http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/crimea-was-never-ukrainian-says-marine-le-pen-1601485
Another psuedo-Nazi funded by Russia.
Another psuedo-Nazi funded by Russia.
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Marine Le Pen pledges to recognise Crimea and drop sanctions against Russia
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GhostTrick
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She said that a month ago indeed iirc.
But yeah, it's crazy how Russia is gaining traction. It's rather worrying. Good thing she wont pass in 2017.
But yeah, it's crazy how Russia is gaining traction. It's rather worrying. Good thing she wont pass in 2017.
where have i heard this before
HazySaiyan
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These fuckers aren't even trying to hide their obvious allegiances to Putin now are they?
radios shipping overview
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Spouting the party line like a forum shill. Putin's holding a party for assholes, and the only thing you have to do to join is profess loyalty.
Ultramantaro1
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This will hurt her. The French won't jump ship to the Pro-Putin side like the Republicans did.
fabricated backlash
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My god between Trump and Le Pen Putin will never have to wipe his ass again, enough tongues to lick it clean for him.
Mr. Giggles
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3rd times the charm
Perfect Blue
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In an event totally unrelated and that has no bearing on this one.
gutter_trash
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those Rubles delivered to her home daily
LegendofJoe
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Self-delusion is not a healthy habit.
wait
*grabs picture of family, makes sure siblings aren't fading away*
i swear ive heard this one before too
Perfect Blue
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Tell that to the Americans and Brits who think their own shitty political situations are somehow related to France. You may as well be arguing if it rains tomorrow in Saskatchewan it'll then snow in India.
DOBERMAN INC
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Just how many politician fetish videos does Putin have?
BlueTsunami
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Putin: Kiss the ring
Yaphett Kotto
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You cannot make this shit up...
Yeah I heard the same thing about Trump when people pointed out Brexit.
There is a distinct shift to the this kind of populism in the West.
You shouldn't act so confident in a result.
valkillmore
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Like brexit
Carpe Libertatem
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Trump and Brexit were never down 30+ points in polling.
He funds them
He's anti liberal
He's a strongman
He's supporting "traditional values"
I dunno...
Unless I am wrong, Mark Blyth, who has kind of become the cultural Nostradamus in the last few years, called La Pen getting huge momentum. And Blyth is someone we all should absolutely be listening to, as he alongside others have demonstrated the pattern of Neoliberal failings producing Neonational populism. Brexit, La Pen, and Trump are all absolutely related; don't bullshit yourselves otherwise.
He also argued that the EU will be left on its knees this year, so even that is concerning, but likely needed...
TheLostBigBoss
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he's the one paying their bills
You're basically repeating what many said about Brexit during the American elections. It helps to be cautious, never say that "it can't happen here", because it can.
Alx
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To be fair, the French don't really care about Russia. (we should, though)
Why do the people who have no idea what they're talking about have this urge to act patronising and contrarian?
Plenty of people meet the last 3 criteria. I feel that describes most dictators if not all of them.
The first is the only difference and I wonder how much Russia is influencing this and how much is just these dumbasses bending over for him for right wing reasons.
Apart from the fact that Russia is financially supporting the Front National, there's also the fact that Putin to the far right represents values that are getting less and less popular in the West. More conservative views on sexuality, conservative views on religion, strong nationalism, a greater respect for authority and a greater propensity to use force and so forth. It's not that hard to see why they like Putin as much as they do.
"Trump is pulling much lower than Brexit ever did" was the go-to argument against Trump/Brexit comparisons.
He's white when the US President is not. Pretends to be strong by going without a shirt. Hates the same groups of people as the right wing. Does whatever he wants on the international stage. Hates the press. They are natural allies, alas.
Carpe Libertatem
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Okay? Was he ever down 30 points like Le Pen has consistently been?
National polling had it close, at any rate. Hillary won the popular vote by 2%
Much lower being still a single digit difference.
LegendofJoe
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Our situations aren't an apple to apple comparison, that is certainly true. And I've said multiple times in this forum that I have more faith in the French people to reject far right insanity. That said it is not wise to ignore the fact that authoritarianism is on the rise worldwide, even in France. It is a serious threat to global peace and stability and we need to stand together to fight it on every front.
radios shipping overview
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The spread of the far right and the surge of authoritarian, anti-democratic values is not limited to any one area of the world right now.
Perfect Blue
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I never said that. I'm just saying Trump and Leave winning doesn't increase the chances of Le Pen winning. The average French, British, American, etc. voter isn't going to vote a certain way simply because another country voted in a certain way.
Pizza con salsiccia
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It's still fantastic to see people talking about "pledging allegiance" to Putin 
I'm just saying that it helps to be cautious. After hearing "it will never happen" so many times in 2016, and it did happen, I'm extremely nervous when I see people bluntly say those words now.
Stereogatari
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The French election system will keep Le Pen out.
And an absolute tanked economy.
These guys are all the same - they love the chest-beating, nationalism, and bravado, while ignoring everything falling apart around them.
Instead of making our countries into Russia maybe these right wingers should instead move to Russia and see how they like it there?
I think we can all agree that this is a good idea.
ReplacementPelican
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People need to drop the 'Brexit' schtick in these threads. UKIP and their leader, Nigel Farage - the equivalent of Trump and La Pen - couldn't even win his own constituency in the UK and UKIP have a total of one MP. To anyone unfamiliar with our electoral system, that's not a lot. It is, in fact, just one.
Despite the apparent majority of people agreeing with their only platform they still lost by a large margin because our country didn't want to elect that weasel. The public may have voted Brexit but showed no indication of electing someone like that.
Despite the apparent majority of people agreeing with their only platform they still lost by a large margin because our country didn't want to elect that weasel. The public may have voted Brexit but showed no indication of electing someone like that.
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