Wheeljack539
Member
I've heard that too. I've had an odd desire to see this movie ever since I saw a blurb article on it in EGM all those years ago.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Marvel Studios' Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness | Official Trailer
- Thread starter ManaByte
- Start date
I've heard that too. I've had an odd desire to see this movie ever since I saw a blurb article on it in EGM all those years ago.
ManaByte
Member
Been on YouTube for years. Since the movie technically doesn't exist, it can't be taken down.
ManaByte
Member
And it's the best quality you'll get. Since Avi Arad destroyed the original negative, the movie really only exists in VHS copies of one print that was made.
sCHOCOLATE
Member
If Marvel are going to utilize him, they better not waste any time. Sir Stewart is getting on in years...On Imdb, it shows as Charles Xavier. Could this be true or Imdb needs to do another check?
Is truly a wonderful thing to see Patrick Stewart as Xavier for a cameo.
sCHOCOLATE
Member
Raimi is in his element. Let's see how he interprets Marvel Deadites.
sol_bad
Member
Yes, they have a "plan" of what they want to release. They may have "shown" She-Hulk internally in 2018 but they didn't have a writer for the show until November 2019 and a director until September 2020.
Same with the other movies and shows. They'll have targets of where they want various shows and movies to release. Internally they'll know what it is but it doesn't mean any actual production, casting or story has been thought out. They have to know what they want to release in 5 years time because within 2-3 years they'll start production on it as production is completed on other projects.
So yeah, I can agree that casting has started for the X-Men project. The mutants are a massive cast, might require a lot of actors. Even for minimal roles that might just be background student characters, they could become main characters later. As an example, Armor might be a small student role in the first 1-4 films and eventually become a main character after graduating.
ManaByte
Member
It's more than that. They have the entire plot of the MCU mapped out in 5, 10, 15, year increments. It gets less concrete around the 15 year mark, but they actually have the overall plots mapped out including what movies will introduce what characters and what elements. It used to be on a big board in Kevin Feige's office during the Creative Committee days and as of 2013 they had it all planned out until about 2030, but as the MCU has grown it's now an entire room that only the brain trust has access to.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
I do hope Patrick Stewart is playing a more vigorous character then his last few. Hes like a frail grandpa in Picard.
sol_bad
Member
If it is Xavier, it's an alternate reality Xavier, not MCU proper Xavier. Its not even Fox universe Xavier. Mutants won't come into the MCU via multiverse.
Last edited:
ManaByte
Member
Apparently this Xavier is
killed by Wanda
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Any ideas on how they will be introduced?
I doubt the X-gene exists in current MCU.
Something must lead to triggering it.
ManaByte
Member
Most of the MCU has been based on Hickman's stuff so far. Hydra being SHIELD, the Black Order, etc. They're probably on Krakoa.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Can’t anyone be born with the X-gene though?
(I’m only familiar with the 90’s cartoon)
It’d have to be a massive coverup if they’re pulling people out of their homes to live on an island?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
And What If...
sol_bad
Member
Nah, still no idea or no hints from Marvel Studios on how it happens.
I'm just thinking of the start of the first X-Men movie, you could easily put that beginning scene after Endgame, change or add a few lines and it would make sense. The 5 year gap is a time period we haven't seen and you could easily say that mutants started appearing very frequently and that it could be related to the snappening and radiation and yadda yadda. The OG 5 and other mutants would be 14/15/16 at the snappening and their abilities are unlocked at that time. Jump forward 5 years, after everyone returns and they are 19/20/21, adults and ready to take on missions themselves.
But I feel mutants existed before the snappening, there just weren't very many and they hid from society, they aren't super heroes, just freaks with abilities or disfigurements. And the reason I feel that mutants have always been around is because of the comics history. Mutants, Inhumans, Kree, they've always been intertwined as part of the universes history and something they could easily introduce in the MCU. Namor and Apocalypse are 2 of the oldest mutants and so mutants have to have been around for a long time for them to exist.
And yes, anyone can randomly be a mutant, just like anyone can randomly be an Inhuman. And if two mutants have a baby, chances of them having a mutant baby is higher.
Last edited:
UnravelKatharsis
Member
One thing about speculation over who a character from the trailer might be: marvel has been known to alter appearances in trailers purely to keep secrets. We won't see Nova before Guardians 3 so that character could be just about anyone who flies and shoots energy beams 
Doom85
Member
that character could be just about anyone who flies and shoots energy beams
Anybody?!
No shit, Strange, the power scaling of the heroes is about to get all fucked up!
UnravelKatharsis
Member
Sure why not. It's Disney we're talking about here.Anybody?!
No shit, Strange, the power scaling of the heroes is about to get all fucked up!
PSlayer
Member
I think each of the illuminati members will be from a different universe. Like a multiverse organization.
If black panther is in it will be a variant.
Honestly i'm just in for tom cruise as an overpowered asshole ironman.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
It’d be a good way to switch out the original actor since they don’t want to kill him off. Just have him go into another dimension where his father is still alive.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Anybody?!
No shit, Strange, the power scaling of the heroes is about to get all fucked up!
So
Switch = hawkeye
XSS = War machine
PS5 = Wanda
XSX = Strange
?
Mister Apoc
Demigod of Troll Threads
nerd question but currently who has more raw power...Wanda or Strange?
sol_bad
Member
I guess we'll find out in this movie. LOL
Honestly though, in the comics, whoever the writer wants to win will win. They are both super powerful, Wanda probably more so but a good writer can have Strange win.
Punished Miku
Banned
Wanda obviously. All she is is raw power. Strange has more varied techniques, tricks, arcane knowledge, artifacts.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
My "I thought about it for ten seconds" analogy.
Strange can manipulate the force. Wanda is the force.
ManaByte
Member
Secret Wars or bust
Can't do that without a decade of build up for Doom.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Who says they're going to use Doom? Seems to me they're using Kang instead.
ManaByte
Member
Kang is more of a Young Avengers villain:
Wiccan & Speed - WandaVision & Multiverse of Madness
America Chavez - Multiverse of Madness
Kate Bishop - Hawkeye
Patriot - Falcon & Winter Soldier
Cassie Lang - Quantumania
Ms. Marvel - The Marvels & Ms. Marvel
Riri Williams - Wakanda Forever & Ironheart
Only one who's missing is Hulkling, and maybe Secret Invasion will set him up?
Last edited:
Doom85
Member
Pretty sure the movie agrees she’s in the wrong, the way she delivers the “that doesn’t seem fair“ seems to come off as her about to fuck shit up, the “if you want me to be evil, then so be it” type of character direction. Especially since we see several people condemning Strange for his mistake so her assessment is obviously off.
She’ll either be the ultimate villain of the movie, or work with the evil Strange.
Oh, and in terms of Kang, he is confirmed to be in it, but I doubt they’d already have him as the main threat this soon.
ManaByte
Member
She is. Supreme Strange is a misdirection.
The WandaVision post-credit scene (which most people think Raimi directed) is the direct setup for this. She's using the Darkhold to find her imaginary kids in the multiverse.
No he's not. The only movie he's confirmed to be in is Quantumania.
Last edited:
Doom85
Member
NoLootBoxDev
Member
I can see something along the lines of: "...of the mutants existed, but something erased/remove them from the memory/universe. Boom ends with whoever wants to bring them back, the new "Thanos/bad guy".
ManaByte
Member
Wanda could've said "No More Mutants" in one universe and it made everyone in all other universes forget them kind of like Strange's spell in No Way Home.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Kang has already been set up in Loki and he’s the villain in Quantumania. Though he’s been a young avengers foe, he’s also an avengers foe, too.
Remember, MCU doesn’t follow the comics point to point… lots of deviations.
sol_bad
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Doesn't have to. We heard how bad the multiverse war was in Loki... Whole universes snuffed out... If Kang and his variants can snuff out UNIVERSES, not to mention He Who Remains living long enough til the end of time to limit the multiverse to a few universes... Then don't you think they (or he) can do what Doom did in the comics?
sol_bad
Member
No, I agree Kang could easily do what Doom did and I'm fine with it being Kang instead of Doom. My last comment wasn't meant to be taken too seriously. If they do eventually lead up to Secret Wars, I wonder if they'll introduce Molecule man as well or if they'll come up with another way for Battle World to exist.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
I think evil strange is going to want to suck up her powers (see what if stories).
ManaByte
Member
Supreme Strange is barely in the movie, again it’s a misdirection. Wanda is the villain.
sol_bad
Member
If you are talking about leaks can you please make sure you are spoiler tagging them.
ManaByte
Member
Let me guess, you're one of those people who got all pissed when people were saying Mysterio was the villain in FFH because the trailer was making him look like a hero, right?