Starlight Lotice
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I was thinking that but was hoping it was just paranoia at this point.
I was hoping it wasn't.
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I was thinking that but was hoping it was just paranoia at this point.
I was hoping it wasn't.
Djau
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I was thinking that but was hoping it was just paranoia at this point.
I was hoping it wasn't.
I'd say phone the Covid line for your country just in case. Don't take unneeded risks and self-isolate.
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Starlight Lotice
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I think I will do that first thing tomorrow if it gets worse. Is the Number 112 in the UK?
Been self isolating for 2 months but sadly two of my family members are "Key" Workers who are also at risk but I know that they had problems 3 weeks ago.
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What's impressive is how much of an idiot you are but still not realizing it.
Keep it up. This is exactly what the kind of comedy I need before I go back to treating and intubating a bunch of "COVID 19 is just a hoax" patients.
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What's impressive is how much of an idiot you are but still not realizing it.
Keep it up. This is exactly what the kind of comedy I need before I go back to treating and intubating a bunch of "COVID 19 is just a hoax" patients.
You're a weasel. I doubt you've treated a single person who thought it was a hoax. Your disdain for your patients is disgusting.
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Djau
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111 is the number. The advice if you start to show symptoms is to self-isolate for 14 days.
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Starlight Lotice
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Thanks. I was thinking 111 but I wasn't too sure if it was 2 or not.
I will also see if I can talk to my GP as well (We have a new one as our old one sadly died earlier this year from Heart Problems).
Now that's a deep insult. I took an oath and I treat everyone equally and without reservation. Don't ever insinuate that about me ever again.
That being said, yes, a lot of my patients have poor judgement just like yourself.
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You're the one who, unprompted, brought up your patients and how you little you think of them, so maybe don't do that if you don't want your professionalism questioned?
edit: furthermore, it wasn't an accusation that your horrible attitude affects your treatment of them, just that your disdain for them is disgusting.
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Tesseract
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ya seethe y bubble, m8?
Chance Boudreaux
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Obviously it is doing some good if it is able to help a soup kitchen stay open for another three weeks providing food to numerous people.
You received all $2,400 in Trump bux? I would hope that a doctor who graduated valedictorian, top of med school class, and 99 percentile on all 3 of my board exams would be able to make over $150,000 with you and your wives’ income.
I control my reaction and treatment of patients. I do not control the stupidity that put them in the situation. If you have COVID19 and you got it because you went to spring break and ignored everything we medical professionals are telling you then guess what, I'll still treat you and I'll still lose sleep over you, I'll still get balder because of you but that doesn't make you want less of a fucktard. It also doesn't suddenly make me blind to how you've put everyone including my staff at risk.
Keep it up bleach boy.
You ever heard of fellows? No. I thought so. Don't play detective in things you don't understand. We are not going to discuss how much I make
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Median income for doctors was $187,200 in 2015. Now I'm sure that varies by state and all that, and I will never shit on someone for their income, but it does seem extremely unlikely that a dual income household with one as a medical doctor would be within the income threshold to receive the full amount of Trump Bux.
For one, my wife doesn't work anymore. Secondly I do not work privately. I work at an academic center and our salaries are NOT anywhere close to private practice.
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Remember that guy here who was intentionally messing up the needles for Trump voters who gave blood?
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I truly hope you knew what the risks of your profession entailed before taking on immense debt to pursue it as a career.
I think that guy went on to become a protected poster over on Era. Still, that guy was a vile piece of shit, and even if I disagree with ORI's positions and think he's got a horrible attitude for someone in his profession, I would never think to accuse him to purposefully harming people.
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Chance Boudreaux
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I really don’t care how much you make, I just find your posts in here a little fishy that is all.
Normally, the types of people who graduate valedictorian, top of med school class, and 99 percentile on all 3 board exams aren’t the ones I would see bragging about it on a message board. These people also don’t pat themselves on the back about how they donated all of their stimulus money to soup kitchens.
But I only graduated with a GPA slightly above 2.5 so what do I know?
Edit: And he’s banned
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Moogle11
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Yep. I don't like it, but I've long just accepted that it is what it is with the US. All systems of government have their pros and cons. If I had it to do over again I'd have made different career and live choices and emigrated to a more socialist-leaning country with better social safety nets and that didn't spend huge sums of tax payers money on the military and mass incarceration etc. I'm not saying that those types of nations are inherently better, they just more align with my personal values. But I didn't make those choice and moving abroad would be difficult in our fields, our student loan debts, owning a house that hasn't built much equity yet (been in it less than 2 years) and family situations now. We definitely plan to retire abroad and exhaust our wealth somewhere that more aligns with our world views though, and mostly only take vacations in those types of places. Best we can do as you can expect a nation/culture to change to fit your views with in your lifetime (if ever).
In any case, I've lost any interest in trying to change things in a big way here as it's just not what the voter base here wants and goes against the ideals of the country. I'm just glad we build "ivory tower" lives where our incomes aren't impacted by things like this or the 2008 crash (beyond retirement accounts taking big hits both times anyway) and have the luxury to work from home. Thus the things I dislike about this country don't personally affect us in any major way.
I just feel awful for the people, especially those in high-risk groups or with high-risk people in their household, who are (or soon will be) forced to go back to work while the virus is still active or get fired with cause for not showing up to work and then be ineligible for unemployment. I wish at the very least we could find a way to keep those at-risk folks on unemployment or disability or something until the virus is gone or there's a vaccine. I don't have any issues with low-risk people going to back to work, at least outside of the places that are still major hot spots.
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That's a perfectly legitimate way of viewing things, but I do think there is a scenario where countries like the one you're in would not really have the option to invest in social safety nets over the military if it were not for America spending ludicrous amounts on its military and projecting its strength to the rest of the world and its intent to protect its allies.
Moogle11
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I think that was true in the past as we saw with the US' needed intervention in WW1 and WW2. I'm not a person that thinks there's likely to be a WW3 in our lifetimes and wars will mostly be in the middle east, Africa and maybe South America as developing nations grow and fight it out. With the European Union I think most of those nations are at incredibly low risk of invasion. Even with Russia and China these days it's more economic/trade wars being fought. There's little need to invade or take over other countries these days, more an issues in developing nations that may fight over natural resources, re-fight civil wars etc.
But it's one of those things we have no way of knowing, so agreeing to disagree is fine of course. Besides, if you are right it's not like it (other countries having better quality of life in soem aspects due to the US' military spending) would bother me since I have no qualms with building my wealth here and spending it elsewhere in retirement.
holygeesus
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Do we get to hear why ORI was banned? Just checking because I thought this place was actually more transparent than era and you could actually have a discourse.
Dr.Guru of Peru
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There is more than one type of bird flu.
You're referencing a quote from 4 years before H1N1 that refers to a hypothetical flu out break on the scale of spanish influenza, not H1N1.
There was no "model" - just an illustrative example of how bad the Spanish flu could be if it were to recur in modern times.
He said he was "also" wrong about H1N1. The article was from 2005, was given as proof of this, even though it did not refer to H1N1 and nor did it contain any specific predictions - just that a scenario on the scale of Spanish flu could lead to 200 million deaths.
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Tesseract
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Who controls the British Government response to Covid–19?
Vanessa Beeley examines the British Government's conflicts of interest in vaccine philanthropy, which she writes is more accurately called philanthrocapitalism. Why is the Cabinet Office setting up a Digital ID Unit?
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Dr.Guru of Peru
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This is an op-ed piece that has miscontrued what was actually said to make their point.Who controls the British Government response to Covid–19?
Vanessa Beeley examines the British Government's conflicts of interest in vaccine philanthropy, which she writes is more accurately called philanthrocapitalism. Why is the Cabinet Office setting up a Digital ID Unit?
As mentioned, he never said H5N1 would kill 200 million people. That number was for a hypothetical recurrence of Spanish flu.
The 65,000 was not a "probably". It was a worst case scenario i.e. the absolute upper bound of the estimate, at the outset of the disease when its R0 and fatality rate were not known and with no mitigation strategies. By definition, that is the least likely number to occur.
Anyway, I'm not defending the guy. You should just be more critical of what you repost here, since it seems like you don't even read half the stuff you do.
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Jonsoncao
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Even though the guy you quoted is banned, I do agree on his assessment on the moronic behavior of people "protesting on beaches", given my own definition of "moron" being "action bounded by thy cognitive ability" (i.e., all humans).
If the bio-weapon leakage possibility cannot be ruled out, and more and more news on recovered patients testing positive, these "protestors" are not respecting the power of a stable RNA virus enough and are indeed morons (they don't have the chance to learn enough science to understand how screw humankind are so I do not blame them).
Currently all antibody stats are flawed just like 2016 poll predicting Clinton would won, while total death number does not lie.
Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported | Free to read
Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FT
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Jonsoncao
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From anecdotal evidence, I think the percentage of actual Trump supporters dumb enough to take Trump literally is less than the percentage of Trump haters wishful-thinking-ly to think Trump supporters being dumb enough to take Trump literally.
cryptoadam
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I think looking at straight CFR is wrong.
We need to look at it based on age and health.
Italy's number from Dr. Campell.
10 healthy people under 40 died out of 21K. Total of 54 under 40, and a total of 238 under 50.
Now we have to also take into account all the asymptomaic people who had it and were never tested, which could be as high as 85 times the official number of just under 200K cases.
For those under 40 that are healthy Italy's CFR is probably more like .005% or even less.
What we need to look at is what is the CFR and hospitilization rate for different age groups along with different underlying conditions, while also trying to take into account how many asymptomatic infections are there.
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Even though the guy you quoted is banned, I do agree on his assessment on the moronic behavior of people "protesting on beaches", given my own definition of "moron" being "action bounded by thy cognitive ability" (i.e., all humans).
If the bio-weapon leakage possibility cannot be ruled out, and more and more news on recovered patients testing positive, these "protestors" are not respecting the power of a stable RNA virus enough and are indeed morons (they don't have the chance to learn enough science to understand how screw humankind are so I do not blame them).
Currently all antibody stats are flawed just like 2016 poll predicting Clinton would won, while total death number does not lie.
Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported | Free to read
Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FT
At the same time, if this really is a bio weapon and we can't develop immunity to it, it's only a matter of a few months to a year before society is over.
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cryptoadam
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Even though the guy you quoted is banned, I do agree on his assessment on the moronic behavior of people "protesting on beaches", given my own definition of "moron" being "action bounded by thy cognitive ability" (i.e., all humans).
If the bio-weapon leakage possibility cannot be ruled out, and more and more news on recovered patients testing positive, these "protestors" are not respecting the power of a stable RNA virus enough and are indeed morons (they don't have the chance to learn enough science to understand how screw humankind are so I do not blame them).
Currently all antibody stats are flawed just like 2016 poll predicting Clinton would won, while total death number does not lie.
Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported | Free to read
Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FT
If I am reading this correctly its got to be worrisom
[Table 5: Distribution of cases that retested positive]
| Age group | Total | ( | % | ) |
| Total | 263 | ( | 100.0 | ) |
| 80 or above | 22 | ( | 8.4 | ) |
| 70-79 | 14 | ( | 5.3 | ) |
| 60-69 | 30 | ( | 11.4 | ) |
| 50-59 | 42 | ( | 16.0 | ) |
| 40-49 | 35 | ( | 13.3 | ) |
| 30-39 | 37 | ( | 14.1 | ) |
| 20-29 | 63 | ( | 24.0 | ) |
| 10-19 | 13 | ( | 4.9 | ) |
| 0-9 | 7 | ( | 2.7 | ) |
Haven't read anything from SK on why people are retesting positive. Right now that 3% of recovered that retested positive according to the SK CDC.
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I really hope all of the people who are freaked out about Coronavirus deaths this year get their fucking metabolic health in check. Metabolic disorder-induced heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, and stroke is and has been far more of a pandemic than this COVID-19 can ever hope to be and people just don't seem to care all that much. If we're willing to lock ourselves in doors to avoid the small chance of dying from COVID-19, we should be willing to do something about obesity.
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Moogle11
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I think it's hard to compare the two. For one, from what I see anecdotally from friends/family on facebook etc. a good chunk of the obese ones are ones that hate the shutdown and want things to open back up. So they're consistent in not worrying about their health. The other angle is a lot of people are just staying in mostly to not risk spreading it to others. My wife and I are low risk and working from home for full salary and we're still isolating as much as possible and doing everything we can to socially distance when we do have to go to the store or go pick up some carry out food/beer from or favorite spots to help them keep afloat. Not because we worry about getting it (don't want to of course as being sick sucks and anything that has a cough tends to linger for a while with me), but because we worry about being asymptomatic and passing it to someone who is high-risk of dying. Obesity isn't contagious.
That said, I do agree 100% that something needs to be done about the obesity epidemic as it's a huge public health problem that will severely over tax the health care system, medicare etc. if rates stay stable, much less if they keep increasing. I'm not sure what can be done though as you have the SJWs shouting down fat shaming and the right gets up in arms any times they try to put taxes on soda and other super unhealthy food, ban Big Gulps or whatever. Theirs a lot of people that just don't give a shit about their health as it's not directly hurting others. Which is again where this differs as at least some of those types do worry about spreading the virus to others even if they aren't that worried about themselves.
Jonsoncao
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Alright. I change my phrasing to be "the possibility of an accidental bio-weaponization of a lab virus". I just cannot believe a natural-occuring RNA virus is this stable in terms of mutation rate (magnitudes more stable than HIV-1 which is also RNA-based) without any genetic engineering.
Moogle11
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I know next to nothing about this kind of thing and would like to know more. What's the difference between this virus and something like the flu (or common cold) were there are a ton of mutations/strains?
Note, I'm not challenging you, would just genuinely like to be more informed on this.
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Has everyone seen this site? Dr. Campbell just showed it off in today's video and it has some fantastic data and makes it easy to generate your own charts very quickly to compare countries at different times.
ourworldindata.org
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Jonsoncao
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We can relied on Nextstrain proj easily: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?l=clock
To convert this to standard substitutions per nucleotide site per year, it is about 1.1e-3.
auspice
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For HIV-1, it is about 4e-3.
Now comparing the genome size, SARS-Cov-2 has about 30.something kb(!) in length, influenza-A's is about 13.6kb, HIV-1 is about 9kb if you count everything (the core size IIRC is only 2kb).
Taking the genome size into account, SARS-Cov-2 is about 6 times more stable than influenza, and 12 times more stable than HIV-1.
Even though this is good sign for vaccine development, it is not a good sign for human kind in pre-vaccine era, fewer mutations simply means that SARS-Cov-2 keeps its strength while being spreaded.
rykomatsu
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Weren't firearm businesses considered essential at the federal level a few weeks back?
Moogle11
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Likely just meant they couldn’t shut down all options to buy firearms. Gun shops, Wal-Mart etc we’re still open.
Also, Bass Pro may have just decided to shut down for a while even if not ordered as some places have.
It's not primarily a gun store. The firearms part was open for curbside pickup for a while. The WHOLE store is now open and the place is huge:
Basically CA's numbers are so low a lot of places are reopening and telling Newsom to go fuck himself. There are small businesses in the area starting to re-open and the sheriffs aren't enforcing the lockdown with them because they know the numbers are low and people have to pay their rent.
rykomatsu
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It's not primarily a gun store. The firearms part was open for curbside pickup for a while. The WHOLE store is now open and the place is huge:
Basically CA's numbers are so low a lot of places are reopening and telling Newsom to go fuck himself. There are small businesses in the area starting to re-open and the sheriffs aren't enforcing the lockdown with them because they know the numbers are low and people have to pay their rent.
Looks like the Cabela's (owned by Bass Pro Shop) not too far from where I live down in Buda, TX. Awesome store
ricardo_sousa11
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jesusfucking christ, are you having a mental breakdown or are you officially retarded?
your past comments are heartbreakingly retarded and offensive as hell, drink some tea and relax kid.
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