Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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Yeah fuck they just walked out of there and left them to die.
Now the police is investigating.
Horrible.

Disgusting and makes me ashamed to be from this province.

there better be hell to pay for this. My grandma is in a senior residence (tested negative thank god) and I can't imagine if she lived in this place.
 
Disgusting and makes me ashamed to be from this province.

there better be hell to pay for this. My grandma is in a senior residence (tested negative thank god) and I can't imagine if she lived in this place.
I hope they all get busted and locked up.

Get the rest of them outta there and put them in good care.

This in this country is unheard off
 
It's difficult to directly receive the raw data to study if Japanese hospitalizations/senior fatality rate number change from January to March compared to the historical record.
Remember, U.S had a flatter curve of cov-19 death toll and hospitalization rate from January 20 to late February compare to South Korea too.(That's because U.S did not test enough) Even in extreme cases like Wuhan and NYC, hospitals only got overwhelmed after the public were alarmed enough (by the lock-down)and received massive testing: (1)media started to extensively cover the outbreak (2)then the public floored to get tested(3)the death were correctly categorized as cov-19 infection . But in early days, NYC and Wuhan patients started to die long before lock-down took place, many of death were just not categorized by cov-19 because they did not get tested. We might observe Japan's cases number in the coming weeks.

I hope I am wrong, I hope Japan have the virus under control sooner and better.


The JPN version of that has been up for a while - I think Tokyo and Aichi were at 110% capacity not too long after / before the Olympics got postponed.
 
I don't want to come off as alarmist but ya food supplies are going to become a thing.





18 months of lockdown will starve the world.
 
Not good. The food industry should be some of the first people to get this antibody test.

If I recall, the power industry started identifying healthy staff that could run the power grid, and started isolating them from everyone else, bringing in cots to sleep at the power plants and supplies so they could continue to work uninterrupted even if the non-isolated staff started getting sick. These kind of processes should have probably started at some of the major food suppliers as well.


Aren't there 10mil unemployed at the moment...? (sorry, going off title since the article is behind paywall, so making an assumption that there are a lack of seasonal workers)
 
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I don't want to come off as alarmist but ya food supplies are going to become a thing.





18 months of lockdown will starve the world.

I think people are starting to get real sick of overpaid failed actors on cable news in their mansions and still getting paid telling people who can't work and can't afford to pay for rent or food that they have to continue staying inside.
 
Aren't there 10mil unemployed at the moment...? (sorry, going off title since the article is behind paywall, so making an assumption that there are a lack of seasonal workers)
We need to do what Britain did, just hire your own.


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If I recall, the power industry started identifying healthy staff that could run the power grid, and started isolating them from everyone else, bringing in cots to sleep at the power plants and supplies so they could continue to work uninterrupted even if the non-isolated staff started getting sick. These kind of processes should have probably started at some of the major food suppliers as well.



Aren't there 10mil unemployed at the moment...? (sorry, going off title since the article is behind paywall, so making an assumption that there are a lack of seasonal workers)

There are alot unemployed people that will need jobs, but are these people able to work during the lockdown?

And this doesn't take into account products that aren't made in your country. What if that country stays in lockdown or stops exporting a certain food?

Governments are going to have to figure out a way to keep food supply chains going. And if things get bad in the West, then poorer countries are going to be 10 times worse.
 
Aren't there 10mil unemployed at the moment...? (sorry, going off title since the article is behind paywall, so making an assumption that there are a lack of seasonal workers)

Marketplace:
16.9 million people have filed jobless claims since layoffs and shutdowns related to the COVID-19 pandemic started spreading nationwide. Nearly one out of 10 people who had a job to go to before the pandemic doesn't have one now.
 
If a public health restriction is placed at a local or state level then no, Trump doesn't have the legal authority to reverse those decisions.

The guy keeps repeating that he couldn't close down any cities/states because of the constitution.
But then we're supposed to believe that he has a specific right to overturn mayors/governors, and reopen cities and states?

There's just no logical way that both of those things can be true, and when you consider the source, you know that neither is.
 
By the way, in regards to the "food shortages" fears, companies actually have more food to throw away than they can grow.


Dairy farmers are dumping giant loads of milk down the drain as the coronavirus crisis spoils demand for products like butter and cheese.

Farmers say they've been left with nowhere to send their raw milk now that widespread closures of schools, restaurants and other businesses have shut dairy processors out of some of their largest markets.

That means some farmers have no choice but to let their milk gush out of giant tanks and go to waste, according to recent videos posted to social media.

"Watching your hard work literally go down the drain is heart wrenching — the wasted product represents our livelihood and the massive amount of hard work that takes place year round to produce it," Nikki Boxler, whose family runs the Boxler Dairy Farm in upstate New York, wrote in a Sunday Facebook

We're not going to starve.
 
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I got mild fever and body pain for last two and a half days (couldn´t sleep two nights because of how hot I was feeling). But it´s gone now, I started to feel good by afternoon yesterday, slept very well at night and I feel great today. I was hoping it wasn´t the real thing, now I wish it was the real thing :messenger_grinning_squinting:
 
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I got mild fever and body pain for last two and a half days (couldn´t sleep two nights because of how hot I was feeling). But it´s gone now, I started to feel good by afternoon yesterday, slept very well at night and I feel great today. I was hoping it wasn´t the real thing, now I wish it was the real thing :messenger_grinning_squinting:

One of my co-workers wives just had a similar episode. Shes going on 4 days now of no fever and no other symptoms so Im guessing you and her did not get the Rona.
 


Russia has well funded МЧС - Ministry of Emergency Situations (no, I'm not joking). It has boats, planes and hundreds of thousands of staff (mostly firefighters, though).

Acted earlier on what? The WHO who was saying there's no human-to-human transmission or false information coming from China?
WHO first admitted there was human-to-human transmission back in January (around 17th, I think) and it STILL doesn't make "if we acted earlier, we could have saved lives" a false statement.
 
WHO first admitted there was human-to-human transmission back in January (around 17th, I think) and it STILL doesn't make "if we acted earlier, we could have saved lives" a false statement.

What?


That was January 14th. Stop watching CCPNN and their attempt to rewrite history.
 
Fauci was talking about a hypothetical scenario in his CNN interview in which, logically, one could assume that fewer people would have died if we locked down things immediately, but that there wasn't much support for that kind of action at the time. Nothing he said was a lie or even a call that we should have acted earlier given the circumstances. Not sure why people are trying to attack him based on this (unless he said something else in a different interview).
 
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Well Duh if we acted earlier we would of saved lives.

If we would of taken out Bill Clinton in 1992 so to stop him from selling out the USA and thus the world to the CCP then we could of saved lives today.

How far back do we wanna go with this? If we took out Mao back in the 50's we stop the CCP and save millions of Chinese who died in the great famine and 100's of millions of aborted female babies because of stupid 1 child policy.
 
The guy keeps repeating that he couldn't close down any cities/states because of the constitution.
But then we're supposed to believe that he has a specific right to overturn mayors/governors, and reopen cities and states?

There's just no logical way that both of those things can be true, and when you consider the source, you know that neither is.

That's unfortunately the media's goal, to distract you with needless conflict. Pitting the president against governors is a story they want to sell, showing the president's cooperation with governors isn't. It's all about the money for them and you know which one draws more eyeballs.
 
That's unfortunately the media's goal, to distract you with needless conflict. Pitting the president against governors is a story they want to sell, showing the president's cooperation with governors isn't. It's all about the money for them and you know which one draws more eyeballs.

My post had nothing to do with the media, it was about two bullshit comments that Trump has repeated multiple times.
 
Update for Italy & Spain

Italy:
New Cases: 3,153(-939)
New Deaths: 566(+135)

Spain:
New Cases: 2,665(-1,139)
New Deaths: 280(-323)

Significant drops in # of new cases. Moving in the right direction!
 
The guy keeps repeating that he couldn't close down any cities/states because of the constitution.
But then we're supposed to believe that he has a specific right to overturn mayors/governors, and reopen cities and states?

There's just no logical way that both of those things can be true, and when you consider the source, you know that neither is.

technically, that is not what Trump says. He usually says he trusts in the Constitution, and wants governors to do the right thing and they are doing the right thing... and then throws a in a huge 'but' at the end where he footnotes that if he thought a governor wasn't doing the right thing he could override them.

he has clearly stated he could quarantine/restrict, etc. but he would rather not in deference to the constitution and governors.

now whether he is correct is a different issue, but the contradiction you assert is not there - he follows up with that 'but I could' all the time during his pressers.

imho he is doing the right thing allowing the states to govern themselves. And I believe he is correct that he is capable of declaring an emergency so broad he could effectively suspend the Constitution (Via Bush era law iirc), and I am ever grateful he seems to be avoiding this route.
 
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