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Amaterasu, Joe and Phoenix deserved to be in the game more than any of the boring actual choices. Them being missing while Nemesis and Firebrand made it is the perfect example of Capcom's garbage priorities.
 
Does anyone believe the tone of this game might be why those Clover characters and Phoenix Wright aren't in?

Capcom is Capcom, but I can't seem to shake the feeling that there might be more than meets the eye here.
 
Does anyone believe the tone of this game might be why those Clover characters and Phoenix Wright aren't in?

Capcom is Capcom, but I can't seem to shake the feeling that there might be more than meets the eye here.

I could see why Marvel/Disney wouldn't be very excited about their characters beating the shit out of a dog, but I don't see how Viewtiful Joe wouldn't make it in alongside Arthur and Rocket.
 
I could see why Marvel/Disney wouldn't be very excited about their characters beating the shit out of a dog, but I don't see how Viewtiful Joe wouldn't make it in alongside Arthur and Rocket.

I guess I'm just trying to see if there's more than the go to, "they're obviously holding them back for DLC" stance. That's the most likely answer, though.
 
Does anyone believe the tone of this game might be why those Clover characters and Phoenix Wright aren't in?

Capcom is Capcom, but I can't seem to shake the feeling that there might be more than meets the eye here.

Yes tbqh. The art style they're going for doesn't play well with someone like Veiwtiful Joe haha.
 
It really feels like they want an MvCU. Only characters that fit the story they want to tell are going to make it in. If so we are gonna lose out on a lot of really fun, interesting characters for the sake of their story
 
Yeah, that's sorta my impression. I can't see Marvel being on board for characters like Nina, Batsu, Asura, Ammy, and characters like that in a cinematic story.

If that's the case, I don't give a shit about a story. Arcade Mode would've been just fine.
 
In all honesty, I'm actually kind of glad characters like Viewtiful Joe, Ammy, Tron Bonne, and Phoenix Wright aren't in this so we don't have to see them adapted into the game's awful realistic art style/design.

X and Arthur look awkward in this game as is. I can't imagine what Wright would look like here.
 
Yeah, that's sorta my impression. I can't see Marvel being on board for characters like Nina, Batsu, Asura, Ammy, and characters like that in a cinematic story.

If that's the case, I don't give a shit about a story. Arcade Mode would've been just fine.

That's fine but some of us are actually looking forward to a story-- even if it's just as simple as SFV's story. I'm already spending a lot of time playing other fighters online. Buying this one at severe discount for offline content and if I really, really dig it maybe it'll edge out my current online fighters. But my current feeling is story mode -> tiny bit of online
 
That's fine but some of us are actually looking forward to a story-- even if it's just as simple as SFV's story. I'm already spending a lot of time playing other fighters online. Buying this one at severe discount for offline content and if I really, really dig it maybe it'll edge out my current online fighters. But my current feeling is story mode -> tiny bit of online
Story mode shouldn't limit the character roster in a fighting game imo. Besides, from the looks of the story demo...
 
Story mode shouldn't limit the character roster in a fighting game imo. Besides, from the looks of the story demo...

Well yeah the roster kinda blows we all know that

But these days most gamers expect a story of some sort. I'm actually sort of excited for it.

Disclaimer: I'm psycho for superhero genre though
 
Story mode shouldn't limit the character roster in a fighting game imo. Besides, from the looks of the story demo...

This. I was very disappointed in MvC3 because there was a lot of pre release talk of their being a deep interesting story mode. I was also really looking forward to this game when they talked about story mode. And even if the demo wasn't amazing I was still looking forward to it.

But NOT at the cost of the roster. Especially for a crossover game where the roster is the most important part of the game itself
 
Yeah I get what you guys are saying. How long is Story going to be? Something like 4-5 hrs tops?

By far roster is most important in the long run

worse case scenario: People play through the single player story and then trade in asap. So yeah you want a hard hitting roster I'd be dumb to argue against that lol
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.

"You want our characters, you gotta play ball our way"
 
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Does anyone believe the tone of this game might be why those Clover characters and Phoenix Wright aren't in?

Capcom is Capcom, but I can't seem to shake the feeling that there might be more than meets the eye here.

Yeah. It was actually one of the first things I worried about when seeing the reveal trailer and gameplay vids.

This also extended to Frank West seeing as how unorthodox his moves and mechanic is compared to the others, but finally he did wind up being in. It does leave me with a little bit of hope we might see the others down the line.
 
I think a story mode is a waste of time personally. However, if they could do a proper arcade mode with animated scenes or hell you can use the ingame models to convey a sense of story that would be cool. Imagine A3 when you had a rival to fight on the 4th fight I think it was? And then you had a story fight before the final boss and character specific endings. I think that's more than enough.

But it's whatever I guess people expect a story mode nowadays so what do I know.
 
Does anyone believe the tone of this game might be why those Clover characters and Phoenix Wright aren't in?

Capcom is Capcom, but I can't seem to shake the feeling that there might be more than meets the eye here.

That doesn't make sense when Arthur and Firebrand are still in.
 
Something I find very worrying is the lack of characters (we've yet to see) being shown off.

I hope they ramp up marketing a fuck ton in the coming few weeks. Good lord do they expect to sell just because it has Marvel in the title?
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
I'd imagine that they only have a say in stuff like Demitri's Midnight Bliss or possibly parity in newcomers & whatnot. Otherwise, the Capcom side is on Capcom.
 
Are people thinking we might get a few surprises???

Or are the only characters left in the base roster: Firebrand, Dorm, Monster Hunter, Ghost Rider, and Venom?

Soul Stone trailer with Jedah, Monster Hunter, Firebrand, Dorm, GR, Venom and that's it???

I am hoping for a few more characters in the base... and not just returning MvC3 peeps.

Something to justify a day 1 purchase!
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
Did you just pull a Darkness Illusion?!
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Are people thinking we might get a few surprises???

Or are the only characters left in the base roster: Firebrand, Dorm, Monster Hunter, Ghost Rider, and Venom?

Soul Stone trailer with Jedah, Monster Hunter, Firebrand, Dorm, GR, Venom and that's it???

I am hoping for a few more characters in the base... and not just returning MvC3 peeps.

Something to justify a day 1 purchase!
That's all we're reasonably expecting.
 
I wish Capcom would go the extra mile and add Lilith as the clone in Morrigan's Darkness Illusion and astral vision supers.

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Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.

Maybe I'm crazy but didn't Capcom say Marvel gave input on who they wanted in MvC3 for both Marvel and Capcom sides? Regardless, Marvel had Capcom remove Norimaro from the Western versions of Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter so it's not unheard of.
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.
Morrigan and Jedah were both censored to an extent in this game while SFV continues to get relatively suggestive content.
 
I'm in for the Story Mode too, but it's a bit concerning that we've basically played a quarter of it already.

Yeah, that's sorta my impression. I can't see Marvel being on board for characters like Nina, Batsu, Asura, Ammy, and characters like that in a cinematic story.

If that's the case, I don't give a shit about a story. Arcade Mode would've been just fine.
I know Marvel has influence but this is silly. Marvel pulling cards on Asura and Ammy sounds extreme and a bit beyond their jurisdiction. Those characters are not even that bad or too out of whack.
 
Maybe I missed something, but what makes some people very confident that Marvel has the power to dictate Capcom's side of the roster?

1. Capcom's intellectual property is completely outside of Marvel's purview
2. Marvel isn't the developer.

Period. It's as simple as that.

They probably only really have a say in things that affect their characters or their brand. Certain things, though could be seen as damaging for their brand.

For example if something is too risqué or suggestive in a game where half the cast consists of Marvel characters, there could be objections.

Or for example there could be stipulations on the Capcom roster if they wanted the licence. This is, of course speculation same as your definitive statement.

Of course every time a "leaker" says that Marvel forced Capcom to make their characters ugly to make Marvel characters look good or that they removed characters that were too "superheroic" so that there would be no overlap with Marvel (what?) it's dumb, asinine things added to rile up people and get them angry at the game.

Are people thinking we might get a few surprises???

Or are the only characters left in the base roster: Firebrand, Dorm, Monster Hunter, Ghost Rider, and Venom?

Soul Stone trailer with Jedah, Monster Hunter, Firebrand, Dorm, GR, Venom and that's it???

I am hoping for a few more characters in the base... and not just returning MvC3 peeps.

Something to justify a day 1 purchase!

Yeah, don't expect much more than that.

Morrigan and Jedah were both censored to an extent in this game while SFV continues to get relatively suggestive content.

Morrigan hasn't really been censored more than before. Sure her top covers more but that's how she looked liked in all the CG trailers and diorama scenes for Marvel 3. Although, to be fair, in those Felicia was always covered by something or someone...
 
I wish Capcom would go the extra mile and add Lilith as the clone in Morrigan's Darkness Illusion and astral vision supers.

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I wonder why they didn't use that one in MvC3. Maybe they wanted Morrigan to be closer to her VSav rendition? That would at least explain her beam super getting replaced with the missiles.
 
"You want our characters, you gotta play ball our way"

I'm sure Capcom has an affinity to the Marvel Universe as we all do, but why on earth would they agree to that? It's so disadvantageous on their part. Marvel isn't explicitly contracting Capcom to develop their characters in fighting games, but even if they were, why would Capcom just relinquish their IPs? And when would this have occurred? All the way back in XvSF?

You mean to tell me Marvel has/had a vested interest in Charlie (Nash)? I don't think so.
 
I'm sure Capcom has an affinity to the Marvel Universe as we all do, but why on earth would they agree to that? It's so disadvantageous on their part. Marvel isn't explicitly contracting Capcom to develop their characters in fighting games, but even if they were, why would Capcom just relinquish their IPs? And when would this have occurred? All the way back in XvSF?

You mean to tell me Marvel has/had a vested interest in Charlie (Nash)? I don't think so.

What are you talking about? They didn't relinquish anything. They just have to abide by rules set by Marvel when making products that involve Marvel characters.

You misunderstand how contracts work.
 
Are people actually blaming Marvel instead of Capcom despite Marvel pushing cartoony movies like GotG2 and Thor Ragnarok? All the faults in this game are clearly on Capcom's field; I'm sure they could have included Wolverine if they pushed hard enough.

What are you talking about? They didn't relinquish anything. They just have to abide by rules set by Marvel when making products that involve Marvel characters.

You misunderstand how contracts work.

Are you implying that Marvel requested for Capcom to not include Amaterasu or Joe despite their side featuring Rocket Racoon?
 
Are people actually blaming Marvel instead of Capcom despite Marvel pushing cartoony movies like GotG2 and Thor Ragnarok? All the faults in this game are clearly on Capcom's field; I'm sure they could have included Wolverine if they pushed hard enough.

no they couldnt. I dont put the blame on Marvel on anything Capcom related wise, thats silly, but its clear what happened with the Fox characters just like it happens in EVERY OTHER GAME.
 
All the faults in this game are clearly on Capcom's field; I'm sure they could have included Wolverine if they pushed hard enough.
No and hell no.

Sure, Capcom sucks at this art style, but who do you think made them do it? If they wanted the easy way, this game would've looked just like MvC3.
 
Was MVC3 the first game in the series to have Random/Random All on the character select screen?

I wonder if its possible it won't be in this time. Or I guess that's just something that's just a given for fighters now
 
Are people actually blaming Marvel instead of Capcom despite Marvel pushing cartoony movies like GotG2 and Thor Ragnarok? All the faults in this game are clearly on Capcom's field; I'm sure they could have included Wolverine if they pushed hard enough.



Are you implying that Marvel requested for Capcom to not include Amaterasu or Joe despite their side featuring Rocket Racoon?

What? No, not at all. What the heck are you on?

When the initial deal for Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite was made, Marvel was still in their "let's not acknowledge X-Men and F4" phase. That may be going away, but Marvel absolutely decides which of their characters appear and the deals had already been signed. Capcom could have pushed as hard as they wanted but it would have never happened.

And I don't think anyone here even implied that Amaterasu and Joe don't feature in this game because of Marvel. All I was saying is that Marvel could absolutely have some say in the number or types of characters included.
 
If you just believe hard enough you can overcome corporate battles.

Capcom "come on guyz, Gaf really wants those X-Men"
Marvel Corporate Lawyers "oh ok well if Gaf wants it"
 
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