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[P:axMagellanic]

Not my type of game, so I won't comment on that. But the art is absolutely grotesque.

 

[coachmcguirk91]

While I won't link to it, I imagine most players experience will eventually boil down to the same as the guy from Polygon. And it seems this guy Yanes was rotated into all the other squads to help each of them dominate a few games.

I'll link it
https://www.polygon.com/impressions/557178/marathon-preview-impressions-bungie
Polygon absolutely loved it

"What Bungie has always been good at is producing converts: players who see the vision, get pulled inside, and can't wait to share the game with their friends. I find myself an unlikely convert to Marathon's vision, and I left Bellevue desperate to get my hands on the game again — one of the best feelings you can have about something you're playing when on the clock.
There are a million factors that could sink Marathon: the crowded live service market, the game's monetization strategy — all that Bungie has confirmed is that it won't be free-to-play — its release timing, and the state of the global economy. You'd have to be a fool to look at any upcoming game in 2025 and say, "That's a surefire hit." what I can say, without being a fool, is that Marathon made me truly enjoy PvP for the first time in nearly a decade."

And I wouldnt put too much stock into a gaming journalist struggling in lobbies filled with pro gamers and developers

 

[8BiTw0LF]

While I won't link to it, I imagine most players experience will eventually boil down to the same as the guy from Polygon. And it seems this guy Yanes was rotated into all the other squads to help each of them dominate a few games.

This is what I'll aspire to be. A Marathon sherpa

 

[niilokin]

That artstyle looks like everything is put together from lego blocks

 

[cormack12]

I'll link it
https://www.polygon.com/impressions/557178/marathon-preview-impressions-bungie
Polygon absolutely loved it

"What Bungie has always been good at is producing converts: players who see the vision, get pulled inside, and can't wait to share the game with their friends. I find myself an unlikely convert to Marathon's vision, and I left Bellevue desperate to get my hands on the game again — one of the best feelings you can have about something you're playing when on the clock.
There are a million factors that could sink Marathon: the crowded live service market, the game's monetization strategy — all that Bungie has confirmed is that it won't be free-to-play — its release timing, and the state of the global economy. You'd have to be a fool to look at any upcoming game in 2025 and say, "That's a surefire hit." what I can say, without being a fool, is that Marathon made me truly enjoy PvP for the first time in nearly a decade."

And I wouldnt put too much stock into a gaming journalist struggling in lobbies filled with pro gamers and developers

Or being carried by the developer of the game to victory who was clearly there to make sure everyone experienced a positive hour or so.

 

[PendekarRajawali]

Seriously, is this bungie can only do?

 

[Varteras]

Or being carried by the developer of the game to victory who was clearly there to make sure everyone experienced a positive hour or so.

Don't worry, boo. I'll carry you.

 

[cormack12]

Don't worry, boo. I'll carry you.

No way. I'll spawn dead.

 

[Varteras]

No way. I'll spawn dead.

You don't mean that...

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Helldivers 2 is all procedurally generated not canned maps.

It's not about whether they're hand made or not, there's lots of planets with different locations and there's far more you can do than just land on a map and gather resources. There's quite a few ways to do it as well and not just running and shooting using two legs of yours. Idk how ignoring all this makes Marathon bigger tbh, cuz it really doesn't. Is the fact that maps are procedurally generated made the game less fun and have less content? Maps in Returnal is also procedurally generated and it's one of the best PS games ever made. What I'm trying to say here is that your argument about procedural generation is not valid here, like, at all.

Two different types of games, two different approaches to trying to find balance. I would not be surprised if Marathon finds its audience.

I'm not saying it won't, it will. Both games are trying to do a bit different things, yes, one game is way less ambitious, more grounded and relatively simple in concept and what you're actually be doing, the other one on the other hand is way more ambitious in scope, has plenty of varied content and the way you can engage with it as well, that's just a fact ma dude. You can say that well, give it a year or so and they'll add a few maps with seasonal updates along with maybe new weapons and a couple of operators, to which I say, yup, they will, but the scope of everything is not even remotely the same as in HD2.

Like, Idk, maybe you meant something different by saying "bigger", in which case you can elaborate on that, but if not, it's your choice, I'm not here to force you. If anything, I'll just wait and see what happens. Destiny 2 eventually went F2P along with its expansions and at the same time made it a completely pointless endeavour to buy everything at launch and then they took it all away, so I'm sorry, I was wrong, it's a double FU to people who paid and gave them money multiple times.

 

[Vindicator]

Destiny 2 was the first (and only) game i cared about pvp, after years of singleplayer gaming, mostly Souls games, definitely gonna check this out.
Also Bungie could implement some pve events, like Overwatch Halloween Terror.

 

[Kerotan]

The realisator, Alberto Mielgo, is known for the critically acclaimed films "Jibaro" and "The Witness" from the Netflix series "Love, Death & Robots".

Never heard of them but the man has talent. I'm gonna rewatch it with headphones tonight.

 

[Tomeru]

Tvey should've made the game corps Piranah, Assegsi, Icaras, Qirex ans them. Fits the aesthetics like a glove and would give us Wipeout fans some false hope....

 

[Forth]

Honestly, I loved the art style and would have loved to be involved in playing it but PlayStation permanently suspended my account which I've owned since my PS3 days with over seven thousand pounds of digital content for fraud which I have absolutely no idea how and will give me no other reason.
The only thing I did was refund a pre-order of Concord after giving out the extra beta keys on Neogaf.
So fuck Sony for that, I'll never have another Sony owned device or content in my house ever again.

 

[Hideous Snake]

I didn't dig it at first but it grew on me a bit. Art style is a banger and the shooting looks great

Inventory looks good and the loot might turn out good too. After saying nope at first, I will keep a close eye on it now.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Slept on it. Still think it looks great.

Hopefully the maps are bigger than they look.

Yep. The more footage I see the more impressed I am. This will finally get me back into PVP which I've stepped away from for a long time. I was hugely into Halo MP back in the day, and even enjoyed infinite for what it was, but Destiny was obviously not PVP focused and I could never get into crucible. I've never been a fan of CoD style gameplay.

It's great to see Bungie back and focusing on a PVP game, I am loving everything I see about Marathon right now based on the footage and impressions. Glad it's getting a September release. No idea if I'll get into the Alpha, I honestly just want to kind of go in fresh instead so I may not bother signing up.

I think they have a massive hit on their hands and this will be the next big thing in Live Service like Helldivers 2.

This game is clearly not for an everyday gamer. This person spent 5 minutes basically saying the game was too easy and boring and wasn't good until the pvp. Started.

Thats fine but I don't think everyday players are going to go for this game. Let's see if I'm wrong. I was right about concord to a t.

It just looks boring to me but I don't play tarkov. There's too any games and I don't have time to invest in this stuff. This is my problem with Gaas games now. There's too many and I literally have 0 interest or time, unless they did something ground breaking that really creates a buzz.

The game is ABOUT PVP, that's the point. Not sure what you're getting at.

You may have been right about Concord, but you're basically wrong about everything as it relates to Xbox. This game isn't going to be for everyone - I don't know why I need to even say this. No game is for everyone. The potential audience for this game is still enormous. Tons of people love PVP.

I'm convinced gamers have just completely lost the plot.

CoD is too fast.
Marathon is too slow, apparently.
They don't want more Tarkov clones but at the same time they complain about anything new that enters the Extraction space.
They complain this isn't Marathon yet most have never heard of the franchise before let alone played it.

We've known what Marathon 2025 was going to be since its reveal yet now we suddenly get all these indignant grifter posts on twitter and everywhere (Gaf also) lamenting the fact that it's a live service extraction shooter.

I dunno if some of you are just trolling or if you're genuinely off your rockers.

This is becoming a trend of complaining for complaining's sake. We can't let other people enjoy this new game, that does not appeal to you. Other people have to go out of their way to trash on other people for liking these games and hoping Bungie shuts down. Just toxic discourse all around.

Have you considered that people are just genuinely different and have different preferences?

I've expounded on my enthusiasm for multiplayer once or twice (or 500 times) on NeoGAF before. Player choice and playstyle variety are at the top of my values list and are two aspects the Extraction Shooter can really leverage based on its fundamentals as a genre.

I watched the full Marathon show + Riloe, Jessie Kazam, and Dr. Lupos analysis videos afterwards.

I could not tell you what shells anyone was playing because the shell abilities look so generic / unimpactful. All the clips look like you just have to run around, slide, and DPS better than your opponents.

I could not tell you a single interesting objective in the game. It looks mostly like button presses, kill the AI, and king of the hill type countdown objectives. Stuff we've seen for 20+ years at this point.

I could not tell you a single time I saw a combat scenario and my brain lit up with "Oh, I would have approached that way differently".

That's generic AF.

I've played a years worth of The Finals so the fast paced, short ranged, high TTK gameplay looked extremely "been there, done that."

Instead of calling someone a troll for having a different perspective as you, perhaps consider that I'm simply a GAAS sommelier?

I considered that, but then realized everything you were saying indicates you aren't paying close attention. Like literally everything you have said is incorrect regarding your complaints about the game. I listed each one based on all the footage. And even now you are saying you can't tell the difference between shells - what? They are extremely obvious. They all look radically different, and all the abilities are much different. EVERYONE that has played it is saying that. But someone to your eye you can't see it.

That's why you're being called out. You're not saying things that make any lick of sense and do not jive with either footage or the impressions from people that have played it.

 

[clarky]

Yep. The more footage I see the more impressed I am. This will finally get me back into PVP which I've stepped away from for a long time. I was hugely into Halo MP back in the day, and even enjoyed infinite for what it was, but Destiny was obviously not PVP focused and I could never get into crucible. I've never been a fan of CoD style gameplay.

It's great to see Bungie back and focusing on a PVP game, I am loving everything I see about Marathon right now based on the footage and impressions. Glad it's getting a September release. No idea if I'll get into the Alpha, I honestly just want to kind of go in fresh instead so I may not bother signing up.

I think they have a massive hit on their hands and this will be the next big thing in Live Service like Helldivers 2.



The game is ABOUT PVP, that's the point. Not sure what you're getting at.

You may have been right about Concord, but you're basically wrong about everything as it relates to Xbox. This game isn't going to be for everyone - I don't know why I need to even say this. No game is for everyone. The potential audience for this game is still enormous. Tons of people love PVP.



This is becoming a trend of complaining for complaining's sake. We can't let other people enjoy this new game, that does not appeal to you. Other people have to go out of their way to trash on other people for liking these games and hoping Bungie shuts down. Just toxic discourse all around.


I considered that, but then realized everything you were saying indicates you aren't paying close attention. Like literally everything you have said is incorrect regarding your complaints about the game. I listed each one based on all the footage. And even now you are saying you can't tell the difference between shells - what? They are extremely obvious. They all look radically different, and all the abilities are much different. EVERYONE that has played it is saying that. But someone to your eye you can't see it.

That's why you're being called out. You're not saying things that make any lick of sense and do not jive with either footage or the impressions from people that have played it.

Drewsky goes into detail about Shell's in his video.

 

[John Wick]

I liked what I saw. It will have great gunplay which is guaranteed. Hopefully it will be well supported and do well. Hopefully all you losers will be eating crow towards the end of the year.
Hate negativity just for the sake of negativity.
At least give the game a chance.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I liked what I saw. It will have great gunplay which is guaranteed. Hopefully it will be well supported and do well. Hopefully all you losers will be eating crow towards the end of the year.
Hate negativity just for the sake of negativity.
At least give the game a chance.

Honest question

With some big games coming out the latter half of this year why would people pay money to give a game a chance when they don't like what they see?

 

[schaft0620]

I liked what I saw. It will have great gunplay which is guaranteed. Hopefully it will be well supported and do well. Hopefully all you losers will be eating crow towards the end of the year.
Hate negativity just for the sake of negativity.
At least give the game a chance.

For Bungie and Sonys sake, I hope that its a huge hit but I am going to be playing Borderlands 4 that day.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Honest question

With some big games coming out the latter half of this year why would people pay money to give a game a chance when they don't like what they see?

Dumb question is dumb.

Nobody says people should buy a game they don't like.

 

[Gudji]

Game looks mediocre dude.

What are you talking about ?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Dumb question is dumb.

Nobody says people should buy a game they don't like.

He said give them game a chance, how are people supposed to give it a chance?

Thanks for the useless input

You guys working OT to defend this game just like another game I recall, hope it pays well

 

[Killjoy-NL]

He said give them game a chance, how are people supposed to give it a chance?

Maybe by not writing it off before the gameplay was even revealed?

Talk about useless input...

It's like some of you suffer from some kind of Concord-syndrome.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

to all my LatinX friends:

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Maybe by not writing it off before the gameplay was even revealed?

Talk about useless input...

It's like some of you suffer from some kind of Concord-syndrome.

Definitely odd for sure how much people want this to be a failure.

Just because GTA6 may come out a month or two later doesn't mean this game will suddenly not do well. They're totally different types of games. And why can't you play both? I will.

I think a September release is perfect. I doubt GTA6 comes out until November at the earliest anyways. GTA6 will of course occupy a lot of time upfront but after that you just go back to playing Marathon, that's sort of how live service works. There's always some next big hot SP game lurking but Live Service just continues indefinitely. One game's success doesn't mean another game's failure.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Maybe by not writing it off before the gameplay was even revealed?

Talk about useless input...

It's like some of you suffer from some kind of Concord-syndrome.

Maybe you missed it but I saw a lot of gameplay

Oh we are supposed to wait for more videos that will show it off better?

And most gamers knew what was going to happen to Concord, the group beholden to the Larry Hagman wannabe looked like tools defending it and many of the same group are doing it again

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Maybe you missed it but I saw a lot of gameplay

Oh we are supposed to wait for more videos that will show it off better?

No, if it's not for you, I'm not going to try and change your mind.
Couldn't give 2 shits, tbh.

And most gamers knew what was going to happen to Concord, the group beholden to the Larry Hagman wannabe looked like tools defending it and many of the same group are doing it again

No shit, Sherlock, so did I.

Find one post of me hyping up Concord or even implying it was an amazing game.

 

[BlackTron]

Definitely odd for sure how much people want this to be a failure.

Just because GTA6 may come out a month or two later doesn't mean this game will suddenly not do well. They're totally different types of games. And why can't you play both? I will.

I think a September release is perfect. I doubt GTA6 comes out until November at the earliest anyways. GTA6 will of course occupy a lot of time upfront but after that you just go back to playing Marathon, that's sort of how live service works. There's always some next big hot SP game lurking but Live Service just continues indefinitely. One game's success doesn't mean another game's failure.

Were you the guy who liked Concord?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Were you the guy who liked Concord?

I thought it played competently. I don't think that was ever under dispute. Did you play it?

Was never a fan of the art. The progression system was lacking, and it was just a pretty basic and bare bones but competent shooter. Totally understand why it failed, but I don't think it was an inherently horrible playing game.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Marathon though. Marathon isn't concord and is a hell of a lot more involved.

 

[Insane Metal]

Damn this looks so bad.

Looks like a dozen other shooters.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Damn this looks so bad.

Looks like a dozen other shooters.

List them

 

[Insane Metal]

List them

Nah I'm good. It's ok if you like it tho.

 

[Nocty]

Damn this looks so bad.

Looks like a dozen other shooters.

you have to wonder how depressing it must be to be a developer working on something for this long and the reception to be pretty universally negative (imho with good reason this time). I hope it works out for them but fuck, this industry is brutal

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I considered that, but then realized everything you were saying indicates you aren't paying close attention.

I don't like this.

I don't like this one bit.

The one GAAS obsessed guy on NeoGAF, with a Marathon avatar...a guy who wrote the following post (https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-...t-and-im-tired-of-pretending-its-not.1677230/) just "didn't pay attention" to the Marathon reveal? I mean, WTF are we doing here?

If you believe that (You don't) then it means not only that I am retarded, but you are retarded for interacting with me.

No, I think it's much more likely that we both paid attention and came to different conclusions.

Like literally everything you have said is incorrect regarding your complaints about the game. I listed each one based on all the footage.

Did I miss this post of yours? I don't remember you addressing any of my complaints with Marathon.

And even now you are saying you can't tell the difference between shells - what? They are extremely obvious. They all look radically different, and all the abilities are much different. EVERYONE that has played it is saying that. But someone to your eye you can't see it.

No, that's not what I said. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and restate my position.

I find the shell abilities to be so muted that they become boring.

There's interesting asymmetry in multi-player like Spies vs Mercs, Heroes of the Storm, and Dead by Daylight. Class systems have the ability to encourage you to play in specific, unique playstyles that appeal to your personality as a player. Then there are what I deem to be boring games like Halo, CoD, and CSGO where the asymmetry is muted, if non existent. These games care less about your personality as a gamer and funnel you towards a single playstyle.

Marathons shells looked so muted that winning / losing fights appear to mostly boil down to who could sprint, slide, and head click better. That's boring to me.

Obviously design is on a spectrum and Marathon is not as muted as Halo Infinite, but hopefully you understand what I'm getting at here.

BTW, Travis from IGN and Skarrow both said the abilities play a much smaller role than anticipated. Did they too just "not pay attention"?

That's why you're being called out. You're not saying things that make any lick of sense and do not jive with either footage or the impressions from people that have played it.

I think what I'm saying is actually a pretty common position. It's much more rational to accuse me of being a contrarian troll with my endorsement of Wildgate. While still wrong, no one here seemed to be interested in what that game offers.

Marathon is clearly divisive. Accusing half the people who were turned off by it as being insincere or "not paying attention" just seems immature.

 

[BlackTron]

I thought it played competently. I don't think that was ever under dispute. Did you play it?

Was never a fan of the art. The progression system was lacking, and it was just a pretty basic and bare bones but competent shooter. Totally understand why it failed, but I don't think it was an inherently horrible playing game.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Marathon though. Marathon isn't concord and is a hell of a lot more involved.

Bad art, bad progression system, basic, bare bones

BUT COMPETENT

 

[SkylineRKR]

Yeah, Tarkov isn't F2P, but Tarkov also wasn't trying to onboard the average shooter fan or grow a wide community. It was unapologetically hardcore from the jump, and it stayed niche for years before breaking into a wider space. If Bungie wants to make Tarkov 2.0, then sure, charging upfront is consistent with that model. But if they're aiming to broaden the extraction shooter audience and invite in players who've never touched this genre, which they've implied, then reducing friction matters.

And yeah, live-service games always evolve, absolutely. That's fair. But there's a difference between evolving mechanics or balancing content after players buy in, and building the core gameplay loop with significant community input. If you're inviting players to help shape the game's direction (which is what Bungie has said), then pricing starts to matter more.

Skill-Up's point isn't that "live service games must be free," it's that if you're asking players to invest time to help build something and your genre already has a steep learning curve and punishing loot mechanics, then a price tag becomes a bigger deterrent than in something more accessible, like Helldivers 2.

So I wouldn't say his argument isn't rooted in common sense. I'd say it's rooted in a different vision of what kind of game Marathon is trying to be, and who it's for.

PvE is much easier to get into in general. Helldivers is quite accessible and doesn't really have a high skill ceiling Marathon very obviously has. Even Destiny had tons of PvE content, which many players started in.

But I think a big caveat is that Sony likely won't let Marathon evolve. Warframe, Tarkov etc started as kind of niche products. But developers continued to work on them anyway. It took years for those games to become hugely succesful.

If the launch numbers aren't good, Sony will likely pull the plug sooner than later.

 

[Bry0]

Destiny 2 was the first (and only) game i cared about pvp, after years of singleplayer gaming, mostly Souls games, definitely gonna check this out.
Also Bungie could implement some pve events, like Overwatch Halloween Terror.

That would be cool actually. Very cool.

 

[clappedcheeks]

He said give them game a chance, how are people supposed to give it a chance?

Thanks for the useless input

You guys working OT to defend this game just like another game I recall, hope it pays well

I think the pertinent part of the original quote was hating negatively for the sake of negativity. There's always an army of people waiting to shit on every reveal of any big release on the horizon.

I hope the game turns out well and I'll give the beta a try. If it doesn't click I'll not expend any energy yelling about how much I hate it.

 

[__SteakDeck__]

to all my LatinX friends:

Anyone who says Marathon is like Concord is a moron, who should not be taken seriously. It's like saying Starfield was going to be like RedFall after that disaster.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Anyone who says Marathon is like Comcord is a moron, who should not be taken seriously. It's like saying Starfield was going to be like RedFall after that disaster.

I think the only moronic thing about it isn't the idea that Concord = Marathon, but rather failing to understand that this is about bad PR, the overall reception, and a complete disconnect between what players want and what's and effective this thing has being delivered.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I think the only moronic thing about it isn't the idea that Concord = Marathon, but rather failing to understand that this is about bad PR, the overall reception, and a complete disconnect between what players want and what's and effective this thing has being delivered.

But the community is split, so this still isn't a comparable situation.

Some act like pretty much everyone hates what was shown so far.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

But the community is split, so this still isn't a comparable situation.

Some act like pretty much everyone hates what was shown so far.

... how can I put this?

For Bungie and Sony, the issue isn't selling Marathon to those who are already sold on the game. The challenge is always selling it to those who are clueless, unaware, or on the fence/skewing negative.

the concord comparison it's a falirue on Bungie's/Sony's PR and Marketing. and im enjoying every second of it.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Nothing about this reveal was as awful as Concord, and this has a mega huge developer pedigree behind it with Bungie. The online response doesn't really mean shit. If that mattered, Call of Duty and Madden would flop every year.

The alpha will be important, and any beta, and when the game launches, it will smash Concord numbers. The question is does the player base stay or do they move on like they have moved on from a lot of extraction shooters.

But Concord is a dumb comparison.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

... how can I put this?

For Bungie and Sony, the issue isn't selling Marathon to those who are already sold on the game. The challenge is always selling it to those who are clueless, unaware, or on the fence/skewing negative.

Moving away from Destiny would've been a challenge regardless of what game they would make.

There was always a high probability of pissing off half of the Destiny fanbase for doing so. And then there is always the possibility that not everybody might not like it.

I think a lot of the initial reaction is primarily from the Destiny-community.

the concord comparison it's a falirue on Bungie's/Sony's PR and Marketing. and im enjoying every second of it.

That's fine, but I think people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Especially on Gaf, which is basically an isolated echo-chamber.

If anything, Gaf is typically wrong about pretty much everything.
People wrote off Marvel Rivals and AC Shadows, if you go by the regulars MH Wilds is a disaster, while all three ganes did extremely well.
People also acted like games such as Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, Indy and Avowed were the saviors of the industry, while they all did decent at best for the type of games they were.

Most people are completely irrational and then accuse anyone who doesn't agree as "defenders" (which often is projection of their own mentality).

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Moving away from Destiny would've been a challenge regardless of what game they would make.

There was always a high probability of pissing off half of the Destiny fanbase for doing so. And then there is always the possibility that not everybody might not like it.

I think a lot of the initial reaction is primarily from the Destiny-community.

that's another can of worms.

That's fine, but I think people are making a mountain out of a molehill. Especially on Gaf, which is basically an isolated echo-chamber.

If anything, Gaf is typically wrong about pretty much everything.

Destin (a very superficial "pundit") is mirroring the consensus

People wrote off Marvel Rivals and AC Shadows, if you go by the regulars MH Wilds is a disaster, while all three ganes did extremely well.
People also acted like games such as Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, Indy and Avowed were the saviors of the industry, while they all did decent at best for the type of games they were.

i don't want to comment about any of those games because the discourse with each one of them has its own universe of context and nuances.

Most people are completely irrational and then accuse anyone who doesn't agree as "defenders" (which often is projection of their own mentality).

yeah. but the opposite also happens. (toxic negativity and toxic positivity)

 

[Killjoy-NL]

that's another can of worms.

Not really, it's directly related to this topic, because a lot of complainers are mad they didn't get D3.

Destin (a very superficial "pundit") is mirroring the consensus

There is no consensus though.

i don't want to comment about any of those games because the discourse with each one of them has its own universe of context and nuances.

Yes, just like Marathon.

yeah. but the opposite also happens. (toxic negativity and toxic positivity)

Any example of this toxic positivity for Marathon?

And not talking about streamers who might be paid for promotion.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Not really, it's directly related to this topic, because a lot of complainers are mad they didn't get D3.

i was talking in relation to Bungie's ability (or lack there of) to support two games at once.

which could piss off and damage the Destiny community (even more) and cripple marathon''s growth chances.

There is no consensus though.

the consensus is that the marathon's reception is more negative than positive.

Yes, just like Marathon.

engaging in the discourse and it's outcome of any of games you mentioned in relation to marathon would be very retarded.

Any example of this toxic positivity for Marathon?

And not talking about streamers who might be paid for promotion.

do you have any toxic negativity for marathon?

and im not talking about random people online that only use rage bait for engagement.

see? it's silly


but here you go:

edit: "don't worry about it" famous last words the concord devs told each other

 

[Killjoy-NL]

i was talking in relation to Bungie's ability (or lack there of) to support two games at once.

which could piss off and damage the Destiny community (even more) and cripple marathon''s growth chances.

Could, sure. Theoretically a lot of things can happen.

For all we know Marathon could bomb as hard as Concord.
It could also sell like hotcakes, like Helldivers 2.

the consensus is that the marathon's reception is more negative than positive.

That's something different from what you seemed to imply initially, but I guess that could be the case. Sure.

engaging in the discourse and it's outcome of any of games you mentioned in relation to marathon would be very retarded.

But comparing it to Concord isn't?

do you have any toxic negativity for marathon?

Anyone comparing Marathon to Concord could be seen as such, I suppose.

But I wasn't the one who was talking about toxicity, that was you.

and im not talking about random people online that only use rage bait for engagement.

see? it's silly


but here you go:

edit: "don't worry about it" famous last words the concord devs told each other

Any game's discord is biased. Having said that, that Separer seems like a clown.

Good thing you balanced out his tweet by comparing this to Concord again.

 

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Marathon could be the next Concord, I don't think that's toxic negativity, just objective truth.