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[Ailynn]

Just wear a mask. If you are outside away from people or with people who aren't infected (and you aren't) then fine.

But if you are going in public, stores, casinos, whatever wear a mask. Its not the hardest thing to do and its better than lock downs and taking away your other freedoms.

The mask in the end is not to protect you its to protect others and by not wearing one you are really saying you don't care about other people.

Like ya I get you don't want your phone traced, you don't want to be told to close your business, or to stay home, but a mask is right up there with washing your hands on how small of an ask it is of people.

Absolutely! I've been wearing a mask even before I started having symptoms of having caught it. I barely ever went out before, but probably won't go out at all for a while now. We have enough food to last about 3 weeks I believe. I can't stand the thought of anyone catching it from any careless mistakes on my part.

 

[diffusionx]

Just seems weird, the chain of events.

To me, and I think most people, it seemed intuitive that the mask would help cut down transmission, considering it is part of the culture in Asia, for sick people to wear masks. But the all-important "experts" and "scientists" derped in February and March that wearing the mask doesn't help and actually increases the rate of transmission. Of course the media repeated this for weeks - one wonders if we actually started putting on masks then, would we have just shut this thing down then?

And now, after months of this brutal and un-American lockdown, they're telling us to wear the fucking masks, and the entire apparatus just spins 180 degrees. Of course nobody is held accountable for those earlier, unintuitive and quite frankly ridiculous statements.

It just feels like we are all subjects in some sick social experiment.

 

[cryptoadam]

Mask stuff was a giant scandal.

1- China and WHO conspired. China was hoarding masks and with their influence in the WHO they for sure got them to come out and say masks are only needed for front line workers and the sick. Also since CCP was lieing about the severity and asymptomatic infected we didn't have an idea how many people could be spreading the virus without even knowing it.

2-The rest of the world got scared shitless about PPE and saw the TP hoarding going on and took a collective decision to downplay masks so health care workers would have supplies.

We were feed wrong information because CCP wanted to keep all the masks, and once they managed to secure enough product and shut down their manufacturing the rest of the world was in a shortage so they followed suite on the whole masks aren't needed narrative.

Now that masks are plentiful and you can get them anywhere, I see them at my local gas station everyone has done an about face on masks. Are we going to call it a coincidence that all of a sudden all scientest saw the light once there weren't anymore shortages?

 

[T8SC]

Well, in my area of the UK pretty much everyone has gone back to "normal". We're expecting Costa and other shops to reopen soon and some shops that had serious restrictions (Supermarkets) have relaxed them over recent days. Queues are minimal, roads are full of cars, more & more people are back at work.

I said we should've locked down in late Feb, 3 weeks before we did, we'd have saved so many more lives and yet we're only now just putting in quarantine measures for flights inbound.

 

[Rock And Roll]

We don't have any proof the lockdown actually saved lives. We already know in many areas the panic may have actually COST lives when they were so afraid of running out of hospital beds that they were shipping still-contagious patients back into nursing homes. Then of course we have the revelation that two thirds of new cases in New York now are occurring people who have been more or less sheltering in place.

(And this all assumes you believe the official count, and that you think it's an apples to apples comparison between this and the Hong Kong Flu death count; for example, I doubt Hong Kong Flu carriers who died in an unrelated car accident ever had "Hong Kong Flu" written on their death certificates as the cause.)

This has been one big social experiment. I'm sure they're thrilled. We have proven by and large very docile and controllable. If you are complying with the mask orders for example, you are part of the problem, period.

We don't have any proof that the lockdown saved lives yet compare Sweden to its neighboring countries and the death toll is significantly higher.

Then point to Sweden as what should have been done (staying open and keeping at risk people sheltered) yet ignoring the fact they wore masks in public places to limit transmission.

Wearing a mask makes you part of the problem because if you are at risk or possibly asymptomatically infected and you don't want to put others in jeopardy. Fantastic logic there.

 

[Sejan]

I'm not positive yet, but I believe my roommate and I may have the Covid-19 virus. We got the swab test last Monday and are still waiting on the results. If it is it, I'm thankful it's been a mild case.

I hope you all and your loved ones are well and STAY that way. Much love and praying for you. ❤

Whether its COVID or something else, I hope you both feel better as soon as possible.

 

[ValiantTraveler]

Just seems weird, the chain of events.

To me, and I think most people, it seemed intuitive that the mask would help cut down transmission, considering it is part of the culture in Asia, for sick people to wear masks. But the all-important "experts" and "scientists" derped in February and March that wearing the mask doesn't help and actually increases the rate of transmission. Of course the media repeated this for weeks - one wonders if we actually started putting on masks then, would we have just shut this thing down then?

And now, after months of this brutal and un-American lockdown, they're telling us to wear the fucking masks, and the entire apparatus just spins 180 degrees. Of course nobody is held accountable for those earlier, unintuitive and quite frankly ridiculous statements.

It just feels like we are all subjects in some sick social experiment.

I’ll never forget how in my country (Morocco) we kept hearing every fucking day on tv and the radio that masks were not necessary at first, and then a few weeks later the ministry of health has the nerve to say “actually wearing masks is essential, we were just following the WHO’s recommendations”. If the WHO was wrong before, why trust them now?

An entire fucking government is told what to do and what not to do like a class of children. Just goes to show how little sovereignty countries have.

 

[JORMBO]

I wonder how effective Alyssa Milano’s mask is

 

[JordanN]

I wonder how effective Alyssa Milano’s mask is

Everytime I see someone show off their mask, I'm reminded of pets who are forced to wear a muzzle.

 

[prag16]

There's a bigger picture here. It's the dynamic of control. If they had tried to mandate masks from day one there would have been a lot more pushback. But instead they scared the SHIT out of everybody first, prompting many of them to wear masks on their own accord as part of the process of moving the Overton Window. Clever I guess. But widespread masking, while maybe somewhat more 'normal' in certain Asian countries before this started, creates a very dystopian atmosphere. And it feeds into the fear, people fearing each other, and just fearing the air we breath in general. I also wonder about the children; we're probably grooming the next generation of self destructive gerrmaphobes as we speak.

They're also uncomfortable, make it harder to breath, and a high percentage of people aren't wearing them properly to begin with. There's no doubt that people are touching their faces more with them on than without. Anyone with asthma or any other chronic respiratory issues generally should not be wearing them at all, or at worst for more than a few minutes at a time. Ubiquitous mask wearing in the US started too late to claim that it is responsible for flattening the curve. Given the up to 15 day incubation period, the lockdowns possibly started too late to really attribute it to that either.

The idea that "new evidence" came up that proved mask wearing was not essential, rather than unnecessary is bs. This dramatic about face happened over a very short period of time. General population masking was never ever recommended for the flu, even in 2017-2018 when it killed nearly 80 thousand people in the US. Maybe if the government wasn't jerking us around constantly we could trust their experts more. Fauci and Birx didn't start wearing masks until weeks into this. GTFO of here, don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, okay? If we don't mask for flu we don't need to mask for this. Hell, many of the masks actually have warning labels on the packaging now stating that they do NOT protect against COVID-19. This whole thing just isn't as bad as advertised, period. And the idea of masks as a panacea with no downside is definitely not unanimous. (e.g. https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/)

As for Sweden, they have more deaths than some nordic countries, but without locking down they fared very well compared to countless other countries who did lock down. In the broader sense there's not very much evidence to suggest lockdowns were any consistent key to dramatically improving countries' situations. Sweden has had a maybe middle of the pack type of outcome. But they're one of the only ones who didn't completely destroy their economy to get there.

 

[prag16]

I wonder how effective Alyssa Milano’s mask is

Makes me think of this which I came across the other day:

 

[DragoonKain]

I'm not positive yet, but I believe my roommate and I may have the Covid-19 virus. We got the swab test last Monday and are still waiting on the results. If it is it, I'm thankful it's been a mild case.

I hope you all and your loved ones are well and STAY that way. Much love and praying for you. ❤

Hang in there Ailynn, and please keep everyone updated on how you're doing.

If you start to feel unwell, please seek medical attention, asap. We need you around here for the long haul!

 

[Jezbollah]

it really is amazing how the UK media and left are obsessed by Dominic Cummings. I'm no fan of the guy but it really does show how cheaply they want to score political points.

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

Another thing I learn about the lockdowns are celeb's are annoying.

 

[prag16]

Another thing I learn about the lockdowns are celeb's are annoying.

We're all in this together tho.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Another thing I learn about the lockdowns are celeb's are annoying.

They always have been, but their incessant virtue signalling and empty platitudes from the comfort of their palaces about how we all need to stay home during this pandemic have been infuriating.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

There's a bigger picture here. It's the dynamic of control. If they had tried to mandate masks from day one there would have been a lot more pushback. But instead they scared the SHIT out of everybody first, prompting many of them to wear masks on their own accord as part of the process of moving the Overton Window. Clever I guess. But widespread masking, while maybe somewhat more 'normal' in certain Asian countries before this started, creates a very dystopian atmosphere. And it feeds into the fear, people fearing each other, and just fearing the air we breath in general. I also wonder about the children; we're probably grooming the next generation of self destructive gerrmaphobes as we speak.

They're also uncomfortable, make it harder to breath, and a high percentage of people aren't wearing them properly to begin with. There's no doubt that people are touching their faces more with them on than without. Anyone with asthma or any other chronic respiratory issues generally should not be wearing them at all, or at worst for more than a few minutes at a time. Ubiquitous mask wearing in the US started too late to claim that it is responsible for flattening the curve. Given the up to 15 day incubation period, the lockdowns possibly started too late to really attribute it to that either.

The idea that "new evidence" came up that proved mask wearing was not essential, rather than unnecessary is bs. This dramatic about face happened over a very short period of time. General population masking was never ever recommended for the flu, even in 2017-2018 when it killed nearly 80 thousand people in the US. Maybe if the government wasn't jerking us around constantly we could trust their experts more. Fauci and Birx didn't start wearing masks until weeks into this. GTFO of here, don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, okay? If we don't mask for flu we don't need to mask for this. Hell, many of the masks actually have warning labels on the packaging now stating that they do NOT protect against COVID-19. This whole thing just isn't as bad as advertised, period. And the idea of masks as a panacea with no downside is definitely not unanimous. (e.g. https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/)

As for Sweden, they have more deaths than some nordic countries, but without locking down they fared very well compared to countless other countries who did lock down. In the broader sense there's not very much evidence to suggest lockdowns were any consistent key to dramatically improving countries' situations. Sweden has had a maybe middle of the pack type of outcome. But they're one of the only ones who didn't completely destroy their economy to get there.

There hasn't been new evidence. Back in February, most people in the west viewed masks as a protective item for the wearer. This is back when many still thought this thing was mainly spreading by being stuck to surfaces that came into contact with people's hands that later touched their faces, etc. That's why the focus was on protective N95 masks or even more advanced protective gear.

We've now learned that the spread is mostly occurring through the droplets that exit the body when people laugh, shout, sing, cough, sneeze, etc. With that knowledge, and with tests that show just how much a simple face covering can reduce the amount and distance droplets can travel, it is know very clear that masks *should* dramatically reduce spread of the virus, or at least the viral load. We have anecdotal evidence in Japan and South Korea, for example, that makes this theory rather compelling. Masks are not protecting the wearer, but rather protecting everyone around the wearer.

Now, I am against the government mandating that people wear anything, but I have no issue with private businesses requiring their customers, etc. to wear masks to enter stores. I do think it's the considerate thing to do when you're in a poorly ventilated and cramped indoor space.

 

[prag16]

There hasn't been new evidence. Back in February, most people in the west viewed masks as a protective item for the wearer. This is back when many still thought this thing was mainly spreading by being stuck to surfaces that came into contact with people's hands that later touched their faces, etc. That's why the focus was on protective N95 masks or even more advanced protective gear.

We've now learned that the spread is mostly occurring through the droplets that exit the body when people laugh, shout, sing, cough, sneeze, etc. With that knowledge, and with tests that show just how much a simple face covering can reduce the amount and distance droplets can travel, it is know very clear that masks *should* dramatically reduce spread of the virus, or at least the viral load. We have anecdotal evidence in Japan and South Korea, for example, that makes this theory rather compelling. Masks are not protecting the wearer, but rather protecting everyone around the wearer.

Now, I am against the government mandating that people wear anything, but I have no issue with private businesses requiring their customers, etc. to wear masks to enter stores. I do think it's the considerate thing to do when you're in a poorly ventilated and cramped indoor space.

There's also the claim though in the article I linked about exhaled virus not dispersing while wearing a mask, causing it to concentrate far more than it otherwise would have in the wearer's nasal passages increasing viral load and potentially entering olfactory nerves or the brain. It's not the only place I'd seen that discussed either. People wearing them while doing strenuous physical activity are out of their minds imo. We have seen indication viral load is significant in the case of this virus.

When they started mandating masks, there were no COVID specific studies indicating masks are a benefit; it was all based on influenza et al... which resulted in no widespread mask wearing for flu in the vast majority of the world. That mouse study linked above is actually the first COVID specific study I've seen. Interesting results which should get more exploration. But at the end of the day, this was mouse cages with cloth draped over them. If we never reached a point wiith the flu that evidence dictated widespread usage, I remain skeptical about COVID. (And don't tell me "flu has a vaccine"... yeah, it does, but efficacy is abysmal most years, by some measures as low as 9-10% some years; and I'll stop you before you say "well it makes it less severe"; I've never seen any proof of that and I don't know how you would even prove that if you tried; it's entirely speculative.)

 

[Deleted member 17706]

There's also the claim though in the article I linked about exhaled virus not dispersing while wearing a mask, causing it to concentrate far more than it otherwise would have in the wearer's nasal passages increasing viral load and potentially entering olfactory nerves or the brain. It's not the only place I'd seen that discussed either.

I saw this idea floated in that conspiracy documentary, but it seems strange to me that breath expelled from your own lungs could be harmful to you. Not saying it's impossible, but just seems intuitively wrong. I'd be interested in seeing any kind of research on this.

People wearing them while doing strenuous physical activity are out of their minds imo.

Agreed.

When they started mandating masks, there were no COVID specific studies indicating masks are a benefit; it was all based on influenza et al... which resulted in no widespread mask wearing for flu in the vast majority of the world. That mouse study linked above is actually the first COVID specific study I've seen. Interesting results which should get more exploration. But at the end of the day, this was mouse cages with cloth draped over them. If we never reached a point wiith the flu that evidence dictated widespread usage, I remain skeptical about COVID. (And don't tell me "flu has a vaccine"... yeah, it does, but efficacy is abysmal most years, by some measures as low as 9-10% some years; and I'll stop you before you say "well it makes it less severe"; I've never seen any proof of that and I don't know how you would even prove that if you tried; it's entirely speculative.)

It's not conclusive proof, but it's certainly compelling evidence. I used to live in Japan and it was common sense that you wear a mask in crowded locations when you're not feeling well (or just in general during the winter months) to try to prevent spread, so I'm used to the concept.

 

[prag16]

I saw this idea floated in that conspiracy documentary, but it seems strange to me that breath expelled from your own lungs could be harmful to you. Not saying it's impossible, but just seems intuitively wrong. I'd be interested in seeing any kind of research on this.

I too haven't seen actual research to back this up. To me it makes logical sense; exhaling is one of the many routes the body uses to dispose of toxins (mostly CO2 in this case.. but rebreathing higher levels of that isn't exactly great for you either; exhaled air contains at least around 100 times as much CO2 as what we breath in). Constantly recycling that to me seems intuitively possible. Though I see your side of it as well.

Regardless, for better or for worse, I imagine masks are here to stay for a while, probably years to a significant degree; some people maybe forever (at least during flu season). I will say that if my son's baseball and soccer camps require masks this summer throughout the outdoor physical activity, I will be withdrawing him from the programs, and making some nasty email/phone correspondence.

As for schools in the fall, I already see momentum building toward making even small children wear masks 7-8+ hours. This is unacceptable and will not go well.

EDIT: The citation in the article for the virus concentration claim gives this as a source; don't have time to chase it down now; headed out to the grocery store (sans mark; sorry guys): Perlman S et al. Spread of a neurotropic murine coronavirus into the CNS via the trigeminal and olfactory nerves. Virology 1989;170:556-560.

 

[hariseldon]

it really is amazing how the UK media and left are obsessed by Dominic Cummings. I'm no fan of the guy but it really does show how cheaply they want to score political points.

He’s the antichrist and wants us all dead don’t you know. Lefties actually ducking believe that too.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I will say that if my son's baseball and soccer camps require masks this summer throughout the outdoor physical activity, I will be withdrawing him from the programs, and making some nasty email/phone correspondence.

As for schools in the fall, I already see momentum building toward making even small children wear masks 7-8+ hours. This is unacceptable and will not go well.

Yeah, there's no way I would put my kid into sports/summer camp stuff if they made him wear a mask all day. It's just not worth it. Same with school. If they try to start up in fall again with all sorts of crazy restrictions like the CDC recently put out, I'll be looking into private schools that do not follow the guidelines or even homeschooling.

 

[Celcius]

I think wearing masks in public is going to be the new normal for the forseable future (at least until there's a cure or vaccine). People have to remember that it's not to protect you from us... it's to protect us from you (hopefully). I just hope there's not another major outbreak later this year...

 

[EviLore]

Tomorrow's NY Times front page:

 

[Rock And Roll]

I too haven't seen actual research to back this up. To me it makes logical sense; exhaling is one of the many routes the body uses to dispose of toxins (mostly CO2 in this case.. but rebreathing higher levels of that isn't exactly great for you either; exhaled air contains at least around 100 times as much CO2 as what we breath in). Constantly recycling that to me seems intuitively possible. Though I see your side of it as well.

Regardless, for better or for worse, I imagine masks are here to stay for a while, probably years to a significant degree; some people maybe forever (at least during flu season). I will say that if my son's baseball and soccer camps require masks this summer throughout the outdoor physical activity, I will be withdrawing him from the programs, and making some nasty email/phone correspondence.

As for schools in the fall, I already see momentum building toward making even small children wear masks 7-8+ hours. This is unacceptable and will not go well.

EDIT: The citation in the article for the virus concentration claim gives this as a source; don't have time to chase it down now; headed out to the grocery store (sans mark; sorry guys): Perlman S et al. Spread of a neurotropic murine coronavirus into the CNS via the trigeminal and olfactory nerves. Virology 1989;170:556-560.

The idea of making kids wear masks for sporting events is absolutely stupid and I would expect youth sports across the country to decline sharply if that's something they try to push. You're moving around and being physical, you need to be able to breath properly. Plus it's summer and it will be hot. How good are the masks if you sweat through them?

 

[pLow7]

There's a bigger picture here. It's the dynamic of control. If they had tried to mandate masks from day one there would have been a lot more pushback. But instead they scared the SHIT out of everybody first, prompting many of them to wear masks on their own accord as part of the process of moving the Overton Window. Clever I guess. But widespread masking, while maybe somewhat more 'normal' in certain Asian countries before this started, creates a very dystopian atmosphere. And it feeds into the fear, people fearing each other, and just fearing the air we breath in general. I also wonder about the children; we're probably grooming the next generation of self destructive gerrmaphobes as we speak.

They're also uncomfortable, make it harder to breath, and a high percentage of people aren't wearing them properly to begin with. There's no doubt that people are touching their faces more with them on than without. Anyone with asthma or any other chronic respiratory issues generally should not be wearing them at all, or at worst for more than a few minutes at a time. Ubiquitous mask wearing in the US started too late to claim that it is responsible for flattening the curve. Given the up to 15 day incubation period, the lockdowns possibly started too late to really attribute it to that either.

The idea that "new evidence" came up that proved mask wearing was not essential, rather than unnecessary is bs. This dramatic about face happened over a very short period of time. General population masking was never ever recommended for the flu, even in 2017-2018 when it killed nearly 80 thousand people in the US. Maybe if the government wasn't jerking us around constantly we could trust their experts more. Fauci and Birx didn't start wearing masks until weeks into this. GTFO of here, don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, okay? If we don't mask for flu we don't need to mask for this. Hell, many of the masks actually have warning labels on the packaging now stating that they do NOT protect against COVID-19. This whole thing just isn't as bad as advertised, period. And the idea of masks as a panacea with no downside is definitely not unanimous. (e.g. https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/)

As for Sweden, they have more deaths than some nordic countries, but without locking down they fared very well compared to countless other countries who did lock down. In the broader sense there's not very much evidence to suggest lockdowns were any consistent key to dramatically improving countries' situations. Sweden has had a maybe middle of the pack type of outcome. But they're one of the only ones who didn't completely destroy their economy to get there.

Bullshit, sweden's economy crumbled Like any other economy in the world. Maybe even more since they rely very much on Export.

Also nice how you discard the fact that basically every neighbor of sweden that locked down had far far far less deaths. Why? They are in the Top 10 Deaths per Capita, how Is that "going well"?

Of course masks do not protect you from getting the virus, noone Is saying that. But It protects Others If you have the virus. That's not "probable". It's a fact. And if you really want to Tell me, that wearing a mask for 15-20 minutes poses a threat..well, yeah.

 

[12Goblins]

That cough made my skin crawl

One day these buffoons will understand he's wearing the mask to protect them

 

[12Goblins]

Tomorrow's NY Times front page:

Looks a lot like names on a list though

 

[Dthomp]

That cough made my skin crawl

One day these buffoons will understand he's wearing the mask to protect them

They won't. I actually have family that lives in that city and while it's within a tiny distance of a larger college town they think they are some kind of impervious to the virus in their backwoods little town there. That city is literally just there for rural development loan people who can't get loans in the city. No real restaurants, and one run down hotel in the city, but at least 3-5 bars on the main street.

Grew up in MN, but everything in that state is a racial/political shit show now. So many there fight the decisions because the person who made them has a skin color they don't like, and people are oh so too mean to that poor hard working president doing all he can (From the golfcourse). I don't think I've lived somewhere before that is so backwards as the folks there now.

 

[Plague Doctor]

So Cuomo is saying with regards to packing the nursing homes with covid patients "he was just following orders" that somehow many other states didn't follow but he did because he was prudent until it shows it was not prudent after being dragged through the mud on it over the course of a week. Also does this mean that the Fed can mandate things again to the governors with regards to the pandemic? I am confused as I was told the Fed couldn't do that just a day or two ago. Soooooo which is it?

This would funny if it didn't cost lives that could have been saved. Cuomo literally placed the infected with the most vulnerable. That seems a wee bit more irresponsible to me than a hair dresser wanting to work but... here we are.

You hairdressers and gym owners will be the death of us all.

 

[ManaByte]

The idea of making kids wear masks for sporting events is absolutely stupid and I would expect youth sports across the country to decline sharply if that's something they try to push. You're moving around and being physical, you need to be able to breath properly. Plus it's summer and it will be hot. How good are the masks if you sweat through them?

But imagine the ratings and the hot takes if kids are dropping dead on the soccer field! Won't anyone think of the media?!?

 

[Mobile Suit Gooch]

Did Japan Just Beat the Virus Without Lockdowns or Mass Testing?

 

[prag16]

But imagine the ratings and the hot takes if kids are dropping dead on the soccer field! Won't anyone think of the media?!?

As long as they can pass off the deaths as "COVID linked" for fearmongering purposes, they'll be loving it.

 

[p_xavier]

A professor tested homemade masks, because he was tired of doctors saying that masks only help others and not yourself. Basically full protection with 2 layers and aerosols protection with 3.

 

[JORMBO]

Tomorrow's NY Times front page:

The sixth name on that list (the 27 year old) is a murder victim.

Case of man found dead in car off of I-380 in Cedar Rapids ruled a homicide, police say

The Cedar Rapids Police Department said the case of a man found dead in a crashed vehicle off I-380 is being investigated as a homicide.

www.kcrg.com

 

[mekes]

it really is amazing how the UK media and left are obsessed by Dominic Cummings. I'm no fan of the guy but it really does show how cheaply they want to score political points.

I agree. I saw the news and thought, assuming his story is true. How am I meant to be outraged when I’d have done the same thing? Surely most people would have. They’ve had him as the main story for the entire day, it just seemed a bit pointless from our media. I didn’t even care, there are thousands more important things going on in the UK right now. Bit fed up of being told that anybody needs the chopping block for one mistake. Johnson proves you can choose to ignore it and everybody moves on to the next thing with the next person, usually swiftly.

 

[JordanN]

Congratz, Canada now joins the "greater numbers than China" club.

Not even the power of blackface could stop the virus.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

i just spent all day helping my dad move. he had a U-Hall reserved that we picked up in Ellijay, then on to Blue Ridge to get furniture, then 3 other places along the way. basically we drove all over north Georgia today.

people were out and about in full force, and it was good to see. still saw a lot of masks but sometimes no. i think at this point it is obvious that the "experts" still don't know exactly what the fuck is going on. might as well live our lives. sitting in a house hiding in fear isn't the way to go through life. of course i still wear a mask and gloves when i go in a store. i have a cancer related blood disease so i take it v seriously. but im starting to take it less so.

i took an uber home tonight, the guy talked my ear off about it, lol. he was this black dude who said he thought one way about Trump, but now, he thinks another way. his daughter was in medical school and he was doing all this research on doctors and stuff. he was explaining how the masks might be damaging the population, how it means that people are now breathing in carbon dioxide, and far less oxygen than they used to. at the end of the ride he gave me the name of this guy Dr. Buttar. i have not watched this yet but here's this guy:



fwiw the dude brought up 5G at the very end, so make of that what you will. at any rate stay curious and don't believe the official line without doing some critical thinking first.

 

[JordanN]

But seriously, wtf are we suppose to do now with summer approaching?

Are we really going to keep businesses closed and tell everyone to stay indoors while the weather is 30 degrees Celsius?

Imagine people who don't have air conditioning? There's going to be riots...

 

[cryptoadam]

So Cuomo is saying with regards to packing the nursing homes with covid patients "he was just following orders" that somehow many other states didn't follow but he did because he was prudent until it shows it was not prudent after being dragged through the mud on it over the course of a week. Also does this mean that the Fed can mandate things again to the governors with regards to the pandemic? I am confused as I was told the Fed couldn't do that just a day or two ago. Soooooo which is it?

This would funny if it didn't cost lives that could have been saved. Cuomo literally placed the infected with the most vulnerable. That seems a wee bit more irresponsible to me than a hair dresser wanting to work but... here we are.

You hairdressers and gym owners will be the death of us all.

Hes using the tried and true strategy of blaming Trump. The left and media will buy it and carry water for him.

 

[diffusionx]

Hes using the tried and true strategy of blaming Trump. The left and media will buy it and carry water for him.

Honestly he doesn't even have to bother, the media was well on its way to giving him a free pass.

I turned on his presser today. It was fucking weird, he was rambling about the governor's mansion, FDR, and Teddy Roosevelt.

 

[Plague Doctor]

The sixth name on that list (the 27 year old) is a murder victim.

Case of man found dead in car off of I-380 in Cedar Rapids ruled a homicide, police say

The Cedar Rapids Police Department said the case of a man found dead in a crashed vehicle off I-380 is being investigated as a homicide.

www.kcrg.com

This is exactly why we need to continue lockdown for the next 8 years.

Covid is already evolving into the iron age and killing us in the streets with premeditation. The NYT is proving that.

All because you assholes wanted to support your families with jobs and commerce. Stop worshiping the economy.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

it seems strange to me that breath expelled from your own lungs could be harmful to you.

i mean, it's carbon dioxide. when we breathe normally, we exhale it. when we wear a mask, we just breathe it back in. it's not normal.

it's almost suffocation, in a way. you are getting less fresh air and that has to be doing something to your lungs, your circulatory system, your brain even. i don't have a car so i walk, but i don't wear a mask when i walk, cos i tried it and it made me dizzy.

 

[Stouffers]

i just spent all day helping my dad move. he had a U-Hall reserved that we picked up in Ellijay, then on to Blue Ridge to get furniture, then 3 other places along the way. basically we drove all over north Georgia today.

people were out and about in full force, and it was good to see. still saw a lot of masks but sometimes no. i think at this point it is obvious that the "experts" still don't know exactly what the fuck is going on. might as well live our lives. sitting in a house hiding in fear isn't the way to go through life. of course i still wear a mask and gloves when i go in a store. i have a cancer related blood disease so i take it v seriously. but im starting to take it less so.

i took an uber home tonight, the guy talked my ear off about it, lol. he was this black dude who said he thought one way about Trump, but now, he thinks another way. his daughter was in medical school and he was doing all this research on doctors and stuff. he was explaining how the masks might be damaging the population, how it means that people are now breathing in carbon dioxide, and far less oxygen than they used to. at the end of the ride he gave me the name of this guy Dr. Buttar. i have not watched this yet but here's this guy:



fwiw the dude brought up 5G at the very end, so make of that what you will. at any rate stay curious and don't believe the official line without doing some critical thinking first.

Where in GA do you live!

 

[Kazza]

it really is amazing how the UK media and left are obsessed by Dominic Cummings. I'm no fan of the guy but it really does show how cheaply they want to score political points.

Absolutely zero fucks given by DC:





They media hate him because the know they can't control him. I don't think he can last long, even if he does survive this. He is treading on too many toes: the media, the civil service, cabinet ministers...

 

[Kazza]

This epidemic really seems to have brought out the authoritarian tendencies is some people. Luckily, the punk spirit is still alive and well:




Edit:

It appears that she is more concerned with them getting sued than the virus. Still, I admire these guys willingness to just get straight back up and try again after failing (painfully) again and again. There should be some kind of law that you can't sue if you injure yourself doing this kind of biking/skateboarding:




Did anyone here ever do this kind of crazy shit in their younger days?

 

[ManaByte]

Tomorrow's NY Times front page:

You know EXACTLY why the New York Times did this.

 

[daveonezero]

Everytime I see someone show off their mask, I 'm reminded of pets who are forced to wear a muzzle.

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except this time is psychological.

 

[thequestion]

This epidemic really seems to have brought out the authoritarian tendencies is some people. Luckily, the punk spirit is still alive and well:




Edit:

It appears that she is more concerned with them getting sued than the virus. Still, I admire these guys willingness to just get straight back up and try again after failing (painfully) again and again. There should be some kind of law that you can't sue if you injure yourself doing this kind of biking/skateboarding:




Did anyone here ever do this kind of crazy shit in their younger days?

That Karen in the cart would make a great South Park character.

 

[Kagey K]

I can’t even be bothered any more. The Tulsa Skateland clip on Live PD tonight shows why it hits certain communities extra hard.

If you aren’t going to look after yourself the rest of the country can’t do it for you.

A disease is not racist and will stomp all over ppl stupid enough to think it is.