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Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite sells 1/10th of MvC3's debut in Japan, 1/6th Pokken DX
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Undead Fantasy
Member
How is that Jackpot that screenshot has DLC in it plus it's still less characters. But anyways I realize Smash fans think its the best game ever and I don't blame you it's really good. I wonder is it coming to the Switch at some point but I digress
I want this game soooooo bad
Can't blame Disney for Capcom's side of the roster though.
Even after the leaked roster seemed definite, I was still on board, providing that the likes of Panther and Monster Hunter were on the base roster.
...and then they were both confirmed to be a part of the season pass, with Sigma.
I couldn't see myself buying the game as it is now, with only one character that I was interested in playing, per the horrible demo (re: X). And definitely couldn't see paying $90+ for the "hope" that the season pass characters will be more to my liking.
The combat is fun, but it's just not enough, simply put. Maybe I'll change my mind by the time all the Season Pass content is out and the game is cheaper, but it's not like there won't be other games for me to play.
Dragonball FighterZ being one of them...
I really enjoy MvCI and recommend it but when DBZF drops I'm definitely giving it a shot. I love the series (well ASW games along with old PS2-era games) and it has all the Z fighters I want in the base roster
MvCI base roster has so many puzzling choices on Capcom side. But since I havent played since MvC2 I admit I am interested in probably at least 85% of the base roster which says something
Yeah hiding Black Panther behind DLC was a tough pill to swallow. I still got Deluxe because I'm a superhero/anime nutcase but I can see others with stronger willpower easily passing up this gem covered in crust
MvCI base roster has so many puzzling choices on Capcom side. But since I havent played since MvC2 I admit I am interested in probably at least 85% of the base roster which says something
Yeah hiding Black Panther behind DLC was a tough pill to swallow. I still got Deluxe because I'm a superhero/anime nutcase but I can see others with stronger willpower easily passing up this gem covered in crust
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Now was the perfect opportunity to make MvC4 with the MCU and all its characters at the peak of their popularity right now and they fucked it up.
CertifiedFP
Member
Man, I wonder how true that rumor of Marvel telling Capcom to make their side of the roster look like crap (and be lower tier as some people have observed in gameplay) was.
Karsticles
Member
Dante is one of the best characters in the game.
That I agree with 100%.
Capcom could have done a lot better on their side. But when I see complaints of no Xmen or other Marvel properties, I think Disney really stepped in and wanted to promote certain characters over others.
I doubt that rumor even holds water and I'm pretty sure Marvel only gives a shit about their half of the roster and who can and cant be there. I'd doubt they even have a say on who can and cant appear on the Capcom side anyway. Capcom's side roster choices are on Capcom alone.
1000% false.
direct_quote
Member
Lol why would you even believe such a rumor?
Jawmuncher
Member
I think they can to capcom to an extent.
For example Jedah not having actual blood this time around or Demittri coming back with actual midnight bliss.
Zombegoast
Member
At this point, Capcom are just throwing darts in the dark in what to do next.
SFV is still plagued with issues since release and they expect things will be better once they release a new game.
Combofiend use to love to talk about SFV but the negative criticism happened and we rarely see him.
SFV is still plagued with issues since release and they expect things will be better once they release a new game.
Combofiend use to love to talk about SFV but the negative criticism happened and we rarely see him.
Combofiend malfunctioned.
Jawmuncher
Member
Combofiend stays away from talking about MVC as well after his function talk
Stallion Dan
Member
Less characters than 3, £25 season pass attached, boring MCU roster with both sides lacking fan favourites. Still lacking content compared to other fighters.
What is to be hyped for?
Eh. Namco also made some big mistakes with the latest entries of its main fighting game series
Yeah, they basically drove the Soul Edge series into the ground game after game. Their first two were good, and every entry after Calibur just got worse and worse. God, some of the characters got stupid too...
Maybe that is for the best...
Stone Ocean
Member
A severe price drop.
Gunslinger
Member
I am almost sure Disney/Marvel had no saying on what character Capcom can put or can't put for capcom side of the Roster. Therefore the Roster we got is just lazy rehash or budget constraints. This is a low budget title and it shows.
No say other than telling them X-Men weren't allowed to make the cut, right?
He said the Capcom side, not the Marvel side. It's clear to most of us that Marvel Entertainment's hands were all over the Marvel side of the roster.
As much as I do have beef with Bamco for what they did to Soul Calibur, I do have to give it up for them trying their hand at another collab with Nintendo and TPC (Pokken), and especially what they're doing with Arc and DBFZ.
After Super DBZ tanked a long time ago, and Xenoverse seemed to be the path we could expect for DB console games, I would never have expected anyone to try their hand with a competitive vs. arcade style Dragonball fighter ever again.
When was X-men characters from capcom owned?
This remains my biggest pet peeve with the gameplay. It's like Capcom changed the controls for the sake of it just so people wouldn't have something else to throw into the ”recycled from MvC3" complaint pile.
LMH: light attacks, medium attacks, and hard/heavy attacks. For special moves with directional variants, L corresponds to low, M to mid, and H to high. It's perfect — poetry, even. The S button is used for launchers, flight, and other special functions like stances. You know exactly what you're getting when you push a button in MvC3.
LP/HP/LK/HK is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Most of the LKs really just feel like MKs. Unlike Street Fighter, an overwhelming majority of the moves in this game involve energy blasts and weapons, rendering the ”punch" and ”kick" designations utterly arbitrary, adding to the confusion. And the P and K designations aren't even consistent within a single character's move set! Ryu's Shoryuken is performed with DP + P, so surely his Shin Shoryuken is performed with DP + PP, right? No, the Shin Shoryuken is performed with QCF + KK. What a mess.
As a casual (bad) fighting game player, I was able to memorize a single MvC3 character's move set after one or two fights. I've been playing MvCI for two weeks and I still can't remember whether certain special moves or hyper combos are mapped to P or K or if they use down down inputs. I still don't know which teleport location is mapped to which button. I can't even begin to imagine how alienated actual beginners must feel. The controls just aren't intuitive at all. As a pad player, it feels like I'm operating a plane just doing basic Firebrand movements that I had no problem with in MvC3.
While I think most of the gameplay complaints are overblown, this is definitely true. Dormammu doesn't even have kicks, so why is there still a kick notation for him? God knows that you're going to get out of most of those moves. Agreed on the teleports as well, it seems almost arbitrary where you're going to end up.
Stallion Dan
Member
I'm pretty sure Disney/Marvel would require some kind of say in who their characters are presented with.
Not saying they picked Capcoms roster, but for sure had to yes/no those Capcom presented.
Strangelove77
Member
Capcom's roster is such shit. Marvel's side looks just fine without the Xmen, but there are so many unpopular b listers on the Capcom roster. I wouldn't play with half of them.
On the other hand I think Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Gamora are pretty cool new additions that I'd really like to try.
Such a small roster too. At the end of the day there just aren't enough characters I care to play with. It's a shame.
Also - the game looks like ass, which is something I wouldn't say about UMvC3 or SF5.
Hopefully it's less than $20 by Black Friday.
On the other hand I think Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Gamora are pretty cool new additions that I'd really like to try.
Such a small roster too. At the end of the day there just aren't enough characters I care to play with. It's a shame.
Also - the game looks like ass, which is something I wouldn't say about UMvC3 or SF5.
Hopefully it's less than $20 by Black Friday.
Yeah you know the movelists in this game seem kind of random with how they work.
Linkstrikesback
Member
It may well be, you can get the steam keys for £15.99 on cdkeys already.
But it did sell. It's top 5 in Japan. I think people are exaggerating things quite a bit (and/or misinformed). It's merely beaten by Pokken
It's a good game with a plain outer shell. Definitely not a 'crap game'
Well pretty every fighting game out there has inferior roster to MvC2 pretty much (in regards to pure numbers & probably brand recognition). Unfortunately as tech advanced, games have actually devolved, gotten more expensive, and come with less features (not across the board, but in some cases)
MvC2 was a masterpiece with over 50 characters and you could play it at your local Arcade the way God intended
Come at me bro, nothing can touch this
I loved MVC2 but the only thing new about it was the UI, 3D backrounds and only some sprites. Otherwise they were all reused elements of previous games just like CVSnK and CVSnK 2
Games these days could not really get away with that.
Any mistakes they have made with Tekken 7 is vastly overshadowed with what it does well IMO. Although i think their handling of soul calibur is more suspect.
Soul Blade and Soul Calibur 1 were the apex of the series.
Soul Calibur 2 was merely a refined copy of 1.
Soul Calibur 3 changed some stuff up and had some bugs but was generally fine.
Soul Calibur 4 significantly turned on the nonsense boobage fanservice and slowed the game down while introducing silly guest characters while taking out mission mode.
SC5 was a trainwreck where they destroyed the entire setting, introduced a whole bunch of garbage versions of better previous characters, and ironically enough was only released half finished to begin with...it was a joke.
I think fighting games should try to keep old cast and keep building upon the foundation. But I realize not everyone feels that way. For example, those other games you mention I never played. I just played the heck out of MvC1 & 2 so too me this was such a great game and the future for fighting games looked so bright. I neevr would predict fighting games rosters would actually get smaller and charge extra on top of that for dudes.
I'd rather reuse content straight up.
This applies to Injustice 2 as well. I would love to have Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Deathstroke, and some others return straight up. Don't change nothing. Just add more polygons and bloat out these rosters more. Take some shortcuts sure and maybe refine them later (ala League of Legends where they reboot their old characters later which works fine for long running games)
I admit to not knowing actual numbers I must concede to defeat on that point. I'd still say MvCI is not a crap game. Just a great game surrounded by some crap? Does that make a game crappy? Crap I dont know anymore.
Good post. There's so much wrong with ditching LMHS it's not even funny. You didn't mention extra command normals... A move like Wesker's crouching M would have to be df+HP in this game.
Some things puzzle me like the L3 hypers. I wish it was the same motion for every character to do their L3. But sometimes its qcf and other times its qcb. Also wish I could map a button for 'Flight'. That would be amazing.
secretanchitman
Member
I couldn't put it into words but these are exactly my thoughts. I was wrestling with the controls for hours with every mode and character I tried. MVC3 had the controls down perfectly - they flow and fit like poetry as you said.
MVCI's controls are like playing musical chairs blindfolded with someone pushing you all the time. I literally cannot get used to them and they are so unintuitive. I may be a casual player that uses a pad but the controls need to be solid in order for me to get longevity out of the game.
Ill still play this game and try to figure out the controls for a while but if I cant, Im just going to leave the newbie controls on (easy hyper combo, auto combo, and auto super jump).
JeTmAn81
Member
After about a week it felt fairly natural to me and I am Marvel 3 vet.
clarknova156
Member
Good frankly. Capcom sucks at fighting games now. They released not even a half done SF5. MvCi has the worst roster of the entire series with what might be the the worst collectors edition of all time.
I bought this game thinking it might have some redeeming qualities but in the end the fact that they expected 2 million in sales shows how insane Capcom has become. Whatever magic they had with fighting games is gone.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The only complaint is that it doesn't make the game simple to play. lol