. The raw amount of dread present in this series is begining to irritate, given that it's but dressing, and getting no real exploration, but I am interested to see how things play out.
Nah, what else you got.
Not bad but too situational. Can't be applied to when it also often happens which is a "shift" in greeting. And in order to follow that rule, every character in any manga would have to prefix Miss, Mrs., or Mr unless the plot instructed otherwise.
It's all a cluster-fuck really.
The best kill is the overkill
Korea has honorifics?
Infinite Justice
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I guess thats alright until they are caught up (i wonder how quickly the raws appear)
Don't make me hyung the sama out of your shi.
ColossalLazy
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Korean honorifics are confusing and longer, reading manwhua sometimes is painful because many translation groups leave the names of many things korean.
That's what I said.
I actually understand what japanese honorifics mean so they are just annoying. Korean honorifics confuse the shit out of me.
I remember when I first tried reading The Breaker and one whole word bubble was nothing but untranslated Korean words with translator notes all over the place. It was a combination of that and the shitty main character that got me to drop it.
ColossalLazy
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Yeah, its pretty frustrating. Because of a untranslated word I had to check past chapters to understand whats happening in New Waves.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Vop-Pop was calling me "Fleshmaker." I think you got off light good sirrah.
Hello new manga thread. I recommend that everybody should go read DOROHEDORO right nowz.
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Korean honorifics aren't too hard to understand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_honorifics
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Shingeki no Kyojin 31
Ahh.. kinda had a feeling the female titan would be her. lol.
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Korean honorifics aren't too hard to understand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_honorifics
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Shingeki no Kyojin 31
Ahh.. kinda had a feeling the female titan would be her. lol.
Crash Station
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Buster Keel
All caught up. The villains in this sure are resilient.
All caught up. The villains in this sure are resilient.
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