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Do we have new numbers on how the media's ratings are right now with all these gotcha questions? Even if they are up, I guess the irony will be that ad revenue is tanking so they aren't really profiting off of it anyway.
 
America is getting dangerously close to 1 million cases.

Honestly, the world cannot afford to see America fall. The alternative (China) is going to be hell for everyone.

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Zefah said:
Damn... not fake news, apparently.

www.businessinsider.com

Hungry Americans are waiting in miles-long lines as food banks struggle to keep up with demand. Here's a look at how rising unemployment and dwindling volunteer pools are impacting US food pantries.

More than 16.8 million Americans have filed for unemployment in the past three weeks, bringing national unemployment rates up to 13 percent.
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You should post this and that tweet in the honeypot thread over in politics where the comfortably privileged are cumming all over each other's faces right now.
 
Partner had some distressing news today. She had been worried about her uncle as she hadn't heard from him for about 3 weeks and the last thing she knew was that he was feeling ill. He lives alone, abroad in Spain so she could not check up on him once his phone was off. Found out today that his neighbour found him unconscious 2 weeks ago and he has been on a ventilator in a coma for the past 10 days. Thankfully he has been moved out of ICU today, but doctors were convinced he would not make it. The part of Spain that he lives in is so rural that it is only by luck that his neighbour is a high ranking police man that he was able to summon an ambulance. He would be dead without his neighbour and the medical care. Really hit it home for me today in regards to why I'm staying indoors. I sure as hell don't want a dose of this thing but you can times that by 10 for my older family members. Feeling very relieved this evening.
 
mekes said:
I sure as hell don't want a dose of this thing but you can times that by 10 for my older family members. Feeling very relieved this evening.
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Trust me, you don't want it.

I'm basically stuck in my room for two weeks and even just going to the kitchen puts me at risk since I am living with someone who is confirmed positive. I haven't actually checked up on my mother's status but she's still in bed all day trying to recover.
 
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I don't think some of the major cities should rush to reopen so soon so quickly without proper procedures and policy, especially the states which daily reported number would go up more than 1000+ now.

 
I talked to my doctor today and he told me eating takeout should be fine as long as you throw away the containers and wash your hands after touching them before eating. I'm still debating on whether or not I wanna risk it, but I went to grubhub to see if my local diner was still up and it was but holy crap they cut their menu in half. I don't know if it was coronavirus related or not, maybe they couldn't get supplies of certain items anymore so had to alter the menu? Everything I typically got from them is off the menu.

Anyone here have this happen to them when ordering takeout?
 
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DragoonKain said:
I talked to my doctor today and he told me eating takeout should be fine as long as you throw away the containers and wash your hands after touching them before eating. I'm still debating on whether or not I wanna risk it, but I went to grubhub to see if my local diner was still up and it was but holy crap they cut their menu in half. I don't know if it was coronavirus related or not, maybe they couldn't get supplies of certain items anymore so had to alter the menu? Everything I typically got from them is off the menu.

Anyone here have this happen to them when ordering takeout?
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Yep, lots of restaurants that are still open here (many are closed outright) are operating with limited menus.
 
McDonalds has cut their menu as well. Just selling the most popular items to save costs.

Take out should be OK. Especially if you reheat the food. The virus is completely obliterated at 92 Celsius within 15 minutes. Ive stuck to things like Pizza which are easy to reheat. Not so easy with sandwiches and the like.
 
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Cunth said:
The fucks happening in France
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The situation is actually stabilizing, with the number of cases in ICU decreasing steadily, and daily deaths being stable or trending down. The apparent surge of deaths is due to numbers of deaths in private and nursing homes coming in late, or that are starting to be included in daily numbers. For example yesterday we had 418 deaths in hospitals, out of 761 total.
 
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DragoonKain said:
I talked to my doctor today and he told me eating takeout should be fine as long as you throw away the containers and wash your hands after touching them before eating. I'm still debating on whether or not I wanna risk it, but I went to grubhub to see if my local diner was still up and it was but holy crap they cut their menu in half. I don't know if it was coronavirus related or not, maybe they couldn't get supplies of certain items anymore so had to alter the menu? Everything I typically got from them is off the menu.

Anyone here have this happen to them when ordering takeout?
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Places are only getting a small fraction of the business they used to. It makes more sense to limit the menu then to fully stock and have things start to go bad due to low sales.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
I'm not done saying fuck China yet. CCP and WHO fuck em
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The Orange Man is bad, you bigoted alt-right fool!

Trust the UN! Trust that Teddy bloke who runs the WHO! Trust the numbers for they never lie! Bill Gates is humanity's last hope for survival in a world of fake news, DONTCHA KNOW THAT?!

 
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That was one of the more extraordinary interviews we have done here at UnHerd.

Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world's most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:
  • UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based
  • The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only
  • This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a "by-product"
  • The initial UK response, before the "180 degree U-turn", was better
  • The Imperial College paper was "not very good" and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact
  • The paper was very much too pessimistic
  • Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway
  • The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown
  • The results will eventually be similar for all countries
  • Covid-19 is a "mild disease" and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.
  • The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%
  • At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available
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888 deaths in UK today. While it's positive that the number has flattened and isn't growing, I do find it puzzling the number can remain that high even after the nation has been so many weeks in lockdown. So these deaths would have been infected during the lockdown.

Assuming identical mortality rate, how can the number of infections be same as pre-lockdown deaths?
 
Smiles and Cries said:
I have an itch in my throat and feel sick with dread. why am I in connecticut I could be on a beach catching a virus or protesting lockdowns
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I had this. Brought me closer to a panic attack than I have been ever since my DVT. The reassuring thing I can say is that as soon as the tickle lifts your mind will be at ease, you will feel very happy and care free.

It will help to try to tackle possible other causes for the tickle

- remove furry rugs and throws temporarily
- pop an allergy medicine
- drink more water throughout the day
- get a humidifier home

Probably none of us has spent all their days in AC before.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
I have an itch in my throat and feel sick with dread. why am I in connecticut I could be on a beach catching a virus or protesting lockdowns
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Chittagong said:
I had this. Brought me closer to a panic attack than I have been ever since my DVT. The reassuring thing I can say is that as soon as the tickle lifts your mind will be at ease, you will feel very happy and care free.

It will help to try to tackle possible other causes for the tickle

- remove furry rugs and throws temporarily
- pop an allergy medicine
- drink more water throughout the day
- get a humidifier home

Probably none of us has spent all their days in AC before.
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Oh man, I'm exactly here...scratchy throat and filled with nothing but dread. I feel completely fine otherwise, but I can tell that anxiety is spiking my temp a degree, also, which adds to the drama. I wouldn't care so much if it wasn't for my wife and daughter being in the house with me. The thing is, I've only gone to the grocery store with mask and gloves once a week and occasional contactless food delivery. I'm sure it's nothing, but it really does get into your head.
 
cryptoadam said:
"It seems statistics from China [were] a bitter joke, because many in the world thought this is just like influenza, with fewer deaths," Jahanpur said during a video conference in remarks translated by Radio Farda. "This [impression] were based on reports from China and now it seems China made a bitter joke with the rest of the world."
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China reported around 4-5% of death rate, that's way above influenza, so I don't quite get what he's on about.
 
Joe T. said:
They're not exactly out of the woods yet.
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The are at 10k despite being one of the first countries to get hit, with 22 new cases and 1 death yesterday.
Had all countries been able to handle it similarly, C19 wouldn't be in the news by now.
 
NinjaMouse said:
Oh man, I'm exactly here...scratchy throat and filled with nothing but dread. I feel completely fine otherwise, but I can tell that anxiety is spiking my temp a degree, also, which adds to the drama. I wouldn't care so much if it wasn't for my wife and daughter being in the house with me. The thing is, I've only gone to the grocery store with mask and gloves once a week and occasional contactless food delivery. I'm sure it's nothing, but it really does get into your head.
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yep, had very mild temperature too occasionally with the tickle, which freaked me out even more. I mean it wasn't even real temperature, just 37.1c but since I have taken my temp twice a day for 5 weeks it was a deviation, and pushed my anxiety.
 
llien said:
The are at 10k despite being one of the first countries to get hit, with 22 new cases and 1 death yesterday.
Had all countries been able to handle it similarly, C19 wouldn't be in the news by now.
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Had all countries been as wise to China's BS the world would be a very different place today, too.
 
llien said:
China reported around 4-5% of death rate, that's way above influenza, so I don't quite get what he's on about.
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What are you smoking ? China said they had 2500 deaths and 3.5 CFR.

Anyways Iran doesnt believe chinas numbers and think they lied and covered up and Iran is like Chinas butt buddy.
 
Covid-19 and Mongol siege:

-Dude, can't we open the gate?
-We've discussed it already, mongols are still there.
-But my cabbage!
-MONGOLS!
-But we are sitting like that FOR WEEKS!
-That's how siege works.
-But mongols haven't killed anyone for several days already.
-That's because we are all behind the walls.
-How do you know? Maybe mongols are not as dangerous!
-...
-I mean, how bad could it be? They certainly won't kill us ALL, right?
-That's exactly what they'd do
-But my cabbage...


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Joe T. said:
Had all countries been as wise to China's BS the world would be a very different place today, too.
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I honestly don't think it was even remotely possible. People needed to see deaths to act. Not a single leader was ready to risk having lockdowns that are possibly not needed.
Spain wasn't even OK with canceling feminist march on 8th of March, despite hundreds of confirmed cases.

cryptoadam said:
What are you smoking ? China said they had 2500 deaths and 3.5 CFR.
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So, 3.5%. something 1% higher than Germany and way WAY WAY beyond Influenca CFR.
(I actually recall it being at around 4% on the worldmeter site, but it doesn't matter, in either case it is way more than influenza)
 
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Smiles and Cries said:
right the freezer is fine just can't get the fridge to cool anything it is almost room temp in there shit has been like that for weeks
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Oh man I had that problem like 10 years ago. I read around online and discovered what part was likely in need of replacement. I had a guy come out to fix it and told him what I thought it was. He decided I couldn't possibly understand anything about fixing refrigerators and couldn't be right.

He charged like $300+ for parts and labor to do something else with it, and it wasn't fixed. Ended up having to bitch out multiple people on the phone to get my money back and hire a 2nd person who then fixed it with the exact part I said needed to replaced.

None of this information is helpful to you, but that reminded me of how pissed off I was. I wish I remembered what the part was.
 
diffusionx said:
My guess is NYC has 2-3 million, and NJ has 5-10x more than the official number. You'll note most NJ cases are in NYC bedroom communities where people take PT every day, those areas probably have the same percentage of inflected as NYC overall.

So let's be clear here. In the end when the final story is this thing infects people the same way the flu does, it has the same symptoms the flu does, it kills the same risk group the flu does at the same rate the flu does, are we still going to be pretending that it's worse than the flu?
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In a typical year NY state sees about 4500 deaths from flu: (taken from CDC)

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How many deaths from Coronavirus is NY state at right now? 14k?
But it's just the same death rate as the flu right? Give me a break.
 
nemiroff said:
Why are they betting their citizens' lives on immunity when scientists are saying they are not even sure Covid-19 activates an effective immunity protection?
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Consider the options:
- Immunity is possible. This being the case you figure out who will be least affected and let them have a corona-party. Boom, herd immunity and everyone's safe.
- Immunity is possible. This being the case you get a vaccine sorted. Boom, everyone's safe.
- Immunity is not possible. This means no herd immunity and no vaccine. Bugger - the virus is with us forever and our elderly will forever be plagued by it and die of it.

If option 3 is the case we're fucked anyway so taking a punt on options 1 and 2 isn't a bad idea.
 
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008 said:
Haven't seen anyone cheerleading deaths in this thread.
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Perhaps not cheerleading, but citing it as a number when arguing that we need to stay inside forever.

nemiroff said:
Why are they betting their citizens' lives on immunity when scientists are saying they are not even sure Covid-19 activates an effective immunity protection?
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Other than a small number of cases in South Korea, we haven't seen evidence to the contrary. If people aren't developing immunity naturally in their bodies to fight off the disease then you can kiss the idea of a vaccine ever being developed goodbye.
 
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hariseldon said:
Consider the options:
- Immunity is possible. This being the case you figure out who will be least affected and let them have a corona-party. Boom, herd immunity and everyone's safe.
- Immunity is possible. This being the case you get a vaccine sorted. Boom, everyone's safe.
- Immunity is not possible. This means no herd immunity and no vaccine. Bugger - the virus is with us forever and our elderly will forever be plagued by it and die of it.

If option 3 is the case we're fucked anyway so taking a punt on options 1 and 2 isn't a bad idea.
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It could also mean that without an effective lockdown until we know a little bit more about the virus it could end up killing not only the "elderly", but make multiple rounds until most of us were dead.

On the upside, media reported yesterday that if you're a smoker you could be more protected against being killed by secondary bacterial infection. I'm not a smoker, but..
 
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llien said:
Covid-19 and Mongol siege:

-Dude, can't we open the gate?
-We've discussed it already, mongols are still there.
-But my cabbage!
-MONGOLS!
-But we are sitting like that FOR WEEKS!
-That's how siege works.
-But mongols haven't killed anyone for several days already.
-That's because we are all behind the walls.
-How do you know? Maybe mongols are not as dangerous!
-...
-I mean, how bad could it be? They certainly won't kill us ALL, right?
-That's exactly what they'd do
-But my cabbage...


8hmWiV0.png




I honestly don't think it was even remotely possible. People needed to see deaths to act. Not a single leader was ready to risk having lockdowns that are possibly not needed.
Spain wasn't even OK with canceling feminist march on 8th of March, despite hundreds of confirmed cases.


So, 3.5%. something 1% higher than Germany and way WAY WAY beyond Influenca CFR.
(I actually recall it being at around 4% on the worldmeter site, but it doesn't matter, in either case it is way more than influenza)
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Ok whatever. Im not going tp debate chinas numbers. You wanted to know what iranian officials said i told you. Iran are pissed at china for lying and think the numbers they provided are a joke. If you have a problem with that go debate Irans head health official who said that.

No one is buying CCP BS even long time boot lickers are turning on CCP. When Iran calls you out for BS the you know you really fucked up.
 
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