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Marvel's Shang-Chi Will Only Be Theatrical Exclusive for 45 Days Before Disney+
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I'm not complaining because I prefer to watch these at home with my own food, but this whole thing is going to single handedly kill the theater industry. Aside from major stuff like Marvel movies and other family related releases most people will just wait to watch at home rather than go through the trouble of the traffic, the parking, the tickets, the expensive food, finding seats, etc etc
Why do any of that when you can just wait a month or so and have your own food on your own couch for cheaper?
Why do any of that when you can just wait a month or so and have your own food on your own couch for cheaper?
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nush
Gold Member
The experience isn't the same.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You're right. It's better.
MaestroMike
Gold Member
I wonder which movie is going to be the first to gross over $1 billion in box office its gotta be a Disney movie Avatar 2 maybe?
Susurrus
Member
MCU movies have widespread spoilers within a week at most as memes.
I collect VHS tapes
Member
Had I been lucky enough to run into a Black Widow spoiler I might have known better than to watch that piece of trash.
Are people seriously afraid of MCU spoilers? That’s a thing?
CrankyJay™
Member
Resetera: that’s a racist dog whistle.
sol_bad
Member
Why would this even be hard to understand? People don't like being spoiled on things. I hate that TRoS, Masters of the Universe and TLOU2 were all spoiled before release.
I collect VHS tapes
Member
I don't understand the source of the fear. I watched many of the MCU movies years after they were released and managed to avoid any spoilers with zero effort.
Being legit afraid to wait 45 days to watch a movie out of fear of it being spoiled sounds ridiculous to me.
EDIT: I should add that it's a fucking MCU movie. I wouldn't give a shit if someone spoiled it. At best we're talking about mediocre popcorn films.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Okay?
nush
Gold Member
For some people is seems to be. The same people that claim even a trailer for a movie is a spolier...
I collect VHS tapes
Member
I plan on going to theaters that play weird shit or old movies.
I used to go to Tarantino's theater the New Bev a lot and plan on continuing that. He recently just took over another theater even closer to me. I'll likely frequent that as well.
Some other random theater down the street from me is having a James Gunn series in a week or so. I'll probably go to catch The Belko Experiment on the big screen.
But yeah, I don't really plan on going to the theater for new releases.
EDIT: Looks like the James Gunn event is part of Beyond Fest
GUNNZO: THE SPECTACULAR CHAOS OF JAMES GUNN - American Cinematheque
americancinematheque.com
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I collect VHS tapes
Member
I don't go out of my way to watch trailers but I wouldn't lose my shit if I caught one inadvertently.
sol_bad
Member
Why should it matter or change anything if it's MCU related?
I see all the MCU movies first week they come out because I love them, I'm invested in the universe, of course I'll care about spoilers. I go opening week because I love the atmosphere when seeing a film with 300+ other fans. I love the theatre experience, the home experience will never compare. I did watch Black Widow at home though because it's lock down here, I didn't want those end credit scenes spoiled and lots of Youtube channels were starting to talk about it.
farmerboy
Member
I collect VHS tapes
Member
I hate this post.
nush
Gold Member
It's true, I've only ever seen MCU movies in the theater in China, there's still that same buzz. It's really a global brand.
sol_bad
Member
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Why?
ArgleBargleFooferah
Banned
Sweet, I can just read the spoilers like I did for Black Widow. They're not even worth pirating at this point.
ManaByte
Member
How’s it going, Reality Czar.
nush
Gold Member
It's a social event, a night out compared to renting a movie from Blockbusters and staying in. It's part of our culture, like going to see live sports events or concerts.
ArgleBargleFooferah
Banned
Fuck off
Javthusiast
Banned
45 days is nothing. I can easily wait and watch it for "free" on D+.
farmerboy
Member
Especially if they serve food and drink in cinema, you got the big screen, the big sound and food delivered to your seat. I think it's great.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Well that's down to personal opinion.
Personally, I'd rather take my family to a big film, like Dune for example, on a IMAX than watch it at home. It'll be far more expensive, but it'll also be a better experience than watching it on my home TV.
jonnyp
Member
True, with a proper AV setup it is better.
sol_bad
Member
No it shouldn't. The home market makes a fraction of profits compared to the theatrical market.
Kenpachii
Member
U mean less shitty cgi in movies and actual having to relay on actors being good at acting. i am all for it.
sol_bad
Member
I'm talking about any movie that is made and released for theatrical purposes.
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Soodanim
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I like the cinema, but I don’t like people at the cinema. I once leaned over a girl I was with to say to someone “What the fuck is wrong with you?” after either the cunt or his or his cunt kids’ phones went off for the fourth time during Guardians of the Galaxy. The girl really wasn’t happy with me, but I wasn’t happy that some rude, considerate fucks didn’t silence their phones. If your phone needs to be on loud, fuck off out the cinema and comes back when it doesn’t.
I like to go a couple weeks later when numbers have dropped off. Ideally in the morning when at most there’s 2 other people in there, and they have the same mindset as I do.
At home I’m on 1080p screens and it’s not quite the same, but the conveniences and lower cost make up for it.
I like to go a couple weeks later when numbers have dropped off. Ideally in the morning when at most there’s 2 other people in there, and they have the same mindset as I do.
At home I’m on 1080p screens and it’s not quite the same, but the conveniences and lower cost make up for it.
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Kenpachii
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I'm talking about any movie that is made and released for theatrical purposes.
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Whats this supposed to mean?
U can still go to the cinema if you want, get it on stream box at day one also.
sol_bad
Member
It means that if you do day and date cinema and home, the box office gets cannibalised. This means less money made, less money to the studios, less profit, less budget for future movies.
The Green Knight.
Budget of 15 million. Currently 13 million at the box office. Slim chance of making money.
If it was release theatrically and at home simultaneously it would have made even less money.
mcjmetroid
Member
This is the problem With their steaming service again though. How can you take Disney+ seriously when unlike Amazon and Netflix. They're not releasing their content day 1 on their own subscription service?
Cyberpunkd
Member
It’s for theatres to figure it out, not for people who as you mentioned prefer more comfortable setting at home.
sol_bad
Member
Amazon and Netflix are only getting the off cuts from studios that have lost faith in their project.
Take Amazon and The Tomorrow War, Paramount spent 200 million producing the film, Amazon then bought it off them for 200 million and released it on their platform because releasing it theatrically was too risky, they would have had to spend millions more on marketing. They are in talks for making a sequel but if it gets made I'm guessing it will get a theatrical release first or it's budget will get heavily slashed.
I have no idea how Amazon would even decide if they made money on it or not. Wikipedia says that 2.41 million households watched the film. If we base that on Prime memberships ($9USD a month?) that's about 22 million dollars worth of monthly subs. Wiki also says that it has had 1.2 billion minutes of viewership, equal to 885,507 total watches. If we convert those watches to movie ticket value ($15USD a ticket?) it's worth about 13 million dollars.
Looking at these basic numbers it looks like they lost a fuck tonne of money.
Kenpachii
Member
Doesn't stop netflix tho.
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/netflix-knives-out-sequels-450-million-deal-1234627266/
Also budget costs are mostly cgi and actor costs. they can adjust accordingly to new price models.
sol_bad
Member
That's Netflix being extremely stupid. They spent 150 million on 6 Underground and lost money on that project. There is no way they are making money on Knives Out 2 and 3.
Knives Out 1 cost 40 million to make.
How are you determining this?
Lupingosei
Banned
For whom is this movie exactly intended? Asians do not care, because the movie was made by Americans and it will not even be released in China.
The general audience does not care about the IP, not even comic fans really did in the last 10 years.
And the movie probably still costs about 200 million. They lost money on Black Widow, so how is this going to work out?
The general audience does not care about the IP, not even comic fans really did in the last 10 years.
And the movie probably still costs about 200 million. They lost money on Black Widow, so how is this going to work out?
sol_bad
Member
It's not getting a sequel. No matter how shitty a movie may appear to be, if it makes bank it's going to get a sequel, case in point Transformers 3, 4 and 5.
Ryan Reynolds' 6 Underground sequel gets disappointing update
"There just wasn't that deep love for those characters or that world."
www.digitalspy.com
*EDIT*
And I actually loved 6 Underground and was hoping it would be a franchise.
LOL
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