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pLow7

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Hey guys. Some scholars think that there was probably a guy names Jesus at some point in history. Someone should tell them there are plenty of those guys alive...today.

Yup. Take THAT, atheists.

Eh, there is no reputable scholar that denies Jesus existence inlcuding his crucifixion. But as i stated, this is another point of argument and does not change the fact that comparing Santa to an historical proved figure is asinine.
 

Lanrutcon

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His point was literally that he did not exist, scholars tend to agree he did...so yeah take that retarded atheist lol. The mic drop not only proved nothing, but was inaccurate.

No, his point was that Jesus, the son of God, who transcended death, who cured the blind, who walked on water, who is believed to be 100% real by Christians, does not exist.

His point was not that Jesus, some nondescript random dude from some random point of history who couldn't possibly have performed any miracles because this is real life, did not exist.

The difference between the two is pretty simple to understand.

Eh, there is no reputable scholar that denies Jesus existence inlcuding his crucifixion. But as i stated, this is another point of argument and does not change the fact that comparing Santa to an historical proved figure is asinine.

But nobody worships or disputes the historical figure. They worship or dispute the son of God. Both got crucified, the one is imaginary. There's an entire mythology separating the two.
 
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pLow7

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No, his point was that Jesus, the son of God, who transcended death, who cured the blind, who walked on water, who is believed to be 100% real by Christians, does not exist.

His point was not that Jesus, some nondescript random dude from some random point of history who couldn't possibly have performed any miracles because this is real life, did not exist.

The difference between the two is pretty simple to understand.



But nobody worships or disputes the historical figure. They worship or dispute the son of God. Both got crucified, the one is imaginary. There's an entire mythology separating the two.

Then he could have Said "God" instead of Jesus.

But let's not further derail this thread.
 

Nymphae

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No, his point was that Jesus, the son of God, who transcended death, who cured the blind, who walked on water, who is believed to be 100% real by Christians, does not exist

You might take his point to be that, but that is not what he said. He should be clearer.

Eh, there is no reputable scholar that denies Jesus existence inlcuding his crucifixion. But as i stated, this is another point of argument and does not change the fact that comparing Santa to an historical proved figure is asinine.

Then he could have Said "God" instead of Jesus

Right.
 

Djau

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Not agreeing with him and this probably another point of discussion, but taking Jesus as an example for something "not real" is not really smart.

'Jesus' is just a name and theres been people called it, but the Christian concept of it is as fake as fairy tales.
 

Djau

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Wait they aren't real?

My world has just collapsed. Please tell me at least Trump is real?

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Oh hes real.
 

sneas78

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Can’t believe how many sheep’s just take everything the mass fake media tells them to do and the obey. You will stay in your house, you will wear a mask, you will get tested, you will get traced. At least look at it objectively, like you do with videos games. Some of you are more critical on video games then what’s going on in your real life.. it’s a shame.
Why are we letting Bill Gates telling us the won’t go back to normal and you have to get traced? Who the fuck is he? He doesn’t have a medical degree. He has a foundation. Come on people .. stop being lazy.
 
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hariseldon

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Jesus was a philosopher who took the ideas behind Judaism and added his own twist. He got crucified for it. I'm willing to believe those things, just as I'm willing to believe that Mohammed existed and married a 9-year-old, and was likely a warlord of some kind. The stories are just legendary embellishments over time to support the philosophical elements.
 
Feels like the thread is slowing down.

Are people getting over Corona or just less traffic on here?

I think it's not new and scary anymore, and really, people are just tired of this new normal.

There also doesn't seem to be a whole heck of a lot of "new news" to drive posts. It's just regurgitating the same stuff ad nauseam.

Things seem to be trending in the right direction in most of the world, there are still some areas that are on a big upswing, but is more and more looking like they're outbreak is just timed differently than the rest.
 

rykomatsu

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Feels like the thread is slowing down.

Are people getting over Corona or just less traffic on here?

There's no real new information coming out at this point - since the IFR (not the CFR) appears to be pretty low for vast majority of the population, it's now just turned into a big government oversight / return to normalcy political shitshow - I'd say primarily fear driven on the "don't fucking leave your home" side of things.
 
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Joe T.

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Feels like the thread is slowing down.

Are people getting over Corona or just less traffic on here?

The more time I spend listening to government officials and the media the more time I spend trying to rationalize their irrational statements/reporting... and it all leads down the path of conspiracy theories.

We have a metro area of 4 million facing an extended economic shutdown with up to 50% of shops estimated to be facing closure, yet the press is asking why we aren't extending the shutdown yet again? We hover around single digit deaths when excluding nursing homes.

None of this makes sense.
 

ManaByte

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The more time I spend listening to government officials and the media the more time I spend trying to rationalize their irrational statements/reporting... and it all leads down the path of conspiracy theories.

We have a metro area of 4 million facing an extended economic shutdown with up to 50% of shops estimated to be facing closure, yet the press is asking why we aren't extending the shutdown yet again? We hover around single digit deaths when excluding nursing homes.

None of this makes sense.

Oh yes it does:

Activity is picking up, even in my state of New York, where we’re still under lockdown. It’s palpable; Americans everywhere are going back to work.

Democrats don’t like that one little bit. The worse things are, the better their chances in November.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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Oh yes it does:

I do suspect there is some truth to this. If the mass lockdowns can keep up for even just another month or two, there's no way we see a big recovery by October or November. Democrats can keep saying they are the ones who care about people's lives as the reason for why we can't open up anytime soon and why we need more government bailouts. They get to look like the virtuous ones to a whole lot of people and can then position Biden as the right man to fix the economy since he's pulled out us out of a recession before alongside Obama!
 
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sneas78

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Move on from the religion and conspiracy meta from this thread. There are plenty of others in which you can discuss to your heart's content in.
I disagree and you need to chill.
These laws will not be respected if they are not respectable laws.
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Chaplain

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In Canada news:

"The newly formed Canadian Gestapo are now coming into peoples homes too, if necessary, FORCIBLY remove people from their own home and into what they CLAIM will be hospitals, but, in effect will be concentration camps They try the softly softly approach first, however, if that doesn't work, then they will use force And let's not forget here, this is based on ZERO evidence of you." (5/9/20)

 
In Canada news:

"The newly formed Canadian Gestapo are now coming into peoples homes too, if necessary, FORCIBLY remove people from their own home and into what they CLAIM will be hospitals, but, in effect will be concentration camps They try the softly softly approach first, however, if that doesn't work, then they will use force And let's not forget here, this is based on ZERO evidence of you." (5/9/20)



"Well you see, this is all alright because it's for the greater good..."

Wow. This is fucked up. And a lot of people around the net are really showing their asses by how much of a police state they are willing to stooge for. Better throw people into camps, don't want a second wave.
 

cryptoadam

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In Canada news:

"The newly formed Canadian Gestapo are now coming into peoples homes too, if necessary, FORCIBLY remove people from their own home and into what they CLAIM will be hospitals, but, in effect will be concentration camps They try the softly softly approach first, however, if that doesn't work, then they will use force And let's not forget here, this is based on ZERO evidence of you." (5/9/20)



If this in Montreal, St Josephs is a mental institute.

I watched this an I am not sure what happened here. If they want to bring him to st Josephes and the women works in mental health they think this guy is crazy.
 

cryptoadam

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Just to follow up on my Quebec post

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Under the age of 60 we have 66 deaths. Under the age of 30, 0 deaths.

Remember my post above, 83% of deaths in old age homes.
 

Chaplain

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If this in Montreal, St Josephs is a mental institute.

I watched this an I am not sure what happened here. If they want to bring him to st Josephs and the women works in mental health they think this guy is crazy.

They take both the man and woman. So, either they are both mentally unstable or something else is going on.

“In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household at family level. In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units ... Now we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner.” (Dr. Michael Ryan, Executive Director of the World Health Organization)
 
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cryptoadam

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They take both the man and woman. So, either they are both mentally unstable or something else is going on.

I read a little bit more and it seems like these people are some sort of nutters, they don't pay their property taxes and are doing some sort of hunger strike or something.

I am not sure this has to do with Corona.

Here is their website


After over three years of exposing government’s lies and injustice, after we have sent out our Declaration of our refusal to finance its atrocities and refused to pay taxes, the government has now activated its repressions against us.

Ignoring all the dozens of letters we’ve sent them, in which we explained our findings and reasons, which can be summarized by our conversation with the government officials in February 2020, on March 2020 the government has taken decision to confiscate our entire property, have issued tax lien certificates, leaving us one year before property tax sale and expulsion.

What is taking place is expropriation, extortion, not a democratic response to allegations. The government completely deprives people of choices, runs the law of violence, covered by the veil of hypocrisy.

In response to our refusal to finance lies and atrocities committed by the corrupt government and their armed forces, which are dispossessing peasants in the South off their lands and ready to turn against resistance in the North at any time, – they are not squeamish to forcefully confiscate people’s property! This is happening in Canada, the country in words claiming their respect for human rights and freedoms!


This doesn't really seem Corona related and sounds more like a bunch of anti-government anarchist who don't want to pay taxes and now they are being taken to a mental institute.

Does their antagonistic behavior towards the feds require them being tested for being crazy well I can't comment, but this does not seem like Canadian cops dragging away someone from their loved ones because they have Corona chan.
 
Its crazy how varied the police response has been from the lockdowns. Where I live, nobody is pulling people over to verify that they are "essential" workers, I've been going out for motorcycle rides every weekend and passed tons of cops with no issues, parks are closed but people are just parking outside of the park and walking into them and no cops are harassing anybody.
 

pr0cs

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no cops are harassing anybody.
I honestly think I would leave the city I'm in if a cop asked me why I'm out if they stopped me walking with my wife and dog.
Those pictures of UK / French police stopping to harass solo people on the beach would probably land me in jail if they pissed on my brains like that
 

Collz69

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I honestly think I would leave the city I'm in if a cop asked me why I'm out if they stopped me walking with my wife and dog.
Those pictures of UK / French police stopping to harass solo people on the beach would probably land me in jail if they pissed on my brains like that


Well, in the England at least, from Wednesday we can go out as often as we like & do whatever activity we like, the police can’t do jack shit about it.
They can go back to not investigating crimes and ignoring our calls.
Police forces around the UK have done irreparable damage to their image in the way they have handled themselves during the past weeks, jumped up hitlers have revelled in their new “powers” the population will remember their actions.
What little respect they had left before this is gone.
 

rykomatsu

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Its crazy how varied the police response has been from the lockdowns. Where I live, nobody is pulling people over to verify that they are "essential" workers, I've been going out for motorcycle rides every weekend and passed tons of cops with no issues, parks are closed but people are just parking outside of the park and walking into them and no cops are harassing anybody.

Some states have classified "leisure driving" as an outdoor activity. Aside from California creating an explicit list of what is allowed, I don't think any state has declaratively stated "only <x,y,z> are considered outdoor activities", so it's open to interpretation.

We've been exploring rural Texas every weekend, no problems at all.
 

iconmaster

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Ignoring all the dozens of letters we’ve sent them, in which we explained our findings and reasons, which can be summarized by our conversation with the government officials in February 2020, on March 2020 the government has taken decision to confiscate our entire property, have issued tax lien certificates, leaving us one year before property tax sale and expulsion.

It's shocking that explaining to the government why you're not paying taxes isn't sufficient to ward off these kinds of punitive actions.

/s
 
Some states have classified "leisure driving" as an outdoor activity. Aside from California creating an explicit list of what is allowed, I don't think any state has declaratively stated "only <x,y,z> are considered outdoor activities", so it's open to interpretation.

We've been exploring rural Texas every weekend, no problems at all.

I live in CA. Havent looked at any of the new rules at all so not sure if "leisure driving" is allowed...but fuck it.
 
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