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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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Smiles and Cries
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Why toilet paper?
cheaper way to blow your nose than that soft fancy stuff that comes in a box
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God Enel
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rykomatsu
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Amazon Fresh?
rykomatsu
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Everyone was raiding tp and water at my Costco. It's a mix of corona panickers and normies panicking that the corona panickers will buy everything out (we fall in the latter group)
Smiles and Cries
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Eh no updates, is everyone at BNO sick?
Woo-Fu
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I believe it is impossible to be ready for a real outbreak. China builds hospitals in a couple weeks and couldn't keep up. There just isn't enough infrastructure to deal with that many people sick at one time.
As far as it not being as scary as it sounds I agree, for me it is even scarier after a lifetime of asthma, bronchitis, and repeated bouts with pneumonia.
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All Hail C-Webb
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Numbers are going to pop as soon as they start testing more. I expect that there are outbreaks all over the US as of this moment. I think we're going to soon learn that the incubation period is far longer than we thought.
Luckily there seem to be many mild cases for younger people, but potential for reinfection or reactivation could change all that.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
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Grinchy
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Just tell her that some forum goers have declared that it's just the flu and she'll be fine.
bRacing
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Fortunately she’s a lot smarter than forum posters blaming “lefties and the media”. But she’s not all that worried at the moment because 80 percent of the people with it respond to treatment. Twenty percent not responding is concerning. It is also concerning to them how quickly this blew up last night and today.
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Foamy
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What the hell? Did they tend to him unprotected before they found out it was Coronavirus?
bRacing
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There was no reason to suspect any of them to have had contact with someone who might have had it. But with an incubation period of a month, who knows? It’s crazy how so many people went from zero to pneumonia today. Not gonna lie, I’m worried. But she isn’t.
Dthomp
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I feel like medical professionals probably commonly have to think positive like that. I can't imagine it being mentally good for them to live panicking before it gets bad. The incubation period is what scares me the most right now. We went from a few days to a couple weeks, to now at least a month. Whos to say it even leaves your system? This shit is scary to me.
mango drank
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Captain Zyrain
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Going to be an interesting week next week.
Still slotted to fly out of LAX on Thursday but really not looking forward to it. I think we have a layover in Seattle too.
Is it bad form to cancel on a funeral because you don't want to plan your own?
Still slotted to fly out of LAX on Thursday but really not looking forward to it. I think we have a layover in Seattle too.
Is it bad form to cancel on a funeral because you don't want to plan your own?
Dthomp
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You’ve done so much leg work keeping tabs on this, you should know better then going anywhere near WA right now, or LAX for that matter
bitbydeath
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Sorry to hear mate. We’ll probably all know someone personally impacted sooner than later.
Captain Zyrain
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I know. I just keep hoping some good news will pop up or something. My Grandma died, and I'd really like to make it to the funeral but man, shits getting crazy.
And my relatives up that way are also all old, so not sure I want to bring airport germs/virus/etc with me. My cousin just got over fighting cancer too.. Ugh. I guess there is always FaceTime.
We had planned to make a week of it too, mini vacation. I'm probably going to bring it down to the wire but damn I don't want to be in a plane right now.
Korea update, still going up, at least they stayed under 4K today.
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E-Cat
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Source?
Sakura
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Ok then, let's look at the Diamond Princess. Virtually everyone on the ship has been tested, so there isn't any worry of a bunch of mild unreported cases skewing the numbers.
We currently have a case fatality rate of 1%. We still have about 35 people in serious condition, so that number could go up quite a bit depending on how things pan out, but for the sake of argument let's assume they all pull through so we still have a 1% CFR.
1% is still 20 times higher than the fatality rate for the seasonal flu, going by the CDC estimates you cited. If 32 million people were infected, that would be 320,000 dead, compared to the 18,000 from the flu. That's not even considering the hospitalization. Currently 5% of the infected passengers are still in serious condition. If you had 32 million people infected, that would mean at least 1.6 million hospitalizations, in a serious/critical condition. Hospitals would be overloaded, and you'd have even more deaths as a result.
Yet you think it is less dangerous than the seasonal flu. Do you have any logical basis for thinking this? Of course the absolute numbers for the flu are higher. The whole point is, we don't want the coronavirus to reach those numbers.
Naru
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The main problem, if it gets worse, will be the reported 15-20% rate of infected that need (intensive) care. Meaning they can not stay at home and need to go to a hospital to get treated. This will overwhelm any health care system, especially in the west. Like the WHO said, if you go into a hospital in China and ask how many respirators they have they say 40 or 50. When you ask in the west they have maybe 5 or 6.
Spukc
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Enjoy hell
Smiles and Cries
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Smiles and Cries
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Even some news media will get tired of reporting numbers as news beyond a point. This will no longer be news anymore so not sure if we would even learn that it hit a mil anywhere.
Bullet Club
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Needs more dancing and weird anime stuff.
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Do you guys plan to get any supplies to avoid multiple shopping trips?
I know whenever there is a snow storm on the horizon here, people go nuts and clean out the grocery store, only to have a little snow fall the next day. The response is far too exaggerated.
I was at costco the other day on a Friday night, it was packed, usually it's not too bad.
I was also at a chinese buffet yesterday and usually it's quite busy, but yesterday we were basically the only people there.
This Coronavirus may be bad but the mass hysteria will make it worse for businesses and other facilities (eg. schools). Not saying it shouldn't be taken into account, but certainly the response will be far more aggressive than is practical.
I kind of feel like this weekend will be the last "normal" one before insanity hits in the US.
I know whenever there is a snow storm on the horizon here, people go nuts and clean out the grocery store, only to have a little snow fall the next day. The response is far too exaggerated.
I was at costco the other day on a Friday night, it was packed, usually it's not too bad.
I was also at a chinese buffet yesterday and usually it's quite busy, but yesterday we were basically the only people there.
This Coronavirus may be bad but the mass hysteria will make it worse for businesses and other facilities (eg. schools). Not saying it shouldn't be taken into account, but certainly the response will be far more aggressive than is practical.
I kind of feel like this weekend will be the last "normal" one before insanity hits in the US.
The Scrivener
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This thread is my current go-to site for updates. Keep up the good work Gaffers, and sorry to hear about all of you who are affected right now by this. I'm started to get worried. Does being generally unfit count as cardiovascular disease? Also, my son has diabetes type 1, so that sucks. Stay safe GAF.
GHG
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The only way you will know for sure is if you have been to a doctor recently and had a health checkup.
All you can do beyond that is start being active through regular exercise (4-5 days a week) and it will reduce your risk of getting struck down with this along with reduce your risk for a whole host of other health issues that can come up from living a sedentary lifestyle.
Eat well, exercise and drink plenty of water. Those are things we should all try to do regardless, outbreak or no outbreak.
Smiles and Cries
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Greece confirms 3 new cases
Greece has confirmed three new coronavirus cases, bringing the total number of those infected to seven.
There are usually 35,000 runners in the Tokyo Marathon. Today there were 300
The Tokyo Marathon is usually one of Japan's biggest sporting events of the year, attracting up to 35,000 participants and 10,000 volunteers.
South Korea's death toll reaches 18, with 3,736 cases
South Korea's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced 586 new coronavirus cases on Sunday, bringing the country’s total to 3,736.
for some reason BNO newsdesk has stopped updating or tweeting on time so will use other sources for updates until they catch up
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Smiles and Cries
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This thing might have long impact in changing social culture
www.cnn.com
French official advises against kissing due to coronavirus fears
A French official has advised against a long-time French tradition -- cheek kissing -- over coronavirus fears.
Smiles and Cries
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one of my favorite channels on travel in Japan
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lyan
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If you are still in middle age I don't think that directly counts, but this is probably a good chance to start shaping up.
Best make sure to keep good hygiene though for your son's sake, your hands / belongings / clothes / shoes have the highest chance to be contaminated so best wash them (and yourself before touching anything) or leave them somewhere that won't contact other things at your home.
Smiles and Cries
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Pope cancels more events due to illness
Pope Francis said on Sunday that a cold will prevent him from participating in a week-long spiritual retreat outside of Rome, scheduled to begin Sunday afternoon.
Mihos
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No, even if you lived in Wuhan, the odds of getting this is like 0.4%... losing your shit in the Midwest seems a little silly. CNN needs the ratings though
betrayal
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That is so true. It just can't be repeated often enough. COVID-19 is not the pest. Due to the media reports, which need every click to make money, the whole situation is exaggerated about 100 times.
There could just as well be headlines such as: "Every day there are significantly more cases of people healed than newly infected people" or "Number of newly infected people in the worst affected areas is stabilizing" and many others, but you just don't earn money with that.
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bitbydeath
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Because they’re welded inside their own homes and can’t get out? If infected were free to move around in Wuhan then chances of you getting it would be 100%.
Smiles and Cries
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Ornlu
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There's truth to that; sensationalism always sells. In a perfect world, the story would be "Can we contain this so that there isn't a new virus that spreads through the world? We don't need a deadlier flu."
lyan
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The Diamond Princess is an example of what the rate would be like when someone in a neighborhood caught it, so 705 out of 3701.
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It’s not really comparable to that at all...both in terms of the close quarters and containment measures.
lyan
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It is not that different to the many Asians who live in packed aparatments, the Amoy Gardens from Hong Kong is another example back then from the SARS outbreak (which current data seem to suggest it being less contagious than the coronavirus) where it infected 107 people in 1 building and 321 total in the estate.
betrayal
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The way you both think and argue bears no relation to reality. It is like saying that if no one puts out a fire in a city, all the inhabitants of the city will burn and die. It's just not a realistic scenario, becasue you will always try to avoid that.
R0 (the basic reproduction number) is four times lower on land than it was on the Diamond Princess. There are many viruses with a higher infection rate and also some influenza viruses are at the level of COVID-19 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number).
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ManaByte
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Are they really not going to tell us?Pope cancels more events due to illness
Pope Francis said on Sunday that a cold will prevent him from participating in a week-long spiritual retreat outside of Rome, scheduled to begin Sunday afternoon.
They won't because if the Pope dies that's when the riots start.
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