Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT| - Ya down with OTG? Yeah, you know me!
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I'm oddly reminded of the "Final Smash: For or Against" type of arguments I saw back during the apex of the Brawl days anytime X-Factor gets brought up here. :lol
The way I see it, X Factor is Hype Factor, there's multiple viable ways to use it, just gotta find out what works best for your style.
The way I see it, X Factor is Hype Factor, there's multiple viable ways to use it, just gotta find out what works best for your style.
MarshMellow96
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Well that team just got smashed...
piratepwnsninja
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Zero, Hulk, She-hulk combo made Team Ass look like ass.
Aaronology
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Hell's Bells, this thread moves fast. Would someone mind reposting the stream? I can't seen to dig it out from under all these new pages. >:\
MarshMellow96
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Neither? How can X factor be "abused" when both players have it? And from the matches I have seen people are just playing Sentinel a lot but still getting wrecked. Just saw team ASS get raped by a couple of Hulks, it was embarrassing. Now Arthur PLUS Sentinel is almost as bad as Sentinel + Spiral from MVC2 but again this is new so people just need to learn how to deal with it. People aren't using the numerous chasing down abilities of the heroes like teleports, swinging etc. Taking out Arthur in that team basically cripples it because now it doesn't have a good assist at all.Jinfash said:
I would say WAIT UNTIL EVO at least and then decide. Most likely a nerf to both would be enough or at least the best thing to do is to nerf Sentinel WITH X Factor.
Foxy Fox 39
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NerdJosh is boring.
This. Tune X-Factor. Make it a cancel and speed boost only. No damage buff.MThanded said:
As for Sentinel, remove him completely, put a different character in like Gambit/Venom/the usual requests. Sentinel needed to get nerfed like a mofo, and they didn't do enough.
Then again, we're still pre-release.
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BentMyWookiee
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LiK said:
Yeah, and it looks like it's going to be an annoying combo to play against
Net_Wrecker
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Acid08 said:
Holy crap I was about to type the same thing, it looks boring as hell.
piratepwnsninja
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Does Jwong not liking MvC3 mean that he won't offer it as part of his training services? If so, I am extremely disappointed because I only want to learn from the best.
X-Factor has too much an impact on the round. It becomes less about the matchups and more about "What do I do about the final boss?"Dahbomb said:
As bad as sent is, Thor is and the other heavy hitters are just as bad with lvl 3
MarshMellow96
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So the most exciting, fast-paced fighter of this gen is reduced to keep away tactics? Bitch puh-lease.
I hope the more casual players don't get in on that ASS. Ken Arthur.. Kentinel.. Ororo Kenroe?
I hope the more casual players don't get in on that ASS. Ken Arthur.. Kentinel.. Ororo Kenroe?
Jumping to conclusions etc..
Foxy Fox 39
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I think he's trying to get on the leaderboards thats why hes cheesing the whole day.
A lot of characters can get in on DAT ASS. Even She Hulk can get in and she isn't even the most mobile character.
Thing is that people are coming into online without a proper "team". They are just picking random heroes they like without any proper combinations. Like how the HELL is a team consisting of Akuma and Ryu going to chase down Arthur with Sentinel drones?
This is more like noob stomping than anything else.
Stuff that doesn't need changing:
*Still allows you to cancel moves and block stun.
*Can only be used once.
*Recovers red health on point and heals assist characters faster.
*Negates chip damage
Stuff that should be changed:
*Duration of X Factor. It should be 10/15/20 not 10/20/30.
*Buff of X-Factor. It should be character specific and give buff depending upon character type. I know it does this currently but it has it all wrong with the heavy characters.
Heavy characters should just receive a boost in stamina (ie no damage upgrade)
Speed/rushdown characters should just receive a boost in speed.
Combo heavy/normal characters should receive a boost in damage.
This will automatically buff up Ryu as well as he is a normal character along with Captain America, Viewtiful Joe and others.
*Increases chip damage. Any character who gets an increase in damage should not get THAT MUCH of an increase in chip damage. It should be a slight increase at best.
*Levels. I like the idea of this but it's gross as of now. It needs to increase per level just by not that much.
Thing is that people are coming into online without a proper "team". They are just picking random heroes they like without any proper combinations. Like how the HELL is a team consisting of Akuma and Ryu going to chase down Arthur with Sentinel drones?
This is more like noob stomping than anything else.
Hence why I said it needs to be tweaked, not removed. It's an awesome mechanic without the buff.DY_nasty said:
Stuff that doesn't need changing:
*Still allows you to cancel moves and block stun.
*Can only be used once.
*Recovers red health on point and heals assist characters faster.
*Negates chip damage
Stuff that should be changed:
*Duration of X Factor. It should be 10/15/20 not 10/20/30.
*Buff of X-Factor. It should be character specific and give buff depending upon character type. I know it does this currently but it has it all wrong with the heavy characters.
Heavy characters should just receive a boost in stamina (ie no damage upgrade)
Speed/rushdown characters should just receive a boost in speed.
Combo heavy/normal characters should receive a boost in damage.
This will automatically buff up Ryu as well as he is a normal character along with Captain America, Viewtiful Joe and others.
*Increases chip damage. Any character who gets an increase in damage should not get THAT MUCH of an increase in chip damage. It should be a slight increase at best.
*Levels. I like the idea of this but it's gross as of now. It needs to increase per level just by not that much.
A big issue i see is that it last 30 seconds with one character and 10 with 3 characters. Logically it may make sense but its really not the same thing. You can only play one point character at time so it may make your assists stronger for a while if you have 3 but the other person can block like a fiend and negate chip for 10 seconds then they have 20 seconds to fry your ass.DY_nasty said:
Spirit of Jazz
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piratepwnsninja said:
How will he be able to provide expert commentary like he did during the Neo/Clockwork match?
sonicspear64 said:Played this last night with Dandy J and some other Columbus folks. It was my first time playing so he taught me and some other people shit in training mode. He also tried some stuff in the lab that amazed me. Here's some random thoughts from a scrub:
Dandy's going to be making some new homo-genius videos too!
- Lei-Lei is kinda ass. Don't get me wrong, she can do really good damage, but she has limited options to get in to do that damage. Slow air/ground dash is what's hurting her. A lot of the people I talked to are the same way. Even with Sent's assist (one of the best in the game), there's not enough time for her to get in. Hopefully, someone makes her work later on...
- As everyone knows, Sent's retarded easy to play and does big damage. X-Factor w/ Hyper Sentinel Force chipouts and shit.... lol
- Spencer's Bionic Arm HC is invincible on startup and will pretty much stuff anything from half-screen. So you can't counter HC unless you use hailstorm or something. Spencer can X-Factor when blocking a beam hyper (Shinkuu or Proton Cannon) and do the HC from about half-screen and go through it, but the timing is really difficult.
- Akuma (who's pretty good, btw) can do the same thing with Raging Demon. Again the timing is difficult as fuck, but it looks cool to go through a beam like that. Good for trolling!
Pendulum.
Plus with her items and gongs she can play keepaway effectively it seems.
It doesnt seem like her ground dash is that slow, and it goes through tons of things.
Jinfash
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Tuning XF sounds like the more reasonable option, but I can't help but feel that people (including the now hissy Wong) were a lot happier about the game right before the final build (Sent build).
Either way I hope Niitsuma's team are fully prepared and open to the idea of rolling out balance updates (more so than Ono), a subject that is foreign to the VS series since most veterans just adapted to how broken MvC2 was and just dealtwithit. I feel balance patches in this game would incur more rage than any other title.
Either way I hope Niitsuma's team are fully prepared and open to the idea of rolling out balance updates (more so than Ono), a subject that is foreign to the VS series since most veterans just adapted to how broken MvC2 was and just dealtwithit. I feel balance patches in this game would incur more rage than any other title.
marathonfool
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That Arthur/Sent projectile spam is hilarious. Nerdjosh abusing that day one strategy. I always thought the MvC series was always about being cheap. So I don't get the complaints.
This game looks like a blast just to play casually too.
This game looks like a blast just to play casually too.
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