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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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GaviotaGrande
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Nymphae
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I am still not even remotely tired of the way he handles these people. "You oughta be ashamed of yourself"
cryptoadam
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Thats why I think that nations should announce their negative test outcomes. We are doing that here in my province. They just accounced 7K negative tests.
Looking at Korea they seem to have a 2.9% positive rate
| Period (since 3 Jan) | Total | ||||||
| Confirmed | Tested positive | Tested negative | |||||
| As of 0:00 19 March (Thurs) | 307,024 | 8,565 | 1,947 | 6,527 | 91 | 15,904 | 282,555 |
| As of 0:00 20 March (Fri) | 316,664 | 8,652 | 2,233 | 6,325 | 94 | 15,525 | 292,487 |
| Change | +9,640 | +87 | +286 | -202 | +3 | -379 | +9,932 |
Not sure though what these numbers tell us. I assume if you test negative today you can easily test positive tomorrow?
But it seems to be a thing world wide that 96-99% of tests come back negative.
Jooxed
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Aren’t you supposed to be playing animal crossing?passed yesterday's numbers. Germany is not slowing down
Coronavirus Update (Live): 131,897,800 Cases and 2,865,517 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...www.worldometers.info
Cybrwzrd
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Fuck the Chinese News Network.
rykomatsu
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Every death is a tragedy, but the world is not on fire.The world is on fire...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Good grief, I hope their pageviews are worth contributing to panic.
Smiles and Cries
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I'm suppose to be sleeping
Captain Smoker
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I love how this thread wanks to Trumps edgelord comments on reporters, while ignoring that this dude and his administration are responsible for the slow response in America, fucking over Millions of people in the end, while also fueling the sentiment of "It's just a flu bro" in the beginning.
Aged like fine wine.
Quoting CNN news headlines won't bring you less cases & deaths, an administration handling this crisis like grown ups will.
Aged like fine wine.
Quoting CNN news headlines won't bring you less cases & deaths, an administration handling this crisis like grown ups will.
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Croatoan
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Captain Zyrain
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I think it's a much more serious problem... but this shit by the media isn't helping anything.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
I loathe the media.
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Good lord...
"We're going to try out this medication and see if it works. We don't know for sure, but I have a good feeling it could help."
Headline: Trump peddles unsubstantiated hope in dark times
I mean, this has got to be one of the more blatant examples of TDS I've ever seen.
Good lord...
"We're going to try out this medication and see if it works. We don't know for sure, but I have a good feeling it could help."
Headline: Trump peddles unsubstantiated hope in dark times
I mean, this has got to be one of the more blatant examples of TDS I've ever seen.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
part of his job is to contain panic.. you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes.. they had to revamp the whole testing process
same concept when he talks about his love letters to North Korea.. you really think he’s in love?
there’s always another layer to this
Yes that does look bad, and aged poorly. But his actions have spoken louder than tweets, and he wasn't the only one at that point making claims like that.
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lifa-cobex
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Cybrwzrd
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Ahh, I remember you. Back again to push the Chinese narrative that the US is bungling this?
Liljagare
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US has far more ICU beds per capita though. Hospital beds can be increased as needed.
It's these types of articles that I think are trying to promote fear. You should be careful posting them.
This is also why I think UK is fucked and I don't believe the china numbers (I do tend to believe their percentages though. I just think they have under reported everything with one less 0.)
Wierd, USA is reported at 2.8 per capita most everything I read about it, and looking at that graph, look at the dates, I've never seen any data this high, what is going on in this picture?
USA at, 2.8, 2.89, 2,29 avaiable beds per capita, looking at various sites, always.
Is www.statista.com a reliable source?
Though, looking at the source data, this graph shows number of ICU beds per 100000.
Not the same thing (Source: OECD – Acute Care Beds & OECD – Acute Care Bed Utilization ).
Here's why experts are worried we won't have enough hospital beds to handle a surge of coronavirus patients
The US has fewer hospital beds per 1,000 people compared to places like Japan, South Korea, and Italy that have also been hit hard by the virus.
www.businessinsider.com
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Cybrwzrd
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Wierd, USA is reported at 2.8, and looking at that graph, look at the dates, I've never seen any data this high, what is going on in this picture?
Hospital beds per capita - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker
Country comparison:www.healthsystemtracker.org
Japan
13.1
Germany
8.1
Austria
7.4
France
6.1
Belgium
5.7
Comparable Country Average
5.4
Switzerland
4.6
Australia
3.8
Netherlands
3.6
United States
2.8
Canada
2.6
United Kingdom
2.6
Sweden
2.3
Critical Care and total beds are different things. The US medical system pretty much tries to get you out of the hospital and home quickly. Places like Japan follow a long hospitalization philosophy.
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
ICU != Hospital beds. You cannot quickly increase ICU beds, you can drastically increase hospital beds with tents, ships, and take over of other buildings in a very short time .Wierd, USA is reported at 2.8, and looking at that graph, look at the dates, I've never seen any data this high, what is going on in this picture?
Hospital beds per capita - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker
Country comparison:
Japan
13.1
Germany
8.1
Austria
7.4
France
6.1
Belgium
5.7
Comparable Country Average
5.4
Switzerland
4.6
Australia
3.8
Netherlands
3.6
United States
2.8
Canada
2.6
United Kingdom
2.6
Sweden
2.3
The US has a lot more ICU beds than hospital beds for this reason.
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Captain Zyrain
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Como se dice COUGH en espanol?
Insane Metal
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904 cases in Brazil with 11 deaths. Just a few days ago there were 120 cases. This is going faster than Italy and our government has been slow as hell to deal with this.
Health minister already said the health system will be absolutely overwhelmed by the end of April. (IMO it will be earlier than that).
Chaos is coming.
Health minister already said the health system will be absolutely overwhelmed by the end of April. (IMO it will be earlier than that).
Chaos is coming.
Dural
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I'm in Illinois and my boss just said we're working as usual next week. Not sure what exactly the stay at home directive has changed, I don't see how we could be considered essential.
rykomatsu
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So a bit of a question regarding 2 week shelter / quarantines...
After 2 weeks, if you have light symptoms, what do you do? No one has really provided much guidance.
I'm sure there will be people at the end of week 2 that are getting better, but possibly still shedding virus that will just go out and go to the most populated place possible to celebrate (for example).
There are a bunch of edge cases where this will get really really screwy and unsuccessful imho
After 2 weeks, if you have light symptoms, what do you do? No one has really provided much guidance.
I'm sure there will be people at the end of week 2 that are getting better, but possibly still shedding virus that will just go out and go to the most populated place possible to celebrate (for example).
There are a bunch of edge cases where this will get really really screwy and unsuccessful imho
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
You stay at home. This two week business is just to ease us into longer quarantines in some areas. I fully expect NY to be lockdown for 1-2 months.
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Captain Smoker
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It's clear as a day that Trump didn't take this shit serious at all, trying to ignore it in the hope that this crisis somehow vanishes from itself. This works for political opponents because his base doesn't care about them anyway, but this won't work for a virus.
Thank God he changed his mind at least, because he is just stubborn.
America is going to have massive fucking problems, far more than we here in Europe.
I just can't believe my eyes that 1/3 of this thread are about some fucked up ideological warfare between Republicans and Democrats, trying to out-edgelord each other and shift blame wherever possible while the virus is just going to wreck your healthcare system, wreck your jobs and wreck this useless administration that tried to ignore the problem like the Chinese Government (fair enough, they even tried to cover it up).
And even the administrator of this page posts selective headlines that do jackshit to improve your situation and fuel the sentiment of divide.
The same dude that made that CNN headline also wrote this article, guess it wasn't posted as look-at-the-media.jpeg
Trump, finally, takes the coronavirus emergency seriously
(CNN)This version of Donald Trump will save lives.
Trump, finally, takes the coronavirus emergency seriously | CNN Politics
President Trump offered Americans something they have rarely seen from him in his latest and most somber press conference yet on the coronavirus pandemic on Monday.
edition.cnn.com
holygeesus
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You can doubt the seriousness of this disease how you see fit, but when total circus clowns like Trump and Johnson start to take it seriously, it is time to worry.
Halo is Back
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Already at over 11K dead.....Im starting to get worried for my family now.
llien
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You are looking at wrong stats...
TheSadRanger
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Me: I really wanna get Animal Crossing but I can save $10 if I pick it up at Wal-Mart, but it's also probably the most likely place to catch the coronavirus and there's confirmed cases in my county.
Jooxed
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Me: I really wanna get Animal Crossing but I can save $10 if I pick it up at Wal-Mart, but it's also probably the most likely place to catch the coronavirus and there's confirmed cases in my county.
roll the dice, worth.
Forsete
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Sweden is starting to take off exponentially too
1623 cases, 16 dead, up by 33% in a day.
Tegnell said yesterday that over 100 000 could be infected. Would not surprise me the least.
I am bracing myself for the deaths that are about to happen.
Hopefully this will be a wake up call for all of us.
National sufficiency is a must, EU doesn't mean shit when the shit hits the fan. EU is dead to me now, and so is globalism. Fuck that.
High taxes should mean dependable health care, not a health care run on a skeleton crew.
Totalförsvaret needs to be reinstated.
Reinstate "k-företag".
No time for luxury, no more gender bullshit studies, no more HBTQ+-certificates. And that's just the beginning. There are sweet monies to be saved in many places.
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Captain Zyrain
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Where do we see violence first?
Liljagare
Member
So, are theese active beds?
And there is still something off here, "However, there are fewer than 100,000 ICU beds in the United States, according to a recent analysis by Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. ".
Too many coronavirus patients, too few ventilators: Outlook in US could get bad, quickly
As we face potentially 'the largest workforce crisis in our generation,' hospitals are bracing for ventilator shortages amid the coronavirus outbreak.
eu.usatoday.com
Ah, it's counting every bed collecting dust all over, not a good statistic to count at all:
"
Although the survey is a decade old and hospitals have added ventilators to their stockpile, "we figure that supply is less than 100,000 in this country," said Timothy Myers, a respiratory therapist and chief business officer of the American Association for Respiratory Care, which contributed to the survey.
"The number of ventilators pretty much mirrors the number of ICU beds in this country," Myers said. "The problem is a lot of these patients are being ventilated for numerous days. Some are off in three to four days. Others are on for several weeks. That is where you get the supply-demand issue."
The American Hospital Association estimates 960,000 Americans could need mechanical help to breathe during the coronavirus pandemic.
But even if hospitals pull out-of-date ventilators from storage and repurpose other machines to pitch in, there would only be enough devices and trained experts to treat 135,000 patients at a time, according to a paper the Society of Critical Care Medicine released Friday.
"
The 2.8 per capita figure is looking correct again.
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It's clear as a day that Trump didn't take this shit serious at all, trying to ignore it in the hope that this crisis somehow vanishes from itself. This works for political opponents because his base doesn't care about them anyway, but this won't work for a virus.
Thank God he changed his mind at least, because he is just stubborn.
America is going to have massive fucking problems, far more than we here in Europe.
I just can't believe my eyes that 1/3 of this thread are about some fucked up ideological warfare between Republicans and Democrats, trying to out-edgelord each other and shift blame wherever possible while the virus is just going to wreck your healthcare system, wreck your jobs and wreck this useless administration that tried to ignore the problem like the Chinese Government (fair enough, they even tried to cover it up).
And even the administrator of this page posts selective headlines that do jackshit to improve your situation and fuel the sentiment of divide.
The same dude that made that CNN headline also wrote this article, guess it wasn't posted as look-at-the-media.jpeg
Trump, finally, takes the coronavirus emergency seriously
(CNN)This version of Donald Trump will save lives.
Trump, finally, takes the coronavirus emergency seriously | CNN Politics
President Trump offered Americans something they have rarely seen from him in his latest and most somber press conference yet on the coronavirus pandemic on Monday.
I posted a headline, get a grip. Between this and your other trash today, we’ve filled our mentally unhinged Reeeeturner quota.
Birdo
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Walmart.
AsylumKeeper
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EU is dead to you now? Yeah ... cool.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
What are the right stats?
Captain Zyrain
Member
Man, Germany +4,528 so far today.. 19,848 cases and only 68 deaths. 0.3% CFR! I wonder if they can keep that up? I feel like the caseload is exploding.
Forsete
Gold Member
Yes.
Sweden had ordered medical equipment from German companies when COVID-19 broke out.
What happened? Export was refused.
Why? Because Germany would need it.
Eventually (after many critical days) after negotiation it was released. Sweden during this time experienced shortage which meant that the health care had to reuse already spent medical equipment.
EU is nothing but expensive bureaucracy. After all this is over, the fat cats should be cut from the teat.
Edit: I see now that you are Swedish. You should already know all of this. När var sista gången du läste om hur EU hjälpt någon i detta? Kina har gjort mer för Italien än vad EU gjort.
Blir gärna motbevisad. Men jag tror att måttet är rågat när det gäller många européers tålamod vad gäller EU. Vi lär snart få veta detta i vilket fall.
Som någon sade "Vad fan får jag för pengarna?" Byråkrati är svaret min vän.
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Setzer
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Agreed. On average 150k people die everyday. It sucks that some of them are to COVID-19 but life goes on.
Captain Zyrain
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