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Watashi agree desu!
It's not the worst, but it's the most argued for. I don't know why. It's easily replaceable.
Dedication Through Light
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I dont know, at least in the anime I want or some that I read, translating ojou-sama would make it sound less authentic and decrease the significance of the characters role.
Because Kaizoku-Fansubs was lazy, and not wanting to translate Luffy's deceleration of friendship they put a disclaimer saying "NAKAMA IS A MAGICAL WORD THAT MUST NEVER BE TRANSLATED!" a few episodes prior. K-F has their share of problems, like claiming they would quit when consistent DVDs came out, but didn't because "they don't like Luffy's Funimation voice". Uh-huh.
The best part? Funimation has licensed up to Episode 336, way past their current point. Meaning they will soon be obsolete.
While I agree. I do think Aniki/Onii-chan can't be simply replaced. From what I see, it's a really quick way to have insight of the relationship between. It feels odd to ignore this. Though some localizations, mostly in videogames seem to handle this just fine.
gundamkyoukai
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I see we are going threw the translation phase again , people should translation most stuff but sometimes also try and keep it in context for the anime \ manga .
Another manga i have to catch up to and finish read when last arc done .
Another manga i have to catch up to and finish read when last arc done .
gundamkyoukai
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Even professional translation are sometimes wrong , some people just have a better translation style than others .
Fairy Tail 294:
Really disappointing battle, even worse than the Grimoire Heart battles. This was hyped up on the level of Gajeel vs Natsu and instead we get a battle on the lines of Natsu's introduction. Definitely not expecting anything from next week's chapter even with additional power up forms (which Natsu and Gajeel will promptly copy).
Claymore 129:
Nice to see Claire back but her rescue and this chapter in general felt rushed and way too "easy" after all this time (maybe editor pressure, but who knows). Even just a little fight from the monster vs Raki's "tears" would have gone a long way to make her rescue more credible. And the "horror" of the Claymore body was just silly.
Still, the manga going forward will be much better with characters we actually give a damn about back in the story vs the "female expendables".
Really disappointing battle, even worse than the Grimoire Heart battles. This was hyped up on the level of Gajeel vs Natsu and instead we get a battle on the lines of Natsu's introduction. Definitely not expecting anything from next week's chapter even with additional power up forms (which Natsu and Gajeel will promptly copy).
Claymore 129:
Nice to see Claire back but her rescue and this chapter in general felt rushed and way too "easy" after all this time (maybe editor pressure, but who knows). Even just a little fight from the monster vs Raki's "tears" would have gone a long way to make her rescue more credible. And the "horror" of the Claymore body was just silly.
Still, the manga going forward will be much better with characters we actually give a damn about back in the story vs the "female expendables".
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That, or it basically means "close friends." The mere fact it takes a second adjective to convey its meaning does not mean the word should remain untranslated.
(I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but there are people that really do love that fucking word remaining untranslated at all times).
Dedication Through Light
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Its recent usage in fairy tail felt awkward...I hope Kodansha USA doesnt do that when they get to that point.
gundamkyoukai
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Yeah i really expect the horror part to be worst , it just one long scar .
Professional ones in general are pretty good especially when handled by good people
Light novel translations are even worse than the worst of manga translations. Some of that shit gets too unreadable and it's not like there are pictures to make me understand shit better.
Why would one read fantranslated books ?
And yes, when good people translate a manga, you know it.
The french translation of Bobobo... Seriously, I loved it. And then tried to read a fan translated chapter, it was painful.
Glass Rebel
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Close friend!
gundamkyoukai
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I just happy that people take the time to do some , some light novels are really hard to translate like Index , Horizon for eg .
Because sometimes it's the only way to read them in the first place , some of my favorite anime are base on light novels and they never come over in english .
I don't know man, I just wanted to give LNs a try and see what I was missing out on.
Yeah but some of them leave words like "okaa-sama", "buchou", "itadakimasu" and "oneesama" untranslated and it just makes no sense why they would do that
Dedication Through Light
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I guess Another would be my first LN (since its coming over)...I wish the No.6 one would come since its anime was so short.
Are horizon on the middle of nowhere considered, LNs?
Are horizon on the middle of nowhere considered, LNs?
Wisdom.
Probably not but I'm not sure if LN is just a term given to how the book is published or if actual page length plays a role
Glass Rebel
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I'd never finish my manga backlog if I started reading LN as well. And just when I managed to read some stuff during vacation.
Infinite Justice
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Pretty much.
Happened to Haruhi, Shana, etc for a while until they finally got more animated material.
And for some series the light novels/novels are the only thing we have left (Spice and Wolf, Banner of the Stars) but mostly remain untranslated
(though Spice is getting localized albeit very slowly)Agreed.
We are now best friends.
gundamkyoukai
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That is true but for me i have been watching , reading stuff for so long that they get translate automatically in my head and i don't even notice it .
Sometimes when i watch stuff now i can tell when people translate stuff wrong or way out of context which is now annoying .
yes horizon is a LN even thought it is really long compare to others .
And for some series the light novels/novels are the only thing we have left (Spice and Wolf, Banner of the Stars) but mostly remain untranslated
If we were still get fan translation for Spice and Wolf it would have most likely done by now instead we have to wait 4 or 5 years and they might not even finish it
Man i would love a new Banner of the Stars anime , i love that series so much .
Oh, I did get curious and decide to look this up, though:
and I found the explanation "Sentarou decides to call Kaoru "Bon" - which happens to be short for "Bonbon-dono," a Kansai term for a naive man from a wealthy family." So there you go.
Thanks, so "Richie" was an accurate translation.
Infinite Justice
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If we were still get fan translation for Spice and Wolf it would have most likely done by now instead we have to wait 4 or 5 years and they might not even finish it
Man i would love a new Banner of the Stars anime , i love that series so much .
And that's one of my fears with S&W novels but here's to hoping they keep at it till then.
As for Banner i would love one too and it should be a series again so no OVA like the 3rd one. It still pains me to this day that Tokyopop couldn't get the Banner novels translated
And that's one of my fears with S&W novels but here's to hoping they keep at it till then.
As for Banner i would love one too and it should be a series again so no OVA like the 3rd one. It still pains me to this day that Tokyopop couldn't get the Banner novels translated
How many are there, they are coming up on 6. I just wish they had an e-book version.
A Huge Battleship
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Sore wa Totsuzen, Unmei no Aite ga 13
Okay, PSO reference makes me forgive this for being boring these last few chapters.
Okay, PSO reference makes me forgive this for being boring these last few chapters.
Caught up on Again!!--it's a promising manga, and I like the main trio, but I hope the whole cheer-squad arc gets resolved soon and he won't have to stay in the club. That shit is lame and Usami (along with almost everyone involved in that mess) are horrible people.
The art is actually pretty nice, especially for a weekly manga. Looking forward to more.
The art is actually pretty nice, especially for a weekly manga. Looking forward to more.
gundamkyoukai
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They are 17 vols .
Olympos
Read it in one sitting, overall the character art was good but the setting taking place in basically two locations and no real background art other than the miniature garden is disappointing. This coupled along with what is essentially pure dialogue can be very offputting. It was a somewhat intriguing take on Greek Mythology but Greek Mythology is completely overdone. I liked it overall but it can be pretty dull and overall the tone is somewhat hopeless even during the ending.
Read it in one sitting, overall the character art was good but the setting taking place in basically two locations and no real background art other than the miniature garden is disappointing. This coupled along with what is essentially pure dialogue can be very offputting. It was a somewhat intriguing take on Greek Mythology but Greek Mythology is completely overdone. I liked it overall but it can be pretty dull and overall the tone is somewhat hopeless even during the ending.
Even ojou for ojou-sama? See people, this is what happens when you skip panels.
retcon:
PS: Fuck you survivor, I aint no weeaboo.
If you know what they mean, then why do you care?
I'm not defending or endorsing the practice. But some groups tend to translate more to their readers then outside interest. The bigger issue with localization lies elsewhere... There is no reason to not translate these words to English except catering to an audience. That's what they did/do, so you read on or drop.
Everything should be translated into Old English. Except for Old English type characters who should get a salsa treatment.
dakkumauji
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Yureka
Caught up to whatever's out.
Decentish. It is getting too confusing when its dealing with the real world stuff but the fights are least pretty decent. It does get me into MMO mode a little.
Caught up to whatever's out.
Decentish. It is getting too confusing when its dealing with the real world stuff but the fights are least pretty decent. It does get me into MMO mode a little.
Hanamatsuri vol 1 End
The premise of the manga has to be one of the most creative deliberate attempt to be able to draw women, call them guys, and get away with it just cause flowers have to be very pretty. Not that I'm complaining that much since Aki is truly a great artist and I love her character designs. Sure there wasn't that much variations in this manga since most of the flowers were just Fujiwaka clones and the only different flower was the one that had black hair. It also makes me wonder what reading an Aki manga without predominately male cast would feel like. I'd imagine it would be extremely difficult to tell the gender of the characters without being explicitly told about it.
The main theme of the manga was about the relation between different flower masters and their flowers where the only connection between them is that all the flowers come from Haruou's school so him and Fujiwaka show up in every chapter. There was nice variations in each of the stories and they all covered different type of flowers and some of the problems they face with their flower masters. There was Nagayoshi and his quest to get Fujiwaka which ended in failure after he witness Fujiwaka's care for his master Haruou. Oumi's chapter was pretty interesting as it showed that not all flowers are perfect and sometimes it's difficult to live with them, especially when your flower is as clumsy and useless as Inuou. I did have a lot of trouble telling the difference between Inuou and Fujiwaka and was mostly confused as to why Haruou was selling his flower to Oumi. Then I realized they were two different people. The last chapter covered a more interesting relation as it was the only one where the flower, Hanabishi, hated its master, Haruomi.
The manga was really a missed opportunity. The entire concept of flowers was very interesting and there could have been more better ways to explore it such as what happens when your flower master is an asshole, or what happens to flowers when they get old and ugly, but these seem to be more darker themes that this manga wasn't particularly interested in exploring. There was also way too much dialogues that made this a very slow read. Sort of understandable when there are no action scenes but I wish we got more normal panels without having them covered in dialogue panels.
The art is really good and a big step up from her previous manga 3.3.7 Byooshi. It's very similar to her art in Moteki.
Did you like how Olympos' Hades was a cute pretty boy unlike the Western equivalent?
The premise of the manga has to be one of the most creative deliberate attempt to be able to draw women, call them guys, and get away with it just cause flowers have to be very pretty. Not that I'm complaining that much since Aki is truly a great artist and I love her character designs. Sure there wasn't that much variations in this manga since most of the flowers were just Fujiwaka clones and the only different flower was the one that had black hair. It also makes me wonder what reading an Aki manga without predominately male cast would feel like. I'd imagine it would be extremely difficult to tell the gender of the characters without being explicitly told about it.
The main theme of the manga was about the relation between different flower masters and their flowers where the only connection between them is that all the flowers come from Haruou's school so him and Fujiwaka show up in every chapter. There was nice variations in each of the stories and they all covered different type of flowers and some of the problems they face with their flower masters. There was Nagayoshi and his quest to get Fujiwaka which ended in failure after he witness Fujiwaka's care for his master Haruou. Oumi's chapter was pretty interesting as it showed that not all flowers are perfect and sometimes it's difficult to live with them, especially when your flower is as clumsy and useless as Inuou. I did have a lot of trouble telling the difference between Inuou and Fujiwaka and was mostly confused as to why Haruou was selling his flower to Oumi. Then I realized they were two different people. The last chapter covered a more interesting relation as it was the only one where the flower, Hanabishi, hated its master, Haruomi.
The manga was really a missed opportunity. The entire concept of flowers was very interesting and there could have been more better ways to explore it such as what happens when your flower master is an asshole, or what happens to flowers when they get old and ugly, but these seem to be more darker themes that this manga wasn't particularly interested in exploring. There was also way too much dialogues that made this a very slow read. Sort of understandable when there are no action scenes but I wish we got more normal panels without having them covered in dialogue panels.
no u
The art is really good and a big step up from her previous manga 3.3.7 Byooshi. It's very similar to her art in Moteki.
That seems like a common theme in all of her manga
Did you like how Olympos' Hades was a cute pretty boy unlike the Western equivalent?
Crash Station
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Btooom
Taira
Taira
ColossalLazy
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Magi
Prince Zuko brothers looks the snob royalty type.
Zuko lost his arm for good but it seems he will
Alibaba following Sinbad footsteps lol.
Prince Zuko brothers looks the snob royalty type.
Zuko lost his arm for good but it seems he will
get a plant arm
Alibaba following Sinbad footsteps lol.
dakkumauji
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Wa! 01-17
Ah, this is such a funny series. 4-koma style, works really well. I like all the whole love circle going on and great jokes too.
Ah, this is such a funny series. 4-koma style, works really well. I like all the whole love circle going on and great jokes too.
TacticalFox88
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I formally renounce my complaints about the HST being stupid as hell in terms of power levels. I just went old-school again. Some of the manga back in the 90s (Saint Seiya, Tenchi Muyo, Sailor Moon, etc) were absolutely fucking atrocious with the amount of dumb shit. Nostalgia how does it work. :/
ColossalLazy
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Girl of the Wild 51
Dat dirty elbow attack, holy shit.
Jojolion 13
Caught up with it. The Jojo(?) has
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So the GPS is an ally.
Dat dirty elbow attack, holy shit.
Jojolion 13
Caught up with it. The Jojo(?) has
4 testicles lol
So the GPS is an ally.
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