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Marvel Studios’ Secret Invasion | Official Trailer | Disney+ June 21

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
...and? The FF aren't in really in MCU yet so the same principle of a multi powered skrull applies; Emilia Clarke wasn't "deadpool'd", the basis is a character that has existed for 60 years.
And if you want to talk about "overpowered", invisible woman's abilities alone would shut down anything this MCU super skrull could attempt.

The Super Skrull in the comics had the powers of 4 heroes, in the tv series G'iah now has the powers of 22 super heroes (including a few of the most powerful Marvel super heroes we've seen up till now)

  • Flora Colossus (Groot)
  • Korg
  • Frost Beast
  • Hulk
  • Captain Marvel
  • Mantis
  • Thanos
  • Cull Obsidian
  • Extremis
  • Ebony Maw
  • Captain America
  • Ghost
  • Winter Soldier
  • Drax
  • Corvus Glaive
  • Abomination
  • Proxima Midnight
  • Outrider
  • Chitauri
  • Valkyrie
  • Thor Odinson
  • Gamora
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I thought this would be garbage, shapeshifters are story poison if used too much. Once you realize anyone can be another person impersonating them nothing has any significance.
Yeah, it only works when folks have to institute passwords or other tricks to determine who is legit or have The Thing type scenes of horror. But writers are lazy fucks so they CONSTANTLY have folks run off alone and trust people they just laid eyes on again...surprise bitch, I'm a shapeshifter! Over and over again.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
While it worked with Picard season 3, it was poison in Voyager when they did that with Species 8472.
It didn't work in Picard s3, it led to lots of dumb scenes of folks CONSTANTLY getting shot in the back and the few times they did catch a shapeshifter they did even more dumb things like not vaporize them on the spot, stab them with swords, or turn their back on an intact body, over and over.

The shapeshifter stuff was, BY FAR, the worst part of that season.
 
The Super Skrull in the comics had the powers of 4 heroes, in the tv series G'iah now has the powers of 22 super heroes (including a few of the most powerful Marvel super heroes we've seen up till now)
Again, and? The point is the priniciple is the same; you also keep going on about them being "so powerful", but ignore that invisible woman beats nearly everyone on that list, super skrull is supposed to be powerful.

Also it's 22 people, but many of them overlap, like cap and bucky are essentially the same powerset.

There's basically "strong" (strength/stamina/durability):
Korg, hulk, thanos, cull obsidian, captain america, winter soldier, drax, abomination, corvus glaive, valkyrie, proxima midnight, outrider, captain marvel, thor, frost beast, groot; those are all covered by the thing

Then there's the "stretch" power, which is just groot; Mr fantastic does this much better
Flight/levitation, captain marvel, ebony maw; same as torch and invisible woman
Telekinesis, ebony maw; invisible woman has got this covered
Energy blasts, captain marvel; torch is the equivalent here
Intangible/invisble: ghost; invisible woman has ghost completely beat here since she can just turn off ghost's invisibility
Touch telepathy/empathy: mantis; kl'rt had his own super skrull hypnosis, and no touch required.

Chitauri and gamora add nothing, since gamora's and the chitauri enhancements are cybernetic.
So that leaves this super skrull with a grand total of 2 abilities kl'rt didn't have (of course ignoring the amount of abilities invisible woman alone has):
Accelerated healing: extremis, hulk
Ice manipulation: frost beast

No lightning because Thor has that as his status as god.

Later super skrulls also showed having the combined abilities of more than 4 people, and in a way that it actually mattered, not like this super skrull where 80% of them are the same "big/strong".
 

Ulysses 31

Member
Watching the breakdown of the full series and wow the writers really did a number on Fury here, destroying practically every facet of him, his history, his acomplishments,, his motivation, his character. The show seems to glee in reminding the viewer that he's old and a failure now. They sure knock him down, never to build him back up.

 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Watching the breakdown of the full series and wow the writers really did a number on Fury here, destroying practically every facet of him, his history, his acomplishments,, his motivation, his character. The show seems to glee in reminding the viewer that he's old and a failure now. They sure knock him down, never to build him back up.


Well he's a straight male so I guess it's not that much of a surprise.
 
I actually, truly would have given this show a good rating if they had simply not bothered with that final CG fight. I don’t know why studios think a formula must always be followed(big CG fest at the end).

Yes, it had a lot of narrative issues, but I would have preferred just espionage, dialogue, and subterfuge all the way through. Why is Marvel so afraid of this?

The fact that they couldn’t keep this from going over the top means that I should be worried about the new Daredevil show.
 

FunkMiller

Member
The Super Skrull in the comics had the powers of 4 heroes, in the tv series G'iah now has the powers of 22 super heroes (including a few of the most powerful Marvel super heroes we've seen up till now)

  • Flora Colossus (Groot)
  • Korg
  • Frost Beast
  • Hulk
  • Captain Marvel
  • Mantis
  • Thanos
  • Cull Obsidian
  • Extremis
  • Ebony Maw
  • Captain America
  • Ghost
  • Winter Soldier
  • Drax
  • Corvus Glaive
  • Abomination
  • Proxima Midnight
  • Outrider
  • Chitauri
  • Valkyrie
  • Thor Odinson
  • Gamora

Vine Wtf GIF


That's fucking idiotic.

That's the most powerful being in the whole universe by some fucking margin, and nothing could stop her.

Ultimate girl boss extreme.
 
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Vine Wtf GIF


That's fucking idiotic.

That's the most powerful being in the whole universe by some fucking margin, and nothing could stop her.

Ultimate girl boss extreme.
They will probably set some sort of 'limiter' to correct this, like only being able to use each power for a limited time or something.

The idea does honestly sound like when kids would play with toys, one-up each other with poweres, and then they would eventually say 'well I have the power of everything!' and the next kid says 'well I have the power of everything and I'm stronger!'
 

Spyxos

Member
The Super Skrull in the comics had the powers of 4 heroes, in the tv series G'iah now has the powers of 22 super heroes (including a few of the most powerful Marvel super heroes we've seen up till now)

  • Flora Colossus (Groot)
  • Korg
  • Frost Beast
  • Hulk
  • Captain Marvel
  • Mantis
  • Thanos
  • Cull Obsidian
  • Extremis
  • Ebony Maw
  • Captain America
  • Ghost
  • Winter Soldier
  • Drax
  • Corvus Glaive
  • Abomination
  • Proxima Midnight
  • Outrider
  • Chitauri
  • Valkyrie
  • Thor Odinson
  • Gamora
She became way too powerful in this series. But I am relatively sure that we will never see this character again. Hardly anyone has seen the series and to somehow integrate the Giah character into the Mcu can only backfire. I mean she could defeat Thanos without any problems.
 

FunkMiller

Member
They will probably set some sort of 'limiter' to correct this, like only being able to use each power for a limited time or something.

The idea does honestly sound like when kids would play with toys, one-up each other with poweres, and then they would eventually say 'well I have the power of everything!' and the next kid says 'well I have the power of everything and I'm stronger!'

It's fucking cretinous.

You've now got a character who can destroy anything and anyone in your universe. Is she turning up in The Marvels to just solve everything? Is she going to take Kang out? What about if they ever introduce Galactus? She'll just fuck him up in a second.

The MCU has fucking died a death, hasn't it?
 
You've now got a character who can destroy anything and anyone in your universe. Is she turning up in The Marvels to just solve everything? Is she going to take Kang out? What about if they ever introduce Galactus? She'll just fuck him up in a second.
You know that's never how this works. I've come to realize over time that only the Arrowverse actually pulled off the 'let's just ask this person to help us solve this' because those stars were all C-listers and B-listers so it was theoretically possible. Most marvel heroes will solve their own problems and rarely ask for help, because if they do that means more inflated budgets due to paying A-listers huge amounts of money for a 10-20 minute cameo. Budget is one of the big secret things that's making most of these Marvel shows nonsensical in nature, because they simply don't want to pay that much for cameos. The others are obviously writing and time.
The MCU has fucking died a death, hasn't it?
I don't know. It needs honestly needs a break and it's about to have one thanks to the strike. Trying to factory-release everything cost them a ton when it came to quality and everyone has been strained from too much work, from writers, to production, to CG artists(and you can tell with these recent projects because the CG artists are usually the only good thing about a bad big budget show). Audiences have also been strained of too much supply and not enough demand. As I've said before about the MCU, they simply need to slow it down.
 
That's the most powerful being in the whole universe by some fucking margin, and nothing could stop her.
not really, a lot of the powers overlap and add nothing, like there's no point in captain america's strength when you have thor's strength etc.
Also none of the super skrulls were ever as powerful as the original, they were generally at 50% if they weren't charged up.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
not really, a lot of the powers overlap and add nothing, like there's no point in captain america's strength when you have thor's strength etc.
Also none of the super skrulls were ever as powerful as the original, they were generally at 50% if they weren't charged up.
How are you sure they just overlap and don't stack?
 
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How are you sure they just overlap and don't stack?
...Because they don't? That's not how the super skrull powers have ever worked; the abilities don't stack and aren't as potent as the original and also they can't be altered for anything that's metaphysical (not from DNA), like Hulk's real strength or Thor's lightning, or the phoenix.

I guess the harvest allows them to shapeshift into all those people, but most of the abilities are redundant.
 

Trunx81

Member
I really wanted to like it but after two episodes, I quit. Thank god Honest Trailers and Pitch Meeting are there to show me that this actually was a wise decision.

The trope of the "Old man struggling with his past/present, therefore a young woman takes his place" has to go, fast. Imagine they would do that to Indiana Jones - that would be outrageous! People would riot and tank that movie /s
 
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